Talk:List of career achievements by Roger Federer

Merger proposal
I suggest that this article is merged with the records article. What do you think?--HJensen, talk 17:31, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


 * It's a definite idea, since thie article is mostly taking up space on the server. The two are similar enough that this could be merged wholly successfully. -- tennis man  16:08, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree, one article, called Awards and Records held by Roger Federer, or similar --Ged UK (talk) 15:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I think it's better the way they are now, since they are totally different subjects, we are dealing with a list and a non-list articles here, both of which are considerably long so merging them will just create an oversized disorganized article, while this way is more specific and neat, I say it stays the way it is. Habibko (talk) 18:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I decided to merge the two into a standard format: the one found at Category:Career achievements of sportspeople. More work is certainly required though.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

This page is in desperate need of an overhaul. The "achievements" are a mix of personal and actual tennis records making it almost impossible for a reading to discern if something posted here is an actual tennis record. I have created a complete list of Tennis Records held by Roger Federer, please email me at tedmayer@hotmail.com if you ever decide to fix this list.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wodz (talk • contribs) 19:15, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Manual numbering
Is there a good reason for using  instead of   for numbered lists? If not, I'd like to make the lists use. — LOL T/C 02:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Record?
Federer has now been ranked in the top 2 in the world continuously for 6 years. Is that a record? Tomaths (talk) 00:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Formatting
I would like to see a section of all his tourney wins and finals, orgonized by date, color coded by signifigance, like you would get for most other tennis players. This format is pretty messy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.153.121 (talk) 21:06, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Winning streak
Sorry, there is a mistake, Lendl also has 6 winning steaks of 20 matches or more, 1 in 81, 1 in 82, 2 in 85, 1 in 86 and 1 in 90. He also has 7 winning streaks of 19 matches or more including a 19 winning streak in 89. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.96.227.90 (talk) 10:07, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Redundant record in Singles Championships?
Number 1 says he has won 16 Grand Slam titles, which is a valid record, but then number 3 says he is the first male player to win more than 14 grand slams. This isn't a record, it's merely a result of number 1. All it's doing is artificially inflating his achievements (which isn't even necessary, to be honest).--CombustionMan1 (talk) 09:48, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Non-tennis achievements by Federer
Shouldn't we include Federer's "popularity/humanitarian-award" achievements? Technically it is unclear whether these are "career" achievements, but I suspect to be regarded the best ever, just raw statistical greatness is never enough. He won the Fans' Favorite Award a record nine consecutive times (2003–2011) and the Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award (voted for by the players) a record seven times (2004–2009, 2011). He won the Arthur Ashe Humanitarian of the Year Award in 2006. In 2011, he was voted the second most trusted and respected person in the world, second only to Nelson Mandela. Ajoykt (talk) 20:23, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Redundancy/frivolous
who wrote this article? There are about over 50 items that have been repeated thrice in the article.. and there are so many frivolous records : being 5th seventh, tenth! massive rewrite needed. simply unacceptable at the moment to be even considered a wiki article. had to delete and organize. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.78.177.132 (talk) 16:22, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You removed many items that appeared once so I was forced to revert your edits. Can you list some repeated items? If you think items don't belong here, please discuss it here or explain it in more detail. It doesn't help to remove many items in a single edit without explanation. Gap9551 (talk) 17:35, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * There are too many examples: but just to show you one: Fed's 5 titles at US open has been repeated with same sentences and some with different words at about 5 different sections,

