Talk:List of cathedrals in Israel

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Mentoz86 (talk) 13:56, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

List of cathedrals in Israel and the Palestinian Territories → List of cathedrals in Israel – The Palestinian Territories are all in Israel so it makes no sense to say in Israel and the Palestinian Territories. It would be like saying list of cathedrals in Oklahoma and in the Indian Territories in Oklahoma. Apteva (talk) 21:58, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

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 * Oppose Bad analogy. No sovereign nations recognize Oklahoma's Indians as having sole legal control over their territories. And regardless of legal statuses, WP:COMMONNAME suggests there's Israel and there's Palestine, just as there's China and there's Taiwan. I wouldn't say I'm going to China if I were only visiting Taiwan, and I wouldn't say I'm going to Israel if I were only visiting the Gaza Strip. On an unrelated note, I support a move to List of cathedrals in Israel and the Palestinian territories per WP:NCCAPS, and I would also support a split. --BDD (talk) 19:36, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose Israel hasn't annexed the territories yet. -- 70.24.247.127 (talk) 12:27, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose While perhaps the nomination is technically true I think that the move would be unhelpful for the reasons mentioned by BDD. I think readers and editors would be confused about whether cathedrals in the Palestinian territories are within the scope of an article titled cathedrals in Israel. It's not so overwhelmingly redundant that I find the current title problematic.  AgnosticAphid  talk 19:50, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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Split
Propose to split into List of cathedrals in Israel and List of cathedrals in Palestine.GreyShark (dibra) 15:33, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Support, though better make it List of cathedrals in the Palestinian territories, since it will be covering the area we discuss at Palestinian territories, not at Palestine. This will result in a couple of pretty small lists, but it makes sense to treat Israeli and Palestinian topics separately. --BDD (talk) 16:25, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Can we close this the same way we did with Talk:Islam in Israel? (List of cathedrals in Israel and List of cathedrals in Palestine)GreyShark (dibra) 18:03, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure. --BDD (talk) 18:17, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Excellent - completing the split.GreyShark (dibra) 22:17, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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