Talk:List of countries by Internet connection speeds/Archive 1

NetIndex(Ookla Readings) End of 2014
Net Index, which is a far more accurate measure of the internet speed has it's internet speeds as specified below as of December 2014(1st January 2015) World average 21.8 🇸🇬 singapore || 105.56 🇭🇰 hong kong || 96.23 🇯🇵 japan || 69.11 🇷🇴 romania || 57.91 🇸🇪 sweden || 53.39 undefined || 46.9 🇨🇭 switzerland || 45.18 🇳🇱 netherlands || 45.16 🇱🇹 lithuania || 45.10 🇹🇼 taiwan || 43.32

---User:Carbonoatom (talk) 22:18, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

How is akamai coverage a metric for internet speed by country?
Akamai report measures akamai coverage, has nothin to do with internet speed.Akamai coverage is far from ideal.It has little to no presence in Eastern Europe for example The article is superficial.First it should define what is internet speed.It's the link capacity in my oppinion.If somebody has a gigabit link but his access to an Akamai server is bounced trough 3 other countries and 2 other networks ...who cares what speed Akamai recorded?Services are highly localised, mirrored, not necessarily on Akamai, could be anybody.A better metric for internet speeds is netindex ... is a dedicated platform to measure internet speeds around the world.Google\Youtube also has a global presence ... highly regionalised and evenly spread. They should have some measurements somewhere — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandru877 (talk • contribs) 02:31, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


