Talk:List of current NHL captains and alternate captains/Archive 1

Criteria for long term & short term 'interim' captains
If a players is wearing his team's (C) for a few games, because the captain is out of the lineup for a short time (few games), the 'interim captain' should not be listed at this article (example for this season- Chris Phillips in Ottawa & Chris Pronger in Anaheim, during Alfredsson's & S.Niedermayer's absences respectively). However, if an 'interim captain' serves a long tenure (example: Robietaille of LA in 1992-93 for Gretzky; Mogilny of Buf in 1993-94 for LaFontaine & Lapointe of Chicago in 2005-06 for Aucoin). Then an 'interima captain' would be listed as X player, in place of injured Y (captain) player (Example: Chicago 2005-06 was Martin Lapointe; in place of injured Adrian Aucoin). GoodDay 19:24, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * In this sense, I believe we should list whoever gets the 3rd "A" on the Flyers as Pronger is out for the season! Austin19 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:43, 16 December 2011 (UTC).
 * We'll have to see what the Flyers official website does. That's why we've got the Maple Leafs defenceman Liles wearing an 'A', the Leafs offical website shows him with an 'A'. GoodDay (talk) 14:39, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Moved Page
At first, I was going to revert the additions of alternate captains to the page. But, I've found the addition helpful to the article & more informative. This is why I've 'moved the page' instead. GoodDay 23:42, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Devils alternate captains
The 'source' claiming Brian Rafalski is an alternate captain, doesn't mention Jamie Langenbrunner. GoodDay 00:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Since Njdhockey's 'reliable source' omits Langenbrunner, I've removed him as a Devils alternate captain. GoodDay 16:28, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See new source at New Jersey Devils. Re-adding Langenbrunner as a Devils alternate captain & removing Rafalski. GoodDay 16:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Wild alternate captains
When Rolston or Walz are named captain (during the season) as they were in the past, does that still mean the alternates aren't rotating? GoodDay 22:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Years as Captain
I think it would be a good idea to add a column to the table titled "Year Became Captain", i.e. so we could see which teams have add captains for longer periods. See Closer (baseball) for a similar example. I don't know enough about other teams to put this together. Anyone else think this is a good idea?Ags412 23:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I like it. GoodDay 23:34, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Filling in Alternate captains
We shouldn't be adding in interim alternate captains (guys who wear an 'A', while somebody in injurd and out of the lineup). Let's just keep the regular 'A's. It makes things less confusing and cluttered. GoodDay 13:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * In order to end constant bickering with anon editors - I've chosen to add interim alternate captains (with explanation for their inclusion) & added injury tags to injured captains & alternate captains. GoodDay (talk) 03:26, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

I think fill-in "A"s should be added. This site should give info on who is wearing letters in a game that would be played right now! Jm2c Austin19 (talk) 23:31, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It's too much of a headache. GoodDay (talk) 14:06, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I strongly disagree! We had it in prior seasons and it worked! Ok, leave out the 1 or 2 game "A"s, but long-time "A"s like Marc Staal should definitely be included!! Austin19 (talk) 01:39, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I still think that's a bad idea. But I've no intentions of stopping such additions. GoodDay (talk) 14:08, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

St. Louis Blues Alternate Captains
Jamal Mayers is also a rotating alternate for the St. Louis Blues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.182.236.188 (talk) 03:12, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source for that? GoodDay 14:43, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I've seen him wear an 'a' on his sweater? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.182.225.180 (talk) 15:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * We need a 'source' though. GoodDay (talk) 16:09, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't matter now, because the blues have named Paul Kariya, Keith Tkachuck and Barret Jackman the permanent alternates, whereas Eric Brewer is the captain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.182.225.180 (talk) 21:37, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, ya suppose Andy Murray got the message (see here)? GoodDay (talk) 21:55, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

captains & alternate captains at 'NHL official websites'
Having check the Chicago Blackhawks official website? they list no alternate captains. Thus my reason for not having any here. GoodDay (talk) 13:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Neither do the Bruins and the Caps! I just updated all teams from the official websites except for the Oilers and Bolts for technical reasons and the Sabres and Wild because of the rotating captaincy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Austin19 (talk • contribs) 10:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Ignore my edit summary. What I meant to say is, the NHL official websites aren't fully reliable. GoodDay (talk) 19:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * What is then? You? They are not called the OFFICIAL websites without reason!

