Talk:List of characters in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

Missing characters?
This page seems to be missing quite a few characters, including Booster, Knife Guy, and Grate Guy. I'd add them myself, but it's been too long since I've played.--209.243.31.233 02:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

also it is not even mentioned at all, but in one of mario's dreams, in nimbus land, it is revealed that toad is infact a boo, and not a toad. when mario wakes, he finds toad, and toad tries to explain but leaves, giving mario some of the red stuff that makes him invincible. this seems important and it could be true for all mario games. Lrr 10:38 am, March 3 2007

That was a dream Mario had. It doesn't mean anything except it was some comic relief. Megamanfanx7 01:35, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Geno
Was Geno just sold? The article says that he belongs to Capcom. Is this a mistake? -EDEXE
 * Seems to be a mistake or perhaps vandalism. Either way its been changed back to Square Enix-- T B  C [[Image:Confused-tpvgames.gif|18px|]] ???   ???   ??? 07:40, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The credits of Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga state he is trademark Square Co.. Can Someone provide a citation of that from the videogame? That would be a lot better than the website. Taric25 07:55, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Redirect/merge.
I suggest that this article be redirected and/or merged into a Characters of Super Mario RPG page. Comments? Support? Objections? - A Link to the Past (talk) 10:29, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Object, the article is notable and long enough to merit its own article-- T B  C [[Image:Confused-tpvgames.gif|18px|]] ???   ???   ??? 07:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * It is long, but the character is in only one game (and another as a cameo). Not nearly notable enough for his own article. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Object, Geno is a major character in a very substantial game and thus is worthy of an individual page. There are countless examples of characters have existed only in one publication that have their own page on Wikipedia.  In addition, Nintendo has a reputation for bringing back long neglected characters, so there is a reasonable chance that Geno will appear in future Nintendo games.

Nintendo buys rights?
Can somebody verify this? I think it's kind of sketchy.

It was added by a vandal from the SSBB board on GameFaqs
 * It's from Gamefaqs with no proff. It's clearly fake.Sukecchi 02:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I think this rumor was started because Sakurai (probably accidently) listed Geno as a first party character. -- Lord Crayak

Geno Whirl on all bosses?
Okay, I heard somewhere on GameFAQs that Geno Whirl actually works on ALL bosses, not just Exor, but the timing is next to impossible to get. Here's a link to the topic: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=588739&topic=28460069

Seventh post. Not touching the article 'til someone can confirm this. Blue Mirage 11:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Does Geno = Cyborg 004?
I was thinking about that... they both have weapons at nearly every joint in their bodies... It could be a possible reference? --BPM 23:21, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

This should probably be merged
The article is pretty small. It's pretty much the right size for a section on a list. Any objections to moving it to an appropriate character list(no clue as of which one yet)? Nemu 20:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Nintendo buys rights?
Can somebody verify this? I think it's kind of sketchy.
 * In a nutshell, Square owns Mallow. Paper Mario was originally titled Super Mario RPG 2. However, because of Square's involvement in the original game, direct sequels were not legally  possible without Square's permission and/or involvement, so the title was changed, although the development of the game mechanic itself went for the most part unaltered. Geno was featured in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, albeit in doll form. This is the only instance of a character originating from Super Mario RPG in another game. Square was credited at the end for owning the rights to Geno. Taric25 21:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Spoilers in category
Does the "fictional princes" category count as a spoiler?
 * I don't believe categories count as spoilers. Taric25 21:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Appropriate Sources
Many game articles list walkthroughs as sources. Before removing a source, please discuss it on the talk page. Taric25 21:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

This should probably be merged
The article is pretty small. It's pretty much the right size for a section on a list. Any objections to moving it to an appropriate character list(no clue as of which one yet)? Nemu 20:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Boshi
Boshi is form superMarioRPG a SNES game. The article says that wayoshi (in japan) appears from wario and waluigi, but waluigi first appeared in mario tennis game (N64). This doesn't have sense.
 * Fixed. -- A Link to the Past 16:50, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

Is he a good guy Yoshi (like the other Yoshis) or a bad guy counterpart (like Mario=Wario, Luigi=Walugi)?
 * He's not a good guy, but he's not exactly a villain. He's just a bully, really.
 * Also, according to The Mushroom Kingdom's translation, he was called Washi in the Japanese version, so Boshi sort-of is like Yoshi's Wario. Agent CH 17:39, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't notice it already said "Wayoshi" in the article. Which one is it actually, though? Washi or Wayoshi? Agent CH 17:42, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

This page now redirects correctly. Taric25 05:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

VG Assessment
This is in regards to the request at the VG Assessment page. I'm rating this list as Start-class, Low-importance. Here are a few tips to improve it!