 * The original editor simply copied proprietary data from an Internet website without critique or apparently even without understanding the problems with these data sets. Indeed the article should be deleted. Kbrose (talk) 03:24, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * As per WP:Consensus, we already had a heated debate on this and near unanimous consensus was achieved. See YJAX (talk) 11:01, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Your claims as to WP:V and WP:OR are bogus and false, as was also remarked upon in your referenced debate. In the end this sort of 'consensus' does not support your hypotheses as the fewest of the commenting editors actually read or properly understood the problems with this data. Akamai marketing material cannot be considered a reliable source, it is what it is, a marketing pamphlet that has not been scrutinized in secondary sources, a pillar of WP:V. The rules further state: Do not plagiarize or breach copyright when using sources. Summarize source material in your own words as much as possible. This clearly means that using other words than the source is a mandate, and not WP:OR. If you actually understood the data in this report, you probably would have decided that it should not be presented on WP. But it is a favorite sport by many to simply and blindly copy-paste data into WP in the name of knowledge. Kbrose (talk) 15:51, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Firstly, you're way too emotional here. Chill. "Bogus and false" - Where is the evidence? Such controversial claims need direct proof. I have never proposed a hypothesis of any sort. Your claim that it is "marketing material" is false since it is an annual report on the state of the internet. Marketing pamphlets are used to promote a product - This is an academic report on the State of the Internet. Two very different things. This is a summary of the source material and therefore does not violate copyright - It only lists the top 20 countries and a few other countries as published in the source. This is made explicitly clear in the article and the way it is done with any other list of countries at Wikipedia. YJAX (talk) 17:03, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * IMO: YJAX is using wikipedia for advertising for an unknown, not notable company (Akamai). The listing is completely unreliable, and the text reads like an ad. If no-one else objects, Akamai (or whatever) info should be removed from the article. NetIndex is not user generated. It is the most reliable and used around the word. Because it is very popular! Users OBVIOUSLY contribute to the ranking, because it is where the actual data comes from, but they do NOT generate it. YJAX behavior is disruptive, he even falsely claimed the NetIndex data is user generated and he is constantly rv other people in order to keep this advert.--Pedro (talk) 15:29, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think you have read what I have written here before so I will post it again. It doesn't matter whether it is very popular or not. It doesn't matter whether Akamai is unknown or not (which it is not by the way, see how the world's leading press and media always quote Akamai in their press releases and never Netindex), but the content must not be user-generated. It is a Wikipedia rule. Netindex's data is generated from the users themselves, not measured by the organization themselves, which is why it violates WP:V. It is time to take down this user-generated list as it is obvious by now that it makes an outright violation of WP:V. Identifying_reliable_sources makes it explicitly clear that it violates WP:V to use "any website whose content is largely user-generated, including the Internet Movie Database (IMDB), CBDB.com, content farms, collaboratively created websites such as wikis, and so forth, with the exception of material on such sites that is labeled as originating from credentialed members of the sites' editorial staff, rather than users." YJAX (talk) 08:05, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * And actually, Akamai is a very significant company, "responsible for serving between 15 and 30 percent of all web traffic" according to its own Wikipedia page. But please, can we at least resolve this? There has been significant edit warring and page ownership going on here, and I think I'm going to have to get full protection in here too. ViperSnake151   Talk  15:02, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The problem lies with these people violating WP:V who refuse to discuss in a civil manner other than making threats and accusations, claiming to know an "admin" that has told them NetIndex is superior somehow. I'm open to any new sources but we cannot allow something like NetIndex which sources 100% of its data from users themselves. They're not filtered or organized by NetIndex and clearly there is no way to verify the authenticity of these user generated data. It's like quoting Wikipedia as your source. It is not a major research think tank like Akamai quoted by major secondary sources and the global media. But the single problem with NetIndex is that it's user-generated data - When a Wikipedia policy puts it outright to be forbidden, there's no need for a discussion for including a forbidden material. YJAX (talk) 04:12, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Here are my thoughts. Firstly, I'm inclined to agree that NetIndex is not a reliable source. The data relies solely/majorly on speed tests run by individual users, which means that the pool of data is going to be skewed towards more experienced computer users; also, from personal experience, slow/unreliable connections can't always complete the speed tests on speedtest.net. I also find some of the numbers to be highly dubious - average speed of 30 Mbits in the UK? Seriously? Ofcom say that it is over 10 Mbits less than that, and frankly you'd need to be in a city for that kind of speed. However... what actually makes Akamai such a definitive source for the data, which is something that hasn't been established here? I would imagine the answer is quite simple; it seems to be regularly cited as the source for many reliable source's news stories, such as . Even back in 2010, the BBC cited Akamai for their data. Now, I'm not sure that this article's current title is a good idea; I think it would be better to reflect in the title that it is an Akamai list, particularly as the data is quite different to that found by some nation-wide regulators (like Ofcom above). But I'm really not seeing any well-known reliable sources citing anyone other than Akamai for the data, when talking about an arbitrary global ranking. I'm certainly not seeing anyone cite NetIndex. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 06:13, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Persistent vandalism, ignorance of WP:BRD, WP:Consensus, WP:V and WP:OR
Firstly, by moving this page's stable title to a controversial title with no consensus, User:Kbrose is violating WP:BRD and playing games to overrun normal Wikipedia procedures. Secondly, User:KBrose is ignoring a near unamious consensus by multiple users to leave this article as it is - See. Thirdly, User:Kbrose is ignoring the source's official wordings for this list, which is explicitly and consistently called "connection speed" on the source - See. Instead, he is inventing the words "akamai documents", which is to be found nowhere in the source, therefore violating both WP:V and WP:OR. YJAX (talk) 16:48, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

netindex
list according to netindex, which gatters internet speeds accross the globe according to user tests. as of September 2014
 * 1.Hong Kong 94.71 Mbps
 * 2.Singapore 76.87 Mbps
 * 3.Romania 56.79 Mbps
 * 4.South Korea 53.62 Mbps
 * 5.Lithuania 49.99 Mbps
 * 6.Sweden 47.94 Mbps
 * 7.Macau 45.9
 * 8.Switzerland 45.31 Mbps
 * 9.Netherlands 43.55 Mbps
 * 10.Republic of Moldova 42.76 Mbps

