Talk:List of diplomatic missions of North Korea

Oceania section; Geocities reference
It would be preferable, consistent with other articles, that any interesting details about openings or closures go up in the introductory paragraph rather than in the listings. You can write about more interesting closures (eg Scandinavia kicking out DPRK missions in the 1960s over drug smuggling) I am not in favour of commencing a precedent where we show pictures of the building of embassies that have closed down. I am puzzled why you think we should remove the Geocities reference when we obtained much of the data from that source. Citing sources is a non-negotiable requirement on Wikipedia. Kransky (talk) 05:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As per WP:RS and WP:EL links to Geocities are not supposed to be used. The disclaimer at the site is more than enough to show it is not a reliable source for information....

Warning : It is a British private web site, not a government web site of Democratic People's Republic of Korea. A British citizen wrote it for his personal hobby, all information listed here are taken from telephone directory or internet, some may be missing, outdated or even wrong, you must take your own risk on using the data list here. What is needed is a reliable source with a history for fact checking. --Россавиа Диалог 05:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, there are two issues at play. (a) do we use cite resources, and (b) can we rely on this private website?
 * On (a) I think there is an obligation that we must.
 * On (b) As mentioned, there is no official DPRK website or source for which we can use with absolute certainty. The next best thing is to use an unofficial guide as a basis, like the Geocities website, and then corraborate the findings with official sources.  So he says there is a North Korean embassy in Bangkok; OK, I could then use the Thai Diplomatic List or the Bangkok white pages to corroborate this.  It is not rocket science.
 * One trick I also used was to Google Search the word "floral tribute" for all articles in the Korea Central News Agency website - I would get articles about far flung North Korean embassies being given floral tributes on various national days.
 * I have made it quite clear in the article that we are relying on unoffical sources. Kransky (talk) 06:37, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, that is not how WP works Krasnky. Given the poor state of these lists, and the fact that it was based entirely on unofficial sources (WP:RS says that if a subject is not covered by reliable sources then WP should not have an article on the subject), it would be enough that if taken to AfD it would likely fail (WP:NOT, WP:NOT, WP:FLAGS, WP:RS, WP:V, etc). I have now given the majority references, however, it still needs third party sources, and frankly, these entire list set-ups need a complete overhaul as they are of no purpose other than basically replicating a google search for website links. --Россавиа Диалог 15:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I upgraded the article tag to "refimprove" as most of the content is now sourced :) WhisperToMe (talk) 15:59, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

There are ways to get news articles on Google News and cite them for establishment of North Korean embassies. I just found one to confirm the North Korean Embassy in Moscow. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:09, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

There was also a North Korean embassy in Copenhagen: http://www.newspaperarchive.com/LandingPage.aspx?type=glpnews&search=%22north%20korean%20embassy%22%20beirut&img=\\na0002\28388\284534.html Wednesday, October 20, 1976 - "Sweden escalates crackdown on North Korean smuggling" WhisperToMe (talk) 17:34, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Times Herald Record, The

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Hungary
There was a DPRK embassy in Budapest when I visited there in 2003. If anyone has a citation that it still exists, then Hungary should be added to the article. —Psychonaut (talk) 14:13, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I was in Budapest in 2006 and couldn't find it, although tourist maps still showed it existed. Kransky (talk) 10:24, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Chongryon
I am not convinced that the DPRK and Japanese government engages with each other through the Chongryon, at least to the extent that we can consider it a de fact mission. Chongryon is first and foremost a community organisation directed to the Korean population in Japan. It may engage in Track II diplomacy with the Japanese government but that is not its raison d'etre (unlike say a Taiwanese government office) Kransky (talk) 02:14, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * So, what kinds of activities would indicate a Track I diplomacy? I would like to check news sources to see what the Chongryon does. That way if it turns out the Chongryon engages in Track I it could be restored - I'm just not sure what to look for. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:27, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Track I Diplomacy refers to official governmental communication; Track II refers to informal communication which is proxy to being communication. A regular round of golf between diplomats of states that are officially not on speaking terms, in which some views are exchanged, could be Track II.  We are listing diplomatic missions and thus we should stick to those conducting what you say is Track I - only that we make an exception to Taiwanese missions since they are established to carry out Track I under the guise of Track II (or thereabouts).  The Chongryon may work closely with the North Korean government, but it certainly is not an organ of the DPRK Government the way Taiwanese representative offices are.  Kransky (talk) 08:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Error on the map
There is no embassy in Macedonia, as erroneously stated on the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.236.92.208 (talk) 18:44, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Libya
Libya is not shown here, but this article references an embassy in Tripoli.--Dudeman5685 (talk) 15:36, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Italy, Spain, Portugal
This news source from a reputed website dated on Jan 18 2014 reports that there are diplomatic missions of the DPR Korea to Italy, Spain, and Portugal, but that there was only an embassy in Italy until Jan 15 2014, when an ambassador was presented to Spain. It also states that the ambassador to Italy served as non-resident ambassador to both Spain and Portugal. If this article is correct we might need to rethink how we include or exclude the complicated patchwork of DPRK foreign missions to the list. I couldn't find in the revision history when Spain was added to the list, but I assume it was at a time when there was no resident embassy in Madrid. Either it was incorrect to include Spain in the list until now, or it is incorrect to exclude Portugal now. Should we include or exclude countries which do not have a permanent/resident embassy but only a mission détachée from another embassy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anselmelt (talk • contribs) 04:35, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

EDIT: Spain was added a few days ago. Still, should we include Portugal and the like? Maybe create a new category? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anselmelt (talk • contribs) 04:42, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

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Spain, Peru, Mexico, Kuwait
4 countries that have closed north Korean embassies in their countries and expelled the north koreans ambassadors, all this week september 2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.48.9.217 (talk) 00:39, 20 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Four countries have expelled the North Korean ambassadors but have not closed the embassies. Aquintero82, (talk), 19 September 2017, 19:41, UTC

I dont understand your logic, Aquintero82. The very title of this wikipedia page is «List of diplomatic missions of North Korea».

The buildings of these embassies still exist, of course, but the north koreans diplomats themselves are not exerting any diplomatic missions in those buildings anymore. Therefore there is clearly no more diplomatic missions of North Korea in these 4 countries. That was the aim, for those 4 countries (Spain, Peru, Mexico and Kuwait) for expelling those ambassadors, i.e. to cut diplomatic ties with North Korea. The buildings of these embassies are emptied of any of their previous «diplomatic missions» of North Korea. The title of this wikipedia page is «List of diplomatic missions of North Korea». — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.48.9.217 (talk) 04:51, 20 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, unfortunately, you are incorrect. The ambassadors were expelled, but not all of the diplomatic staff. There still remains diplomatic officials in those embassies and diplomatic relations between North Korea and Mexico, Spain and Kuwait are still in tact. Please read carefully the news sources. Aquintero82, (talk), 20 September 2017, 06:55, UTC

Embassy Kathmandu to close
NK will close embassy in Kathmandu - ILBobby (talk) 02:29, 9 November 2023 (UTC)