Talk:List of divided islands

"Islands" created by rivers
I know this is a quibble, but I just wanted to put it on the record. The Orinoco River splits into two branches near Tamatama, in Amazonas state, Venezuela. One branch flows north and disembogues in Delta Amacuro state. The other (the Casiquiare canal) flows south and joins the Rio Negro, which meets the Amazon near Manaus, Brazil. In this way, all of the Guianas (Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana) and substantial parts of Brazil and Venezuela are surrounded by river-waters and the Atlantic Ocean, in effect forming a kind of island. If geographers actually considered it an island, at over a million km.², it would be the second-largest in the world. Gwil 06:10, 7 December 2005 (UTC)


 * FYI, there's discussion on this issue at island. Newyorkbrad 16:44, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Cuba
I've removed this from the list; Guantanamo is merely land leased from the Cubans by the USA, as is done by many states in many countries. Robdurbar 11:56, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Good call there! =J //Big Adamsky 15:14, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The lease is not a normal lease, it is a perpetual lease signed under military threat. The current Cuban Government considers Guantanamo Bay to be an occupied territory and has refused to accept rent payments from the U.S. Government.


 * Cuba Island should be listed as a de facto divided island. 2001:8003:9008:1301:D9E9:A675:6A16:4B42 (talk) 14:03, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Merge
There is a merge proposal which has been overhastily implemented by redirecting this well-established page to a shorter newer page. I have undone it so that the proper procedures can be followed: to avoid hiding the edit history here, the new page should be deleted and this page moved to there. jnestorius(talk) 13:29, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Support the move; I think it was probably done innocently presuming that there would be no quibbles and therefore no proposal neccesary. --Robdurbar 15:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Support the merge. Since this is the older page, we should probably just redirect the newer page here. The newer page doesn't have much edit history -- the only major additions were the creation of the page and one edit adding content (both by the same editor). Polaron | Talk 02:01, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Aral Sea Island
What about the island in the Aral Sea divided between Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan?
 * If you have a good source of information about it, put it on the list! (I never knew there was such an island, but of course until a few years ago it would have been entirely within the USSR.) Newyorkbrad 20:42, 4 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Articles on source Asia Water Water say the island, Vozrozhdeniye, is shared by the two - but it also says that the shrinking of the Aral Sea means it is no longer an island, but is connected permanently to the mainland. - DavidWBrooks 21:15, 4 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Saying that it is permanently connected to the mainland is foolish. NOBODY knows this for a fact. We do not have a crystal ball that will tell us what will happen to that land in 200 years, 500 years, 1000 years, 10,000 years, etc. NOBODY knows if the Russians might undo the catastrophic irrigation projects of the Soviets (which dried up the Aral Sea), or if the rainfall in that area might not increase dramatically. Using the word "permanently" w/o any proof of that fact is a foolish errand. Why isn't this obvious to everyone? Is the splitting of a diamond permanent? Yes, it is. Is the Atlantic Ocean permanently connnected to the Pacific with a canal across Central America? Nobody knows!98.67.97.225 (talk) 05:13, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Even though it is no longer an island shouldn't it still be under historical examples?
 * That sounds like it could be a good place for this one. Maybe add the additional information that DavidWBrooks gave and a link to the source.
 * I guess if we want to be technical, the question is whether the island was divided anytime before Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan became part of the USSR - or whether it's been an island since 1991 when they became independent ... since between the 1920's and 1991 it wouldn't have been divided.... Newyorkbrad 21:40, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I've added it based on the info at Vozrozhdeniya Island. Don't forget that Wikipedia is a useful source of information! jnestorius(talk) 22:23, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, man, don't use that site for a source; it's not reliable. - DavidWBrooks 23:30, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Temporary islands
I wonder if the changing level of the Aral Sea has led to any previously submerged areas on the border surfacing as new islands. There are also lakes with fluctuating water levels, like Lake Chad, which might sometimes have temporary binational islands. Another plausible contender is Sarygamysh Lake between Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan, looking at the max and min levels on this MSN map. Possibly also Lake Kara Kaldy on the Syr Darya jnestorius(talk) 22:10, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Use of Unofficial Flag of Northern Ireland
The Northern Ireland flag used in this article is not an official flag - see article Flag of Northern Ireland. Its use here is controversial, not in line with Wikipedia neutrality on such issues and should therefore be deleted. Peter Clarke 11:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I actually wonder why there are any flags at all. It all seems repetitive and useless. 71.102.144.120 00:37, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I have again removed the addition of this flag, which was not in the article before 15 July. I don't care whether or  Northern Ireland is used instead, but the use of the unofficial flag is right out. See Template:Country data Northern Ireland, WP:IMOS FLAGS and Manual of Style/Icons for guidance. FDW777 (talk) 09:06, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Finland-Russia:
I'm travelling the Finland-Russia border loooking for divided lake (or river) islands; there are some candidates where the map scale is too large to rule definitively:
 * Possibly Hopeasaari in Korpijärvi
 * IBS 74 says "the frontier [...] passes over the Korpijarvi and Suojarvi lakes so that the northern island in Lake Korpijarvi remains on the Finnish side." jnestorius(talk) 23:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * In Melaselänjärvi (as well as the sure things listed): Karpankari
 * Possibly one or more in Virmajarvi
 * jnestorius(talk) 02:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, in the sea, Koiluoto, Jähi, and a third unnamed islet, in the Gulf of Finland, seem from these maps to be divided between 🇫🇮 and 🇷🇺. jnestorius(talk) 06:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Gulf of Finland islet (SE of Peräluoto)
 * Koiluoto
 * Jähi