---Pedro (talk) 13:18, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I think it is time to take down this user-generated list as it is obvious by now that it makes an outright violation of WP:V. Identifying_reliable_sources makes it explicitly clear that it violates WP:V to use "any website whose content is largely user-generated, including the Internet Movie Database (IMDB), CBDB.com, content farms, collaboratively created websites such as wikis, and so forth, with the exception of material on such sites that is labeled as originating from credentialed members of the sites' editorial staff, rather than users." YJAX (talk) 13:17, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Akamai 2014 rankings UK listed at 330 Mbps
Where exactly does this figure come from? because it's a lot higher than the next lowest figure (23.6 Mbps in South Korea) and i know that UK ISP's do not routinly offer that speed at all. The highest speed i can have at home is around 150 Mbps (i know my first hand experience isn't really a source but the 330 figure is double what i get at home, and i have never seen that speed offered by any company)

Could someone please double check to make sure this table is correct, because it seems quie a bit off — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.82.91.233 (talk) 00:54, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * It is just vandalism, if you see the article, the average speed for the UK is 9.9 mbps. In Portugal speeds up to 120mbps are common too, but Ive seen some offers with 300 mbps. I've 60mbps. --Pedro (talk) 02:21, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've added a list with more reliable data as it is from okkla servers, which are located worldwide, and not akamai, which due to obvious reasons, its data is not reliable. but this list excludes mobile. Anyway you can add the countries you like, but only if it is from this month. You can also create pretty tables using this data. The data is 100% correct and available in NetIndex, including the TOP10. akamai thing seems like a publicity stunt. --Pedro (talk) 16:36, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

According to the Net Index, which is way more accurate than the Akamai Readings Here it is as follows SINGAPORE 96.23 Mbps HONG KONG 69.11 Mbps JAPAN 57.91 Mbps ROMANIA 53.39 Mbps SWEDEN 46.96 Mbps MACAU 45.18 Mbps SWITZERLAND 45.16 Mbps NETHERLANDS 45.10 Mbps LITHUANIA 43.32 Mbps TAIWAN 43.32

Duplicate record
In the second list Switzerland is mentioned twice. This is obviously a mistake however I don't know how to fix that Freopen (talk) 12:14, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Same results should be same position
When two or more countries have the same value, these should share the same position in the ranking. The second table is almost right, with the exception of Ireland/ Switzerland. The first table has quite a few cases where each country has been ascribed a separate position in the ranking - Finland/ Ireland; Denmark/ US (should be inverted too - alphabetical); Israel/ Taiwan (should be inverted too - alphabetical); Hungary/ Poland; Italy/ Thailand (should be inverted too - alphabetical); etc etc. Regards, Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 10:52, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 20 February 2015
Dear editors, Here are my suggestions: 1) There are doubts that using only Akamai's data means completely correct picture. More sources should be presented, apart of Akamai. E.g. http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/

2) Kindly note in the Akamai's report, these notes: A) "3.2 Global Average Peak Connection Speeds The average peak connection speed metric represents an average of the maximum measured connection speeds across all of the unique IP addresses seen by Akamai for a particular geography and is more representative of Internet connection capacity. The average is used to mitigate the impact of unrepresentative maximum measured connection speeds"

Therefore I suggest to the editors to add also the table 14 (from 3.2 Global Average Peak Connection Speeds).

B) Latest data from Akamai is Q3/2014: http://www.akamai.com/dl/akamai/akamai-soti-q314.pdf -> Kindly update the table in wikipedia to reflect this.

