Talk:List of controversial elections

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 * This list was transferred from []. It needs a lot of work as most of the items are not referenced.  Sparkie82 ( t • c )  06:50, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't like the article's name, but couldn't think of anything else, so feel free to rename, make redirects, whatever.  Sparkie82 ( t • c )  07:07, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I added some sources.90.244.92.227 (talk) 02:32, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * More added.90.244.92.227 (talk) 12:30, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * None of the sources pertaining to the 2005 United Kingdom Parliamentary Election are useful. Two are inactive, one is behind a paywall, and the last two do not relate to this election (one is about a 2004 local election, and one is a generic article about the possibility of voter fraud). I cannot find any evidence of suspicion that this election satisfies the criteria. I suggest that more sources are located (if possible) or this entry is deleted.

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Purpose?
What's the purpose of this article? What is a "controversial election" anyways? If you'd add all elections which led to some controvery, you could add almost every election. "Why did so many people vote for them?", "With whom should we coalise now, nobody wants to?", etc. Controvery is always subjective. Or is this article supposed to add only election with fraud allegations? Then there are many elections that shouldn't be on this list.

For example the US presidential election in 2016, why is it on this list? Because Trump is controversial (whatever this exactly means)? The results themselves weren't controversial. But shouldn't every US election be added to this article since there's always some controvery around presidential elections in the US?

I just don't see what this article is about. It doesn't even have an introduction, something like "this article lists all elections with..." or something like that. It's just: "Controversial". Nobody exactly knows what this is.--31.16.65.202 (talk) 03:37, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Would like to add what is "notable"? Almost all elections have some fraud, but where to draw the line, if 1 person impersonates another voter is that notable, if 1 parliamentary constituency out of 600 is fraudulent is that notable? how many ballots stuffing does election need to become notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.103.202 (talk) 18:14, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

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Removing section Examples of electoral fraud
Can we remove this section as everything above this section constitutes examples of electoral fraud ?Huhiop (talk) 16:00, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 2 November 2020

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Not seeing much policy-based discussion on either sides but either way, I don't see a consensus to move.  qedk ( t  愛  c ) 09:29, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

List of controversial elections → List of electoral manipulation controversies – As stated above, the article does not have a clear inclusion criteria or purpose. Most elections are "controversial" by their very nature and often hotly contested or polarized. However, this list seems to include only elections where fraud, voter suppression, candidate disqualification, and/or other manipulations are alleged. "Electoral manipulation controversies" is preferred as the list does not include blatant sham elections and does include elections which irregularities are disputed. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  05:40, 2 November 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 02:45, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

oppose The chosen term, electoral manipulation controversies, just doesn't feel natural. Since it specifies a strict subset of the current lemma, controversial elections, the latter may be slightly too general, but it isn't wrong. People probably understand and discount the expected adversarial nature of elections in general. Additional comment: I fear this page will just list every single US elections going forward. It's impossible to establish meaningful criteria for inclusion, and the supposed usefulness is vague. Are we maybe better off just deleting it? --Matthias Winkelmann (talk) 01:16, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Oppose it's not a really clear title not to mention it's awkward english. blindlynx (talk) 18:07, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Oppose Websters def of controversial: giving rise or likely to give rise to public disagreement. I'd say this list is aptly named and suggest creating a new Wiki article of of "electoral manipulation controversies" or moving the subsection "Examples of election Fraud". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.198.97.65 (talk) 00:01, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


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Oceania
Australia and New Zealand have had many controversial elections at both the State and Federal level, as have other countries in the region. I think it would be justified adding an "Oceania" section. Colliric (talk) 08:26, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

What is 'controversial'?
I am not sure if this article really has a purpose. A lot of elections have been called 'controversial', the term itself can also be very vague. I think this needs a clearer scope (only listing elections where there was documented voter fraud, or define how the word controversial is supposed to be applied). The lead only repeats what the title says. Rousillon (talk) 14:16, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

2022 Brazilian election
The 2022 election was considered by many people as an voter fraud, so I putted it in here. 170.81.219.131 (talk) 15:06, 3 November 2022 (UTC)