Talk:List of crossings of the Cuyahoga River

Can't go further
According to the last coord listed at, this is as far as the river goes. If it goes farther, I can't trace it based on the imagery at Google Maps. Yahoo is useful to a point, but without both of them, I can't trust what I'm seeing. And the Google Maps data at that area is clearly very old and low rez. - Denimadept (talk) 04:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: 102 crossings of one sort or another to date. - Denimadept (talk) 05:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Entries
VerruckteDan, what's your position on the non-bridge entries I've placed in List of crossings of the Cuyahoga River? I included them because they seemed relevant to me at the time, mainly to illustrate just how BUSY that river is. - Denimadept (talk) 22:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I would lean towards removing entries that are not bridges, tunnels or dams. Things like power lines, and sewer pipes are not notable and I don't think they really add to the article.  VerruckteDan (talk) 00:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I added (RM) River Miles (need to merge more River Miles information from tables in the Cuyahoga River article and references); National Bridge ID # (for the federal/state-funded highway/road bridges); and updated: crossings, carries, location, and built with some additional information. I broke apart the divided interstate highway bridges which are really separate independent structures (I-480, I-271, I-80) with distinct National Bridge IDs for each span, but I do not know which ID goes with which span.  There are a few Bridge IDs which I was not able to locate.  I have some more information on which railroad lines are associated with which bridges, but it is going to take some time to digest/update (I mostly can do it as/when I go through the current Class III short-line railroads in the Cuyahoga Valley).  With regard to which line items to include, in my personal view, someone needs to look at the "consumers" of such a list.  The point of such a list is either:

In addition to bridges, For the above uses: artificial dams are fairly significant; the (3) Ohio EPA references in the Cuyahoga River article have a pretty good list of the Cuyahoga River dams, referenced by their "River Mile". I will try to add them soon. Whether to include cables/lines and pipes depends on the eventual uses for such a list. I do not see an issue if someone wants to include them, and I can help identify what some of them are. LeheckaG (talk) 01:07, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * For the few people navigating (canoeing/kayaking) the waters (or hiking alongside them), to be aware of "navigational" landmarks and hazards to navigation (both overhead and possibly hidden under the water's surface.
 * For people trying to cross over the watershed, to be aware of alternative routes.
 * For emergency responders, environmental/highway/watershed planners, and researchers, a somewhat concise list of crossings for them to use as they see fit.
 * Power lines, sewer pipes and water pipes are not likely to be notable and should not be included in this list. I have been working from List of crossings of the Schuylkill River to add articles on each bridge, dam, and tunnel, starting with those in Philadelphia, so I have learned a lot about how to obtain information about bridges.  Some bridges are NRHP listed, and some have good information in books about various railroads. Some of the bridges have signs with historical information, or plates with information when the bridges were dedicated. My best wishes to Ohio editors with a river with many crossings, and very few entries in this list. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:30, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * has 14 bridges shown for the Cuyahoga River, and there might be more on the bridgehunter.com site without the waterway being mentioned.--DThomsen8 (talk) 00:35, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

ruin/closed/removed
I'd like to explain my latest edit. When I first created this article, I included listings named "ruin", as I saw them in Google Maps, but had no name for them. Y'all have mostly fixed that problem. However, a bridge which is a ruin has not formally been removed/demolished. Also, a bridge can be closed without having been removed, perhaps for refurbishment or pending removal. I just wanted to clarify. If possible, the removal/closing year should be added as well, such as (removed, 2014) for the Innerloop Bridge, if that's correct. I've changed the format a bit but I still have a dearth of data. I hope y'all can fix that. - Denimadept (talk) 21:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Also, I'd like to mention that I originally modeled this list on List of crossings of the Connecticut River. I've created or converted (List of crossings of the Danube) several such lists based on that. - Denimadept (talk) 21:42, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

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