Maryhit (talk) 11:48, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Sorry, but edit requests need to have consensus before admins are allowed to enact them, and given that no-one has responded, and that the request hasn't been open for all that long, I'm closing this as not done for now. Please leave a few more days for discussion, and if a consensus develops, then please open the request again. Also, there was some concern above that netindex.com uses user-generated data. Please note that if this is true, then we can't use it even if a consensus to do so develops here, as using user-generated content for references is against the verifiability policy, and a local consensus can't override Wikipedia policy. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 13:46, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Protection
Do editors feel that full protection is needed for this article? Shall we try semi-protection instead? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:39, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * PLease review the entire history of this article. if you  seriously  feel  that  unprotection  is requird. please go  the the appropriate noticeboard at  RFPP. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:07, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I say we try semi-protection, full move protection, and monitoring. Lengthy full protection can work on pages where people are committed to debating the content, but I'm not sure this applies here. And semi-protection hasn't been tried at all here yet. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 13:37, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I've lowered to semi. If problems persist we can bump it back up, but a whole year on full seems excessive. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:22, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Okay... I have done a lot of research on this thing now.... And would like a debate on this matter(hope it gets resolved as fast as possible
Akamai Speed of the Internet Reports are deemed inaccurate due to the very fact that it does not have servers located all over the globe and the master servers or main servers are only located in USA. Whereas, for Ookla, they depend on hosts which are situated at and in various places in the country as their speed test servers. Hence, in spite of the fact that the Net Index is based off crowd-sourced data, for areas concerning 'Internet Speed Tests' it seems to me and many others off the internet whom I have questioned that the best way to gauge the average speed of the internet is via crowd-sourced data and one which has it's servers located close to you. Another reason is that for Akamai, it only measures your internet if you have an application or a program on your computer that connects to their servers for retrieving data. Therefore, most people may not have their programs on their computers, which leads to the fact that Akamai's State of the Internet does not show the actual state of the internet globally. Hence, I feel that the Net-Index data should be considered and must be kept in the list as it is a more effiecient and accurate source of data. Carbonoatom (talk) 02:37, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the Wikipedia rules are quite strict on this. WP:SPS says, "Self-published media, such as books, patents, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, personal or group blogs (as distinguished from newsblogs, above), Internet forum postings, and tweets, are largely not acceptable as sources." The mechanism of data publication might be slightly different in Net Index's case, but at its root, it is still publishing data generated by users, and so falls into this category. We could use data published by Net Index if it was republished by a reliable source, e.g. a meta-study in an academic journal discussing Internet speed by country, but unless that happens I'm afraid that we can't use it. If you disagree then you're welcome to try and get more opinions at the reliable sources noticeboard, but I suspect that you might receive the same answer there as well. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 23:34, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Despite this, and if this is the case, then even the akamai results should not be taken into consideration since they are self-published and if we do that then, there will be no reliable source for end users to know where their country lies in the internet speed race. According to the rules of wikipedia,it is stated: "Self-published media, such as books, patents, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, personal or group blogs (as distinguished from newsblogs, above), Internet forum postings, and tweets, are largely not acceptable as sources." However, I would like to draw your attention to this " largely not acceptable as sources ". Therefore, it is possible to contest this and argue that the Net Index is a reliable source of gathering data. Also, on the other hand, it is very hard to prove that what comes from Akamai is reliable as well since, it is a self published report with various software engineers who oppose the way the "State of the Internet" is carried out by Akamai leading to inccorect results. One major factor why Akamai results are incorrect is as I had mentioned, they do not have servers globally and in Every country, therefore as compared to NetIndex, it is inferior in this way. The packets of data would have to pass through multiple servers to land up all the way to Akamai's servers. An example is a person who lives in say, Thailand. The nearest server for him may be located in China but, it would have to pass through various other server to reach the main server. --Carbonoatom (talk) 13:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You're trying to prove the wrong thing. You need to prove that Net Index passes the reliable sourcing guidelines, not that Akamai doesn't pass the reliable sourcing guidelines. What you think of the accuracy and comprehensiveness of Akamai's or Net Index's data doesn't actually matter with respect to Wikipedia rules. What matters is whether the data was published by a respectable publisher with a reputation for fact-checking. If the data was published by such a publisher then we can include it; if not, we can't. It's pretty simple. A number of other editors have also cast doubts on the reliability of Net Index above, so it looks like the consensus is not to include Net Index for now. If you wish to challenge this, the best place to do so is the reliable sources noticeboard, as there are many editors there with an expertise in sourcing that like to comment on these kinds of issues. If the consensus there is that Net Index is reliable, I would accept it going in the article, but otherwise I think that both Wikipedia rules and the consensus above point towards not including it. Also, if Net Index is found to be not reliable for the purposes of this article, and you still don't think Akamai is reliable either, then the correct thing to do would be to nominate this article for deletion again, as then there would be no reliable sources with which we could write it. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 13:43, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2015
Estonia not listed because its faster than korea?