Austin19 11:00, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, if you're going to have a crappy attitude here. Then I'll let you do as you like, on this page. GoodDay (talk) 19:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Basically, technically there are no captains during the summer as there is no roster during the summer. We usually just try and leave the previous season's people on the page until the following season because its simpler that way. There really is no need to argue about it. -Djsasso (talk) 19:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * If there are no rosters during the summer, then how do you explain the NHL's movement of players on the websites? Since captaincies are pretty much in perpetuity unless otherwise "blindingly obvious," or announced differently, why can't we name the current captains as captains for the next season's pages?  I don't see how it's different from assuming that the coach and GM will be coach and GM when the season starts.
 * And since the Blackhawks *have* officially announced Toews as captain for the next season, can he be listed? ConkblockCity (talk) 02:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Because coaches and GMs have contracts and unless its stated that they won't be the GM/Coach then they are the GM/Coach. Captains, technically are named at the beginning of each season even if it seems that they are not. If an official announcement has been made then yes you can list him. -Djsasso (talk) 15:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * To rephrase what Djsasso has said: only blindingly obvious captaincy changes should be made during the summer. Unless a team announces that a player will/won't be captain next season, or the captain leaves for another team (like Markus Naslund did), we should leave it. Keep in mind that there's no prize for breaking a news story early.-Wafulz (talk) 20:25, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Definately a better way to say it than I did. Thanks. -Djsasso (talk) 20:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Would it be helpful to add notes for vacancies? E.g., for the Thrashers captain, have a note below the table saying "Vacated when Bobby Holik signed with the Devils"? —C.Fred (talk) 21:00, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Intro expansion
If anyone wants to work on a new intro to the article, you are free to use my sandbox. I think we should state the season, go into a breif history of captains and assisstants, and name a few notable current captains (Crosby is the youngest, whoever is the longest tenured, etc.) The better we can use the intro to desribe what we're trying to list, the better quality the list will become.  Black  ngold29   21:38, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Anyone think we should add a reference column? Obvoiusly no one for the upcoming season has been announced, but I think it could only help once they start coming.  Black  ngold29   21:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm wondering if we don't only need references, but a set of notes might be warranted. By way of illustration:

Notes 

References


 * Make sense? —C.Fred (talk) 01:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Canucks captain, Luongo??
We need a note that Luongo is the Canucks unofficial captain. GoodDay (talk) 19:36, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * How's that? —C.Fred (talk) 21:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Jolly good. GoodDay (talk) 21:15, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Reference column?
Anyone else think we should add a ref column in the fashion of List of Tampa Bay Rays Opening Day starting pitchers? I see no sense in having a ref for the captain and then repeating it for the alt. captain. Should make it look a little less cluttered. Thoughts?  Black  ngold29   21:20, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No prob. GoodDay (talk) 21:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It also eliminates needing to name all the refs that get used twice. That was the other format I considered. I still think the notes need to go next to the names in question. —C.Fred (talk) 21:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Penguins alternate captains
The Pens A's for this season are Gonchar & Sydor. As both are injured, Orpik & Malkin are filling-in. How shall we handle this? GoodDay (talk) 23:33, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


 * List them all and add an explanatory note. —C.Fred (talk) 23:43, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Wait a sec, do you have a source that says they're filling in? According to this they are rotating one each month. I believe the other alt. is from a team vote of some kind. There's no "filling in" that I can see.  Black  ngold29   00:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

