Talk:List of chess variants/Archive 3

Ultima
What about Ultima? Cant find it on wikipedia at all, but I know it has been mentioned before. Removed maybe? http://www.chessvariants.org/other.dir/ultima.html


 * It is listed as "Baroque chess" here. Andreas Kaufmann 16:51, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I have removed some POV material placed here by an IP
I have removed some POV material placed here by an IP. Here is the information I removed, which was inteposed among other info:

according to the most recent research this [the fact that India is where Chess came from]is not likely so. (See origins of chess and Xiangqi.) [...] Xiangqi - of ancient China, which the most modern research to date (see http://www.yutopian.com/chinesechess/history.html ) surprisingly reveals to have been played centuries before Chaturanga (i.e. by Meng Changjun, some time between 770 and 975 years prior to Chaturanga's popularly recognized date of inception)! See http://www.yutopian.com/chinesechess/stories/meng.html for supporting information.

Basically, this stuff belongs in origins of chess, as a minority viewpoint, and not here. Samboy 18:56, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

History behind parachute chess
When was 'parachute chess' first memorialized in print? Parachuting chess pieces onto a board, or electing to make a move with a piece already landed, is one of the earliest versions of chess where players tried to escape the 'book' and base their play purely on natural ability. Sure, I remember seeing it in tournament practice (between rounds in the skittle room) in 1975, but I don't recall anybody describing it in a magazine or anything. This predates Transcendental Chess and Fischer Random Chess by a half dozen years or so. It was around the same year when people started arguing about the benefits of abbreviated algebraic notation as opposed to expanded algebraic notation, and comparing these to the benefits of descriptive notation. If you were too young to be privy to these debates, it's a shame.


 * There are a number of chess variant, which match to what you described, for example:
 * * Unachess
 * * Placement chess
 * Do you remember if there were any restrictions on where a piece can be parachuted? Andreas Kaufmann 10:44, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

I think the usual way of playing the game was with a chess clock, and capturing didn't start until all the pieces were on the board, but moving the pieces that were already on the board (where 1 piece counts as 1 move, in lieu of a parachute drop) was permitted. It's really not that original of a concept, it probably arose independently in different places at different times, almost always from people trying to escape from over analyzed openings in the book.