U.S-Canada contenders:

 * One island in Lake Metigoshe between North Dakota and Manitoba. USGS says no, it's entirely in U.S.: .  But North Dakota Game and Fish department says the northern tip is in Canada: . jnestorius(talk) 22:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Look at http://1.usa.gov/12esyDi, which clearly shows that the northern tip is just over the border in Canada. The http://www.nd.gov/gis/mapsdata/ site states: "Here you will be able to create maps, browse data, and extract data from the North Dakota GIS Hub," and "The [North Dakota] Hub Explorer is a browser-based interactive mapping tool that displays GIS Hub layers, grouped by data category. With this tool you can zoom, pan, query, print maps, and download vector data. The Hub Explorer has been tested on a number of browsers including Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, and with limited testing on Opera and Safari. "
 * Look at http://1.usa.gov/12esyDi, which clearly shows that the northern tip is just over the border in Canada. The http://www.nd.gov/gis/mapsdata/ site states: "Here you will be able to create maps, browse data, and extract data from the North Dakota GIS Hub," and "The [North Dakota] Hub Explorer is a browser-based interactive mapping tool that displays GIS Hub layers, grouped by data category. With this tool you can zoom, pan, query, print maps, and download vector data. The Hub Explorer has been tested on a number of browsers including Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, and with limited testing on Opera and Safari. "


 * Jeff in CA 17:05, 20 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Island in the Columbia River between Washington and British Columbia.
 * Possibly island in a salt lake between North Dakota and Saskatchewan, though the lake looks dry . jnestorius(talk) 23:26, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * What happened to the divided islands in the Lake of the Woods? The NASA imagery access from the Northwest_Angle article shows number divided islands. --Kvasir 09:42, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't believe there are any. Images that superimpose map features on satellite images never align them perfectly.  Check out The topozone maps; it's clear following the border that it avoids all islands.  jnestorius(talk) 14:14, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Belarus-Latvia:

 * Lake Rychy.
 * This wee lake.

Bulgaria-Turkey-Greece:

 * Island on Maritsa river - [] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sashabolgar (talk • contribs) 18:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

worldislandinfo contenders
Only two islands at Islands Divided by International Borders from www.worldislandinfo.com are not currrently listed on this wiki page. These are: BTW the coor template link is currently broken: I hope it comes back soon... jnestorius(talk) 00:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 14. island in Purnujarvi, 61°15'N, 29°10'E, Finland - Russia, c. 40 acres/c. 15 ha. 61.25°N, 29.16667°W is in Lake Hiijarvi, .   Purnujarvi is west of Hiijarvi and entirely within Finland . I think the island being referred to is Suurisaari within Hiijarvi, but the border expressly avoids this islands (see the map, and also International Boundary Study No. 74: "Hence the frontier runs in an agreed straight line in a northeasterly direction to a point on the western shore of the Karsalampi pond, intersecting Lake Hienjarvi (Hiidenjarvi) and leaving the Suurisaari island on the Finnish side.").  I think this is just a mistake from using a map with too large a scale.  (Google Earth draws a straight line border through Suurisaari.) worldislandinfo: A Note on Sources
 * 21. middle island, Södra Boksjön, Norway - Sweden, 0.2 acres/0.1 ha. The space between the 2 bigger islands doesn't contain any land visible on any maplink I found, except possibly as a tiny speck on norgesglasset at .  That speck seems too small even for 0.1 hectare, but, assuming it is a piece of land, the map doesn't show the full extent of the Swedish portion.  I'm reluctant to add it without better evidence.