How's about listing '4' alterante captains. GoodDay (talk) 00:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Based on that article, it's Gonchar (injured) and Malkin (rotating) at this point. —C.Fred (talk) 00:11, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Err, does anybody have Therrien's cell-number? Perhaps get some light on this situation? The Pens official website lists Gonchar & Sydor (unless it's not updated). GoodDay (talk) 00:16, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I say we just list Malkin and Orpik because they're the only two who have worn the A during gameplay. When/If Gonchar comes back he can easily be added. Actually, that might not be a bad policy for all teams; "only players who have worn the A during a game are listed". Thoughts?  Black  ngold29   00:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, you have a point there. The teams actually appoint the captains & alternate captains on a game-by-game basis (they present the list to the game officials). GoodDay (talk) 00:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybe we could give this a few days, until every team has had a game, and then try to update and cite every team. When do teams start playing in North America, NHL.com's redesign is awesome, but they haven't updated their standings yet.  Black  ngold29   00:30, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Yikes, I forgot about the North American reg games not having started yet. GoodDay (talk) 00:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, both NHL.com and ESPN are listing pre-season and regular season games in one list and it's confusing as hell.  Black  ngold29   00:42, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Maple Leafs captaincy is vacant
I believe we need the note on Sundin changed from incumbent captain to previous captain or former captain. I don't know how to do it. GoodDay (talk) 19:24, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I put 'incumbent' because I wasn't sure if his captaincy had been removed. You can change it. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 16:22, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

'Tis cool; I believe C.Fred has made the adjustments. GoodDay (talk) 16:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


 * They played last night, but their site doesn't list one. Aren't teams required to dress one?  Black  ngold29   16:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Nope. GoodDay (talk) 16:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * But they need somebody, and alternate atleast.  Black  ngold29   16:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

They've appointed five alternate captains, three of them are to wear their letters on a monthly basis (assuming no captain has been choosen yet). Of note: The Thrashers & the Panthers have opted to leave the captaincies vacant, aswell. GoodDay (talk) 16:47, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Minnesota Wild
Though they've named their permanent alternate captains for the season. It's best we wait an see who the October captain will be; as sometimes one of the permanent alternates are named captain. GoodDay (talk) 16:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Please folks, we don't need an explanation for why Gaborik is serving as an alternate captain, in place of Koivu (see Wild official website). It's quite obvious, Koivu is serving as captain (for October). The Wild have done this before. GoodDay (talk) 13:07, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Dallas Stars & Florida Panthers
The Stars captain & alternates are Brendan Morrow, Mike Modano & Sergei Zubov. Stephane Robidas' name should be removed (as he was only a fill-in). The 'temporary' replacements should be described as such. The Panthers have three alternate captains, Bryan Allen, Corey Stillman & Stephen Weiss. Any extra names are injury replacements; they should be noted as such. GoodDay (talk) 16:48, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Lightning alternate captains
Jeff Halpern was wearing an "A" on his jersey; on 12/18 vs Colorado. Andrej Meszároš was not. St. Louis Still had his "A" on his jersey. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.102.150.80 (talk) 17:45, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * We need a source for the change. Perhaps the Lightning are gonna have 3 alternate captains (St. Louis, Halpern & Meszaros). GoodDay (talk) 18:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Injuries & Replacements
Just nitpicking. Would it be easier, to not bother constantly putting in replacements for the injured? For example, the Colorado Avalanche alternates are cumbersome. GoodDay (talk) 16:39, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Top Image
Hey that's a great idea, having Joe Sakic as the top image. Perhaps, we should always have the current longest serving captain, as the top image. GoodDay (talk) 17:12, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Please Fix the Table
So, the Calgary Flames reference was backwards in the table. I tried to fix it and ended up making it worse. So can someone who knows what they're doing clean up after my mistake? Sorry guys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.72.63.204 (talk) 08:13, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

New York Islanders
I thought about removing Park & Weight from the lists, as they were fill-ins for the injured Sillinger. However, I chose not to as Sillinger has played only 7-games this season (2008-09). GoodDay (talk) 17:18, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