- The writing in this is really bad, and is the biggest reason why I didn't rate it as B-class. Main Characters is a series of 3-sentence paragraphs, and the rest of the article is nothing but choppy 1-sentence paras. This may be a list article, but it still needs good writing.

- More references! The 12 you have are a great start, but the whole list needs to be referenced like that.

- Speaking of references, the only time you need to include a quote in a ref is when you're quoting from the game. Things like Nintendo Power don't need the entire statement there, just the magazine and page number.

- Pictures. Now, don't go crazy with it, not every single character needs a picture. But right now, nothing below Princess Peach has a picture except for a hidden boss, which imo doesn't need a picture and has a pretty bad one as it is. I'd say get pictures for characters that have their own articles, as a good start.

Normally I'd tell you to look at video game GAs and FAs, but as this is a list i can get more specific. Check out the Featured List List of Metal Gear Solid characters, the Featured Article Characters of Final Fantasy VIII, and the Good Articles Characters in Devil May Cry and Characters of Final Fantasy XII --PresN 16:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! Your suggestions are a great help! Taric25 04:14, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

A lot of first person references
The Wikipedia manual of style is very clear on this, first person references, especially in video game descriptions, are not acceptable. We can't be writing video game descriptions with all these "you"s in them, but I understand that they were probably written early on, and thus, not much priority is given to articles like this because the majority of attention here is focused on political articles, and current events. Nonetheless, the style should be fixed. I'm doing this at the moment, but I don't think I have the time to do all of it. If anyone could help, Wikipedia as a whole, and I, would greatly appreciated it.The Kensington Blonde T C ''' 18:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * For the record, a first-person reference is either "I" or "we," not "you." "You" is a second-person reference. But neither of them are good for an encyclopedia entry, so on that point I agree. ^_^; Sylocat 01:35, 24 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sylocat (talk • contribs)

Pronunciation?
Where are the kana spellings of the character names in the Japanese version? Knowing whether the first mora of Geno's name matches ゲ (ge), ジェ (je), or ジ (ji) would clear up a long-standing bar bet on several web sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Damian Yerrick (talk • contribs) 13:21, 1 July 2007
 * I'll get to work on it right away. Taric25 23:25, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

All the Japanese sites on the subject spell it with ジ (ji). 75.153.231.20 11:23, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Redirect
TTN, I skimmed Talk:List of Mario series enemies, and I saw many users complaing about you merging and redirecting. I have decided that I would like to ask you to please leave this and other Super Mario RPG articles. You'll find there are many other articles you can edit on Wikipedia. Please spend your time on those articles, and leave us alone. Thank you. Taric25 23:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * This article violates so many criteria I doubt it could violate any more. It should be speedily redirected. Judgesurreal777 21:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Because it violates some of the Wikipedia criteria does not mean it must be redirected. All of the criteria can be fixed and there are articles like it across Wikipedia.  We must try our best to fix it before redirecting. --Mystalic 15:18, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Square Enix characters
A bunch of the characters are owned by Square Enix, right? Probably a good idea to keep the page in that category. SouperAwesome 10:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The Square Co. characters category would be much more correct. Kariteh 16:35, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

First reference
I'm a bit confused by reference 1, never mind the oddness that a statement such as Mario being the protagonist would need a source... "# ^ Square Co., Ltd. (now Square Enix Co., Ltd.). Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars. Nintendo. SNES, Virtual Console. Level/area: Marrymore (in English). 1996-05-13. “Toadstool: I know I'm in good hands when you're around, Mario! Here's a kiss for my hero!This game may be released on Wii's Virtual Console...I would buy it! ピカチュウ：最後の切りふだ キャラクター 【ボルテッカー】 ボルテッカーとは! ピカチュウが持つ“最後の切りふだ”である!! というとそのまんまですが. 発動に“でんきだま”は要りませんが、“スマッシュボール”が必要です. ゲーム画面 ボルテッカー始動! 光の球と化すピカチュウ.  ゲーム画面 すると、一定時間光球を操作出来るのだ! 追え追え!! ゲーム画面空中もスルリスルリと. こりゃぁヤバイ.  空も飛べるけど、びゅんびゅん振り回されるように動くので 制御不能にならないように注意. 空中で解除されると、えらいことになりますよ.  ゲーム画面 あっ……. ちょっとマズいかも. ”"

Who exactly is saying "This game may be released on Wii's Virtual Console...I would buy it!"? And what does the Japanese text have to do with anything? It's talking about Pikachu's Final Smash move in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and as far as I can tell, that's unrelated to anything on this page. 75.153.231.20 11:18, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It appears to have been vandalism, and I've removed it. Taric25 04:33, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

My edit
Also, in regard to my revert, the discussion at the SMRPG Talk Page was clearly still active. Please get consensus before making an edit such as a redirect. Kuro ♪ 23:03, 30 September 2008 (UTC)