USSR military maps
I added the following sections, based on USSR military maps from the 1980s, but I've removed them again: I removed them as I'm not sure they are still correct, or indeed ever were. jnestorius(talk) 20:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Eleven islands in the Syr Darya between 🇹🇯 and 🇺🇿
 * One island in the Amu Darya between 🇹🇯 and 🇺🇿 (near the tripoint with Afghanistan)
 * Many islands in the Amu Darya between 🇹🇯 and 🇦🇫
 * 1) The former Soviet republics may have renegotiated borders (with each other or Afghanistan) since independence.
 * 2) The islands may be shifting sandbanks as in the Ganges chars.
 * 3) The Afghan border marked in the maps contradicts the International Boundary Study, which says it follows the thalwegs. The map border appears to be the midpoint of the various braided channels.
 * 4) The 1:100,000 maps quoted somewhat contradict the 1:200,000 maps; for example the TAJ-UZB island off the tripoint on the 100k map but includes the tripoint with AFG in the 200k map.
 * 5) The map sites also keep disappearing. I was under the impression the maps were out of copyright, but it looks like someone is hunting them down. (Not that that renders them inadmissable; you can always check them out in person in UC Berkeley.)
 * 6) (Also, many of the 🇹🇯-🇦🇫 islands are in the Panj River, not the Amu Darya which is name for the lower reaches.)

Compliments
As a past contributor to this article i haven't visited this article in a few months. Wow! Congrats with the flags and percentage counts. Excellent additions including many lesser known entries on the list! Good job! --Kvasir 06:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Pollatawny
Searching Google for Pollatawny leads me only to this page, I would expect it mentioned somewhere else, does this place really exist?


 * It's a tiny islet in a small lake. You can see it here by searching for townland Tober (DED Cavangarden, E.A. Donegal) and zooming in on Lough Vearty.  I wouldn't link to that site on the article page as it's not intended as a general map reference; but it should convince you the place exists. jnestorius(talk) 13:36, 3 June 2007 (UTC)


 * That islet is visible in this photo: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lough_Vearty_-_geograph.org.uk_-_884141.jpg


 * Jeff in CA 01:27, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Cuba
Should Cuba be listed? The U.S. controls Guantanamo Bay. – Quadell (talk) (random) 02:33, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Already mentioned in the "See also" section of the article and dicussed earlier on this Talk: page jnestorius(talk) 10:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * You're right, I don't know how I missed that. – Quadell (talk) (random) 12:02, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Cuba should be listed as a de facto divided island. 2001:8003:9008:1301:D9E9:A675:6A16:4B42 (talk) 13:45, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Cyprus
I've somewhat undone User:3meandEr's recent edit regarding Cyprus.
 * The earlier edit summary that "Cyprus for instance is not separated by an international border as such" is incorrect in that Akrotiri and Dhekelia are recognized by Cyprus and internationally as British sovereign territory. This fact also obviates the need to qualify "divided ... by an international border" with "or de facto occupation."  If we open the door to de facto occupations, cases like Guantanamo Bay and Tamil Eelam start to muddy the waters further.
 * I agree that "both POVs need to be stated" though I'm not sure POV is the best term; de jure/de facto seems to be more accurate. In any case, I think listing Cyprus under both 3 countries and 2 countries achieves this.  That's not to say there is no room for improvement; see the following

Current
Currently the listing under "three countries" just points to the listing under "two countries", which gives both breakdowns, thus:

Divided among three countries

 * Cyprus - de facto between three countries, de jure between two: see next section

Divided between two countries

 * Cyprus - De jure between the 🇨🇾 Republic of Cyprus (97%) and the 🇬🇧 United Kingdom (controlling the UK sovereign bases of Akrotiri and Dhekelia; 3%)
 * de facto there is also the unrecognized Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus in the part of the island militarily occupied by 🇹🇷 Turkey ( de facto 36%), together with a 🇺🇳 United Nations administered buffer zone ( de facto 1%), separating the part controlled by the government of the 🇨🇾 Republic of Cyprus ( de facto 61%) from the Turkish-occupied part. The remaining is occupied by 🇬🇧 the UK sovereign bases of Akrotiri and Dhekelia ( de facto 2%)