According to the Islanders roster, only Witt and Park are currently listed as alternates. Perhaps it should be downsized to those two players for the time being.24.74.30.251 (talk) 09:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, Witt and Sillinger were the Alternates to Guerin, but Sillinger was still recovering from his surgery and Park & Weight were named as replacements for Sillinger at the start of the season. When Sillinger returned to the line-up, he was altenating with both Park and Weight. As the injuries took Sillinger and Weight and Guerin was traded, Hunter, Martinek and Streit wore the A. As of now, Witt, Sillinger, Park and weight should be listed as Alternates until the Islanders annouced their new Captains. Raul17 (talk) 14:52, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The Islanders' roster on their official site, that this list uses as a source, has Witt and Park as the alternates. What's the point of using references if we're not going to use their information? 96.224.67.92 (talk) 07:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Some of the websites weren't updated during the 2008-09 season (prime example, the Leafs). Thus they're not reliable. GoodDay (talk) 18:26, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Except the Islanders don't fall into that. At the end of the season that page had A's all over the place. Now they just have two. 96.224.67.92 (talk) 23:44, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Each team site is maintained by an individual webmaster. That one site is poorly maintained does not disqualify all.  One would be wise to view each site independently. Resolute 23:48, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose, put in the website's version. The captaincy & alternate captaincies won't be straigtened out until September/October, anyways. GoodDay (talk) 19:09, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Can we stop editing the Islanders' captains until they annouce their decisions? They might name Witt as permanent Alternate with Park, Weight, Trent Hunter & Mark Streit as rotating Alternates!! Raul17 (talk) 18:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * IMHO, it should be no captain (which is accurate) & alternate captains Mike Sillinger & Brendan Witt. Park & Weight were merely (home & road) fill-ins for the injured Sillinger. GoodDay (talk) 18:55, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That's not true! I found games in which that both Park & Weight wore the A while Sillinger was playing!Raul17 (talk) 19:22, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Seeing as Sillinger was out of the lineup for nearly the entire season, perhaps we should have Sillinger, Witt, Park & Weight listed. GoodDay (talk) 19:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You have mentioned that earlier and I agree, but someone always edits it to Witt & Park because the Isles' site doesn't list Weight with an A!! Raul17 (talk) 19:48, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Joe Sakic to Daniel Alfredsson
If Sakic retires tomorrow (July 9, 2009), his image at the top of this article should be replaced with Alfredsson's. As the Sens captain would be come the longest serving 'current' NHL team captain. GoodDay (talk) 22:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Why do we have to change it? He's the best person to describe an NHL captain —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stjonnypopo (talk • contribs) 02:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I would disagree with the change as well, mainly because the image of Alfredsson is not very high quality. Maybe I can fix that when Ottawa comes to town this winter...  I can see the argument for removing Sakic's image, however, given this is a list of current captains; but at the same time, his image is being used as an example of what the "C" means, so I'm just going to ride the fence on whether or not to replace it. Resolute 20:56, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If that's the criteria for the 'top image', then Yzerman should be there. I suggest we preserve the spot, for the current longest serving captain. Afterall, the article is about current captains. GoodDay (talk) 17:54, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Umm, where does Yzerman enter this? Read the caption, it's referring to the "C" and what it means, not making any kind of argument for who the best captain was.  If we can find a decent quality photo of Alfredsson, I'd have no issue with a change, but that is a very poor image to lead an article with. Resolute 20:56, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I mentioned Yzerman, because he holds the NHL record for longevity as captain with one team (20yrs/19 season). GoodDay (talk) 20:58, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I've replaced Sakic (image) with Alfredsson. Sakic has retired & Alfredsson is now currently the longest serving NHL team captain (with 1 team). If possible, would somebody come up with a better image of Alfredsson. GoodDay (talk) 19:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Honestly, is that picture really the best to lead the page? The picture of Sakic was ideal because the C was clearly visible in the jersey. Sure, he's the current longest serving, but I don't think that should be enough for an inferior picture. The shot of Iginla further down the page would be a better choice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.68.136 (talk) 07:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Sakic is no longer a 'current captain'. I encourage you to seek a better image of Alfredsson. GoodDay (talk) 19:07, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I wasn't implying we should have left Sakic there. Again, I'm proposing we make the shot of Iginla the leading image as it clearly shows the C stitched on his sweater. In my opinion, this holds much more weight for this page, as it is much more relevant to the caption below it. Using the longest serving captain is all well and good, but not at the expense of using an inferior picture. Once we find a better picture of Alfredson, by all means, switch them out, but until then, I think we should use the more relevant picture.24.185.126.136 (talk) 03:39, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah sure, until a better image of Alfredsson comes along. GoodDay (talk) 19:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless someone out east beats me to it, I will make that a priority next time the Sens come to Calgary. :) Resolute 22:43, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Seriously? That's your entire response, a schoolyard shot at semantics? 71.167.68.136 (talk) 23:17, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