same goes for wimbledon, same goes for being number 1. i mean exactly SAME records not even different at all. check n see it yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.78.177.132 (talk) 19:19, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * There indeed are several mentions of Federer winning 5 US Open titles, but they are part of different records. Can you give examples of identical records?
 * Some records that you removed were mentioned only once, such as "Federer's 17 Grand Slams in 10 years (2003–12) is an all time men's record. Sampras won 14 Grand Slams in the span of 13 years (1990–2002)." and "Federer is the only player to win each of the four Grand Slam championship finals in straight sets.". There are many more examples.
 * I propose the following: I restore the content, and then you can remove records one at a time with explanation, not dozens in one edit. That way your edits can more easily be verified by other editors. Please discuss and explain your actions. Most of the content you removed has been in the article for a long time, so it is better to first reach consensus here on the talk page before removing large parts of the article. Gap9551 (talk) 20:12, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I removed or merged a couple of records in some cases where you were right. However, I'm still puzzled why you removed records such as "Federer has won an open era record 12 grasscourt titles." or "Federer joined Nadal in 2009 as the only male players to simultaneously hold Grand Slam titles on clay, grass, and hard courts" which only appear once, as well as many others. Gap9551 (talk) 20:52, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * OK I will try to remove each record at a time, but remember this is totally stupidity. whoever put these frivolous records probably had lot of time to waste. (also, simultaneous: fed has never done this, a frivolous and blatant lie. fed has only won one on clay and that year he didnt win on hard, so nadal is the only one with that record. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.78.177.132 (talk) 04:46, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * This is part of the problem, you don't read this record carefully. Nowhere does that record state that Federer won on clay and hard in the same year, just that he held slams on those surface (and grass) at the same time. Gap9551 (talk) 10:54, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Actually! I am done doing this madness. there are infinite lies, frivolous records and childs play in all of the sections. there is no way this can be skimmed one by one. i dont see how editors let fans to make a clown out of this article. even federer's shitting and pissing is being mentioned.. what a disgrace! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.78.177.132 (talk) 04:50, 11 September 2012 (UTC) For instance, : "In winning two of these titles (Hamburg 2007 & Madrid 2009), Federer prevented Nadal from winning all three clay court ATP World Tour Masters 1000 events in the same year"... how is this a record achievement? doesnt anyone see that these have been done countless times by other players to other players!" I am out of here!!! TOTAL DISGRACE OF AN ARTICLE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.78.177.132 (talk) 04:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * There is a problem with your edits. You claim the article contains lies but in fact it is you who remove achievements with false claim. Many of the reasons you gave in your edit summaries are simply wrong. Example: By winning the 2007 Australian Open, Federer won his sixth Grand Slam title in his last seven attempts, an open era men's record. You removed this claiming that unproven and false record. there are others who have done that like sampras, connors among others. Sampras and Connors never won 6 out of 7 consecutive Slams. (Budge won 6 in a row but that was pre-Open Era). I had no choice than to revert your edits. It is very misleading to give false edit summaries, please stop doing that. Gap9551 (talk) 11:15, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You dont seem to understand why I removed the edit. if 6 out of 7 is a record then what is 13 out of 15. Sampras holds that. So federer's record is a lie.. and obvious lie. I dont think you have researched enough about sampras records. Oh and I forgot to tell you just like you told me: if you are to revert back edits, please do so by explaining each of them at a time. you cant revert everything back in bulk just like you asked!108.78.177.132 (talk) 19:36, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Your explanations were false, so not reverting them would be the wrong thing to do. Gap9551 (talk) 20:21, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It is also crystal clear to notice, only federer has these so called fake achievements page about his shitting n even pissing, when players like Nadal Sampras who had way more better records dont have it? Its because this page was trolled by fans of federer over and over and they added almost every non existent things as records- a total lie to wikipedia viewers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.78.177.132 (talk) 19:48, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You are free to add records to the articles of those players. Being unhappy with other articles is not a valid reason to vandalize this article. By the way, please use mature language here. Gap9551 (talk) 20:21, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * already gave u an example. simple example that the article is a total lie: Federer has never won simultaneously on clay grass and hard. still that point is as a record in the article, there are so many others like it. the only time fed ever won clay was on 2009 when he lost the US open. so it was not simultaneous! this article is a fan puffery. not that much of wiki is not.. idiotic waste of time!108.78.177.132 (talk) 04:33, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * He held the French Open in 2009 (clay), Wimbledon 2009 (grass) and Australian Open 2010 (hard) simultaneously. Him not winning the US Open in 2009 is therefore irrelevant, so why do you bring that up as an argument? Your claim is demonstrably false as pointed out before. Please read other editor's comments. Gap9551 (talk) 10:45, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * He L O S T LOST the immediate hard court US open 2009. so how is that simultaneous in any way? When one player wins all three surfaced back to back that is simultaneous! Either you are naive or pretending to be ignorant! Irrelevant? in what way? relevant in every way simultaneous means!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.71.196.50 (talk) 03:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Utilizing false edit summaries like 108.78.177.132 has done over and over again in this article is considered vandalism and should be treated as such.Fracktheocre (talk) 13:53, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Reference full of lies and unverified stats
many of the so called achievements make their reference to tennis warehouse- an online fan chat system. and the records are being added here tons after tons based on it. neither it is verified nor it is reliable. a fan chat room! c'mon. this article is full of lies.108.78.177.132 (talk) 04:58, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You credibility has been damaged, because you have been unable to point out a `lie' so far, and are not open to constructive discussion and arguments. Feel free to improve citations, though. Gap9551 (talk) 10:48, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Winning the first n grand slam finals
I'm 99% sure Federer was the first person in history to win his first 4 grand slam final appearances (and 5, 6, and 7 too). My source is 10:16 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge17unv-XrI&feature=player_detailpage#t=616s. Can anyone confirm? If so it should be added to the article. 94.208.4.229 (talk) 22:34, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, good that you weren't 100% sure. A few other players won their first 7 before Federer did. See #8 in Grand Slam records -- Singles championships. Gap9551 (talk) 11:44, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Whoops, I'm blind as a bat. Thanks for setting me straight. 86.85.234.3 (talk) 20:39, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Female records
Female records should not be part of this section. The men are far superior to the women and there is a reason they have separate competitions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.31.48.6 (talk) 19:49, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Re edited Federer's achivements page
I have redone his page by adding his records in tables to make it more structured but there is still a lot of information which is unnecessary and needs to be removed. Can someone remove it or will it stay there as many of the listed records are not actually records. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zain786909 (talk • contribs) 20:42, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

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All time greatest on grass
This article states that Federer is "widely viewed" as the greatest grass court player of all time, comparing his Wimbledon results to other players from tennis history's Wimbledon results. However, I will point out that a number of well-known men have actually won more grand slam titles on grass than Federer. Roy Emerson (10), Bill Tilden (10), Rod Laver (9) all collected more grand slam titles on grass than Federer. Others, like Fred Perry, have matched Federer's number as well. Tvx1 12:52, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
 * There appears to be no source and you are right. I toned it down. Gap9551 (talk) 16:40, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

15 consecutive years of Grand Slam semi-finals
Federer has now extended his run of reaching at least one Grand Slam semi-final in consecutive years to 15 years. Is this worth noting here, or is this too specific a record? Carcharoth (talk) 15:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Sounds worth it to me. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:05, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * OK. So how does that sort of thing get sourced? Carcharoth (talk) 20:39, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It's probably a record, but I don't know where to find a reliable source. Gap9551 (talk) 18:41, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Noting here that this 'record' got extended to 16 years at the 2018 Australian Open (this was noted in the article here and tweaked here), and 17 years at the 2019 French Open (updated here). Carcharoth (talk) 13:32, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * And now 18 years. Carcharoth (talk) 12:56, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

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