Talk:List of deaths through alcohol

Why are references needed here?
It seems to me that since this is just a list page, as long as the cause of death is listed as alcohol-related on a person's main article, their name should be able to be listed here without additional citations needed. If a person is listed who does not have an article yet, then I could understand a need for a citation on the list, but it is going to look terrible ugly to have footnotes after every single person's name. CClio333 (talk) 19:43, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Yootha Joyce
Well, didn't she die of alcoholism?

So many who where near!! ilya 02:38, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Can a links to alcoholism/drunkenness be made: and, if sufficiently different a List of famous alcoholics be made (or a redirect).


 * Shouldn't it be "alcohol-related deaths" or "by alcohol." "Through alcohol" sounds strange. Moncrief 22:50, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

What the heck??
Someone suggested this article be merged with Alcoholism which brought me here to look the article over. Within this article there is no explanation for the difference in what constitutes death from alcohol poisoning, alcohol abuse or alcoholism yet three seperate categories exist.

Also, I spot checked two individuals on this list and the Wiki article for both of them indicates they did not die directly from an alcohol related deaths, so the research on at least 2 (and I only looked at 2) might be incomplete. Just because someone drinks too much for their own good does not mean their death was caused by it.

Lastly, claiming someone died from alcoholism/alcohol poisoning/alcohol abuse without significant, reliable evidence would seem to open Wikipedia up to uncomfortable legal implications as well as looking like the National Enquirer. If we are going to say so and so died from alcoholism we'd be wise to back that claim up. Documenting the actual thing that killed them (like cirrhosis brought on by excessive drinking) would sound a bit more like a researched encyclopedia as well Mr Christopher 21:44, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Dying in an automobile accident is not death caused by alcoholism, death from overdosing on pills is not death caused by alcohol, and a heart attack is not death from alcoholism. Mr Christopher 16:51, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I added the "references or citation of sources" tag to the article. Again, the cause of many of these deaths listed here are in dispute yet this article/list does not reflect that reality.  The Hemingway inclusion was a real howler.  I doubt any encyclopedia in the world has such an unsupported, slanderous list.  Great material for a National Inquirer article though. Mr Christopher 16:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd rather see the whole article deleted. It isn't very encyclopedic at all and seems rather pointless, along with all the reasons pointed out above...Civil Engineer III 17:31, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Agreed. And get this, Jackson Pollock died in a car crash. Since when is a single car accident death by alcoholism?  Mr Christopher 03:48, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Didn't Hemingway shoot himself? Srn 15:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

You can't die from "alcoholism," you can die from cirrhosis, jaundice, heart disease, drunk driving or other things brought on by excessive use of alcohol, but it would be scientifically impossible for a coroner to conduct an autopsy and conclude that a person died of alcoholism. <THIS! Other than that, though, the page is a helpful resource and should continue to exist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.9.109.91 (talk) 20:20, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Also Sir William Rowan Hamilton should not be on this list. His last months have been described extensively by Graves in his 1880s biography, and it had nothing to do with alcoholism. According to Hankins, who wrote the 1980 biography about Hamilton, there even was a doctor's report showing that he did not drink any alcohol anymore in his last months. Placing Hamilton on this list would therefore mean that everyone who dies from gout is an alcoholic. Which is of course nonsense. VWA (talk) 20:28, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

de-prod
since it was kept once at afd it should really go back there instead of prod, since it is obviously not an incontestible deletion. But a suggest-- why not agree on renaming the article instead? DGG (talk) 16:57, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

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possible unreliable source used on this page in several places
kirjasto.sci.fi. http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/rchandle.htm "Brendan Behan". kirjasto.sci.fi. http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/behan.htm "O.Henry". kirjasto.sci.fi. http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/ohenry.htm. "James Thurber". kirjasto.sci.fi. http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/thurber.htm.

The above website appears to not meet the requirements of being a reliable source since it is self published. There is a discussion [here]. There is also a discussion at the [plagiarism talk page] about how to handle this issue.-Crunchy Numbers (talk) 03:18, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Torsten Carleman
There has been ongoing contention about whether Torsten Carleman's death from alcoholism should be discussed.

The viewpoints of editors experienced with biographies discussing causes of death would be helpful.

Sincerely, Kiefer .Wolfowitz 12:56, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Amy Winehouse
I have edited the article to state the fact that she died from alcohol poisoning not "alcohol withdrawal syndrome" which was misreported following her death. The wikipedia article on Amy Winehouse even states this. So get references from there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.176.160 (talk) 18:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

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