New York Rangers
Did anyone happen to watch any of the Rangers games? Who's the other alternate captain? GoodDay (talk) 17:34, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, got it. It's Wade Redden. -- GoodDay (talk) 14:53, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * How the Rangers are getting away with it, I don't know. But, I've watched a few of their games & it's true - they've only got one alternate (Callahan) serving with Captain Chris Drury. GoodDay (talk) 13:01, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This is just like the Islanders about ten years ago. They wouldm have only two players with letters and would inform the game officials about Joe Reekie's unofficial alternate captain status. It's not uncommon for a non-lettered player asking for verification on the rules. In fact, I have seen coaches like Brent Sutter use non-lettered players to get the attention of the referees several times. Raul17 (talk) 17:25, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm convinced that Tortorella is out to set me crazy. PS: Thankfully, the Wild coach (Richards) has ended their annoying 'monthly rotation'. GoodDay (talk) 17:31, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Captain Schmaptain
I believe there's 3 captainless teams: Toronto Maple Leafs, Montreal Canadiens & Minnesota Wild. GoodDay (talk) 14:49, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Injuries & Replacements (Part II)
Should we continue adding injury replacements? It creates the potential for article instabiltiy, particularly when dealing with 'short term' injuries. GoodDay (talk) 17:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I probably wouldn't. -DJSasso (talk) 14:53, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Now, if only we could convince the IPS & young editors. GoodDay (talk) 15:00, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Short-term injuries, like a week or two, no. Long-term, like Markov, yes.  Cammalleri will be an "A" for months. FlameMoth (talk) 13:16, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Okie Dokie. GoodDay (talk) 14:26, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Luongo
Is he still captain? It seems he has changed his helmet, and if thats the case, we should atleast take out the part about the mask.  Grsz 11  05:31, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This is what I've seen often lately, has he switched to favoring this one over the one with the C?  Grsz 11  05:34, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * He's still the captain. GoodDay (talk) 16:56, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Atlanta Thrashers
The Atlanta "A"s are not vacant anymore! The Thrashers are going to go with 3 "A"s this season: Antropov, Ladd and Oduya. I just can't find the article anymore, so won't put it in the article until I find the source. If anyone finds it, please change article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Austin19 (talk • contribs) 14:54, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * We go by the Thrashers official website, which hasn't made the annoucements yet. GoodDay (talk) 15:01, 8 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Found a souce, Examiner.com Atlanta. Yes indeed, Ramsey has chosen to not name a captain & start the season with Antropov, Ladd & Oduya as alternate captains. The A's will rotated to others, through out the season. GoodDay (talk) 15:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Team's roster page as official source
That is what we go with, right? The roster page is our primary official source. If that is correct, could some people please stop undoing my update of the Islanders' captains! I have not put in injury replacements, although I think they should be there, but since the 5 "A"s are on the official Islanders home page, they are 100% correct and justifiable. Thx a bunch! Austin19 (talk) 04:46, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe Okposos & Streit have returned. GoodDay (talk) 15:42, 13 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Here's an exception for injuries. If a captain or alternate captain is to miss the rest of the season via injury (we're talking months), then a replacement would be acceptable. My point is, why bother clogging up entries with replacements that only last about 2 months or less. GoodDay (talk) 15:47, 13 November 2010 (UTC)


