Talk:List of dirt track ovals in the United States

Wyoming
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark McWire (talk • contribs) 03:00, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

North Carolina missing
North Carolina is missing from the page SpeedwayFanSup3rb1rd (talk) 15:07, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

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hey dude next time you look for said dirt tracks don't check Wikipedia and search them up- tysm!! that's literally 95% of dirt tracks in kansas you deleted TeaganFox (talk) 01:21, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Per WP:BURDEN: Any material lacking an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the material may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source. See also Wikipedia is not a directory or catalog. Grorp (talk) 01:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't expect a local dirt track in Kansas to have a Wikipedia page.. I get its so idiots don't put in a fake track and stuff but there are websites for said tracks and news articles. I mean 81 literally has World Of Outlaws in like 2 weeks. Plus do you really expect people to try and take some time out of their day to find a source for a track they've been to 20+ times?? Sorry but I just got disappointed 95% of the tracks me and the fellow Kansas race fans get deleted because lack of sources. TeaganFox (talk) 01:54, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I understand the disappointment, but Wikipedia has reasons for its standards. The two remaining Kansas entries might also get deleted because they also require a citation (not just their own standalone article). There is so much wrong with this list-article. I'm just working on it bit by bit. A lot of misguided "work" went into creating this list-article which violates so many Wikipedia guidelines, but don't punch the messenger. Like you said, there are websites for said tracks and news articles, so use one of those. Wikipedia is not meant to be used as your directory. Grorp (talk) 02:14, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yea i get it- I just don't wanna spend 3 hours making 5 dirt track wikis with 15 sources for all of them. Thanks for clarification. Just was confused. TeaganFox (talk) 02:20, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * If you have 15 sources, then add the lines back into this article and use those citations to cite the entries in the list. No need to make a separate article. Grorp (talk) 02:46, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I get it- I just don't wanna take my time readding- hopefully people start showing up instead of me doing all of it. Thanks for clarification btw TeaganFox (talk) 05:08, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Questions

 * 1) For the section "Notable dirt tracks", is the word "notable" being used to mean Wikipedia notability (presumably by having a blue link to a standalone article), or does it mean notable in the ordinary English language sense?
 * 2) What is the reason for different sets under "Notable dirt tracks" and "Race track listings by state"? The entries in the two sections don't match.
 * 3) What does the dark-gray coloration mean on an entry in the tables? There is no key for readers to explain the color.
 * 4) Under "Race track listings by state", the column "Classes" isn't supported by any citation given, and isn't supported in the wikilinked standalone articles, either (I spot-checked several, but not all). Where does this information come from? WP:OR?

▶ I am Grorp ◀ 02:01, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Over five months and no answers to the above questions.


 * I removed the gray coloring (#3); removed any entries which did not have a bluelink for the track; removed external links to main webpages (they are not citations); removed the "Classes" column because they have never had a source and the remaining alleged source (https://speedwaysonline.com/tracks/category/oval-tracks/) doesn't have that information for any of the several tracks I clicked on to check (#4).


 * This go-around, I noticed that several of the blue-linked entries in the list are not also mentioned at speedwaysonline.com. I didn't check to see if speedwaysonline.com was a source for the "Type" column (didn't do a WP:Verify check on the remaining content).


 * Still no answer for question #2 above. If no explanation, next time the section "Notable dirt tracks" might get removed as duplicates.

▶ I am Grorp ◀ 22:51, 6 April 2024 (UTC)