I find this is propaganda to promote korea.

http://www.netindex.com/download/2,19/Estonia/ proof.

89.235.228.155 (talk) 13:36, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  21:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 May 2015
Latvia belongs on the list in the position 7. with average internet speeds at the q4 2014 of 13.0 mbit/s.

In 2013 Latvia belongs in position 8. with average internet speeds at the q4 2013 of 10.4 mbit/s.

Gustavam (talk) 10:01, 28 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done (talk to) TheOtherGaelan('s contributions) 18:37, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

Please change no.39 - malaysia to 7.6 instead of 4.1 because there is proof on netindex.com and I live in malaysia and there is no way that the average internet speed is as low as 4.1.

Bryanr23121 (talk) 10:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Stickee (talk) 00:29, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2015
This is really out dated, please do it again.

5.15.249.17 (talk) 20:47, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 00:33, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

The map is broken
The map has nothing to do with the ranking, also it has no legend. Either it should be generated anew, or removed altogether. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.79.233.227 (talk) 13:15, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2016
poo in a babys bottle with cream freeeeeeech on top

101.181.5.84 (talk) 14:02, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The request is not specific or intelligible. Kbrose (talk) 14:31, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Revert vandalism edit by 2001:8003:6251:9800:C03B:138B:F366:1ECD
There's a vandalism edit made on 10 Apr 2016 by 2001:8003:6251:9800:C03B:138B:F366:1ECD that should be reverted. The figures they have provided for Australia do not match the Akamai Q3 Report (correct data for Australia is found on pages 32 - 34 of the PDF). The numbers were correct in the version by Gillam on 27 March 2016. The correct line should read:


 * style="text-align: left" | 🇦🇺 australia || 7.8 || 41.9 || 72% || 18% || 7.40%

SyneRyder (talk) 19:07, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Done. Kbrose (talk) 21:44, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2016
This list of countries by Internet connection speed lists the average data transfer rates for Internet access by end-users as published in the report State of the Internet by Akamai Technologies. It represents data for documents stored on Akamai networks.

Semi-protected edit request on 6 August 2016
sdfds — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.250.134.112 (talk) 18:30, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

2017 (Quarter 1) AKAMAI Report Released
https://www.akamai.com/fr/fr/multimedia/documents/state-of-the-internet/q1-2017-state-of-the-internet-connectivity-report.pdf Please update this page or change its protection status. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.173.68.206 (talk) 12:54, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2018
Sanjevarvinth (talk) 12:15, 22 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 16:00, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

There is a more inclusive and far more recent version of this data
M-Lab's and Cable.co.uk's data here includes 200 countries as opposed to Akamai's far shorter list, and the data is far more recent. Recommend updating the article to reflect the new data, which can be downloaded in full from Cable.co.uk, who compiled it:

https://www.cable.co.uk/broadband/speed/worldwide-speed-league/

This research has been reported all over the globe from the BBC to The Guardian, Zdnet, Quartz, the World Economic Forum and around 1,500 other news outlets: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44778017 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44921764 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45018515 https://t.cj.sina.com.cn/articles/view/6533972889/185748399001009fk6 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5918649/Britains-broadband-speeds-poor-35th-world.html https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/10/uk-slips-to-35th-in-global-table-of-broadband-speeds http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5940749/Australia-worse-internet-Madagascar-Moldova.html http://www.sohu.com/a/240828715_100030976 https://www.msn.com/fr-fr/actualite/technologie-digital/a-madagascar-linternet-haut-d%C3%A9bit-est-plus-rapide-quen-france/ar-AAAfrRF https://www.msn.com/en-gb/finance/other/uk-falls-four-places-in-global-broadband-speed-league-table/ar-AAzQW3g 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 * While there are 200 countries listed in the Cable data, a good number of them have a very small sample size (<1000). This is probably why the Akamai data lists fewer - it only lists the ones meeting a given sample size. Lcmortensen (mailbox) 11:25, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Sure, but the sample sizes are representative of proportional usage by population or indeed small size of population. We should ask ourselves: Should Guadeloupe, for example, be excluded because of its small population and limited uptake? I believe an international league table showing average broadband speeds is inadequate when it excludes 2/3 of the world's countries since it does not represent the less developed world where speeds are low and distribution is sparse. Having a rough idea of the speeds experienced in those countries is vastly superior to having no idea.

Akamai's data should be re-titled: Average broadband speeds in the developed world.

And of course, my point that Akamai's data it now rather out of date by comparison is also valid I feel. Cable and M-Lab's data set is also the most widely covered and accepted from a publishing point of view globally.

At the very least, Cable and M-Lab's set – which differs a great deal from Akamai's should be reflected in this page, if not instead of, then at least alongside Akamai's numbers. There is no single measure of average broadband speed around the world, but the page as it is currently purports to offer Akamai's data as the de facto, true results. 80.3.62.179 (talk) 08:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)


 * "Akamai's data should be re-titled: Average broadband speeds in the developed world." I don't think you can call Nigeria a developed country...
 * The set can be included alongside the existing Akamai data, but it will take a while to clean up and add them. Lcmortensen (mailbox) 11:17, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Very fair. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.3.62.179 (talk) 08:37, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Akamai Q1 2017 average internet speeds
India is mentioned twice (1st and 89th place), South Korea (28.6 Mbps) was 1st but was replaced with India which was still 89th and the rank numbers are wrong (a lot of numbers are skipped e.g. it goes from 132nd to 143rd to 144th to 148th). Hong Kong is also mentioned twice, once at 4th place, and once at 28th place.

Stormo364 (talk) 01:44, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

On average is a pretty low bar..
This list is one of the results you get when you search for the countries with the "fastest internet" speeds. It is also refereed to in multiple places.

Statistics by various independent commercial or non commercial entities..

One looks for "fastest" on gets "average"

https://www.fastmetrics.com/internet-connection-speed-by-country.php https://www.swedishnomad.com/fastest-internet-in-the-world/ https://www.atlasandboots.com/remote-work/countries-with-the-fastest-internet-in-the-world/ https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/internet-speeds-by-country https://www.pandasecurity.com/mediacenter/panda-security/countries-with-the-fastest-internet/

Is this really the information people are after... I would say no. I would much rather think they are looking what the fastest commercially available internet connection is per country. How readily available it actually is, which technology it uses and what the price is. Wanting to live in a country that has fast internet, looking to move somewhere, taking this aspect into your decisions , an "average" doesn't really help..

All in all, this list has it's place. In my opinion, and hence this comment this list should be accompanied by a list of countries where actual 10/40/100 Gbit connections are available, what the price is, and what the conditions are. Regards. 213.219.146.245 (talk) 04:16, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Akamai / Speedtest
What was the intention behind this edit? The edit summary states that you are removing speedtest, but instead you left speedtest, which was untouched, and restored 2017 Akamai data? Greenman (talk) 11:28, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Removing Spams
Hello EdilorPH,

According to Spam I found your links were a direct link and special text to Speedtest.net. I have changed links to speedtest.net page in Wikipedia.

You have used a bold font for the Philippines text! why? Are you living in this country?

I will change the spam text in this article If you think I did a mistake reply me on talk page.

Majidjalilian123 (talk) 17:15, 30 March 2021 (UTC)