 * None of the Islanders on Injured Reserve have been activated. If they were, the Isles would be two over the 23-man rosters. According to the gameday roster, none of the three were listed as scratches:

http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20102011/RO020243.HTM

I have been pointing out the site's lack of reliability on this subject. I know that Okposo is wearing a sling so he's not coming back for a few months if at all. Raul17 (talk) 06:48, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I boobooed on that one. GoodDay (talk) 15:11, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * If the site's not reliable for IR issues, then we need to find a source that is. If the gameday rosters are consistent with how they present players on the IR v. healthy and non-healthy scratches, then that should be usable. Back to the original point, with 5 "A"s listed on the Islanders roster, who are the normal "A"s and who are the replacements? —C.Fred (talk) 15:48, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Okposo & Streit are the alternate captains. This is why (starting this season) I've advised against adding replacements (unless the injury situation is to last over 2 months). GoodDay (talk) 15:53, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Adding injury nreserves is one thing, but if the official site lists them as "A"s then they are OFFICIALLY alternate captains!! Who are we to tell the Islanders that they are wrong? It would be like us telling George Lucas that the Star Wars Special edition were not to be counted as the Originals, but like separate movies! The teams still know better than some wiki-geeks who their "A"s are!! Austin19 (talk) 06:20, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I reverted ya 'again'. When we have injured & replacement alternates together, it's difficult to tell who's the original alternates. Anyways, this is my last revert, I'll let others choose. GoodDay (talk) 08:21, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Toldcha!! If they are on the official website, they aren't replacements! Why would the Islanders bother adding them otherwise? Austin19 (talk) 02:47, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It's up to the Islanders. I just wish they'd stop changing their minds. GoodDay (talk) 02:50, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * That was exactly my point: it always has been!! The Islanders never changed their mind, they just chose 5 alternates! Austin19 (talk) 01:15, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Maple Leafs
Blasted, now we're getting passerby IPs, inserting Kaberle, during Komisarek's injury. GoodDay (talk) 02:42, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I give up, if yas want 10 A's on a team's roster, a confusing combination of injured alternate captains & filling-in interim alterante captains? indulge yourselves. GoodDay (talk) 05:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Using the team's official website roster as a reference provides WP:Verifiability and disregarding it without a reference is pure WP:OR. If a team chooses to promote a player as an official alternate captain, why should we arbitrarily choose otherwise? Some teams like the Leafs prefer to always have a large complement of rotating officially named alternates. Other teams prefer to only maintain two official alternates even if they are injured, e.g. the Canadiens, where Markov has been injured for the past two years. This is the team's decision, it's up to them, not us to decide. Yes some teams are slow at updating their website which is why every such team on this page also has a reference to justify over-riding the official website. If there is a source indicating so-and-so alternate is temporary, them include that as a reference. If we're not going to use the cited references then we should do away with the reference column and instead indicate that this is the list of the captains and alternates as approved by an inner circle of Wikipedia editors. 99.245.230.74 (talk) 07:31, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It's our practice to not clog up the list with 'injury replacements', no matter the websites. GoodDay (talk) 07:43, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If they are only "injury replacements" then please provide a reference source indicating such, anything remotely legitimate. Otherwise it's just your opinion that the alternate is not a real alternate.  Our practice on this page like all others is to provide references.  Looking at the comments on this page, you're the only one who has an issue with the official websites. If the duck is wearing an A, and quacking like an A and everyone else says it's an A, then accept the fact it's an A.  99.245.230.74 (talk) 08:36, 1 December 2011 (UTC)