Alternative
An alternative would be to give the relevant breakdown under each, thus:

Divided among three countries

 * Cyprus - de facto divided between the unrecognized Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus in the part of the island militarily occupied by 🇹🇷 Turkey ( de facto 36%), together with a 🇺🇳 United Nations administered buffer zone ( de facto 1%), separating the part controlled by the government of the 🇨🇾 Republic of Cyprus ( de facto 61%) from the Turkish-occupied part. The remaining is occupied by 🇬🇧 the UK sovereign bases of Akrotiri and Dhekelia ( de facto 2%)

Divided between two countries

 * Cyprus - De jure between the 🇨🇾 Republic of Cyprus (97%) and the 🇬🇧 United Kingdom (controlling the UK sovereign bases of Akrotiri and Dhekelia; 3.0%)

Personally, I prefer the current version, as I think putting it all in one place avoids the danger of someone only reading one half and being irritated by the perceived imbalance/inaccuracy/incompleteness. But that's just my opinion. jnestorius(talk) 22:37, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't understand how the British bases on Cyprus can be both de facto and de jure? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.116.67 (talk) 10:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Situations, facts, et cetera, occur all the time that are both de jure and de facto. This ought to be obvious to anyone, and this is the best possible case. For example, Ottawa is both the de jure and de facto capital city of Canada, and likewise for Paris and France; and Washington, D.C., and the United States. In contrast, Bolivia has the de jure capital city of Sucre but the de facto capital of La Paz.98.67.97.225 (talk) 05:37, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I much prefer the current set-up, in nice easy bullet points. It seems to get lost in the prose above. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 11:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The fact that a user doesn't understand it suggests that it is not quite as easy as you assume. "Things should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." jnestorius(talk) 12:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * If you mean the IP (?), that would require explaining what de facto and de jure were, which is not the point of the page. They are appropriately wikilinked. That being said, more text might be good, just not in a paragraph form like above. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 12:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * IP means "Internet protocol" and also in the terminology of the U.S. Air Force, IP means the "initial point" of a bombing run. Do not go around using acronyms and abbreviations without explaining what they mean. This applies for 99% of them. You can get away with a few of them like U.S.A., NATO, C.I.A., IBM, DVD, TV, LAN and a few more, but don't even try it with the vast majority of these.98.67.97.225 (talk) 05:37, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Hispaniola Unique?
It would appear from the listings in this article that Hispaniola is the only divided island in which each part of the island is the entire country. is this the case, and should ths be noted in the article in some way? 216.66.128.209 (talk) 18:32, 6 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Both Haiti and the Dominican Republic have smaller offshore islands, although Hispaniola is the mainland of each. I don't think this trivia is worth mentioning. There is also the marginal case of Cyprus. jnestorius(talk) 21:50, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

King Faud Causeway
A causeway is not an island, and so should not be in this list. However, if perhaps there is an island that the causeway is on that is divided, that could be included. However, as it stands, I don't think that it belongs on the list. Otherwise we could add a great number of bridges from around the world, not a pleasant situation. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 11:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I have reformatted to make this a bit clearer; it is only Embankment No. 4 which is the (artificial) divided island, not the entire causeway. jnestorius(talk) 12:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Bad English in the text
I have read statements like "divided between nine tribes" in the text. When it comes to statements about sharing things, owning things, etc., in English the correct expression is "divided between" when there are two and only two recipients or owners. In English, the correct expression is "divided among" when there are three or more recipients or owners. I have read or heard thousands of cases (since about the year 2001) in which writers did not follow such rules of writing, speaking, or rhetoric. Actually, they are generally to lazy to be bothered, and they become irritated when someone corrects them. - 98.67.97.225 (talk) 05:59, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You're correct about among/between. Feel free to fix it in the article. Also, will you be irritated if I correct your misspelling of "too" in the last sentence? - DavidWBrooks (talk) 10:55, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Cyprus' de facto percentages
There reads: Republic of Cyprus (60%), Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (35%), United Kingdom sovereign bases of Akrotiri and Dhekelia (4%), United Nations buffer zone (3%)

But, these sum up to 102%. Is this rounding problem or simply an error? In the talk page, these are 61%, 36%, 2% and 1% respectively, which gives 100%.

And strangely, the UK bases are listed to be "de jure" 3%, but "de facto" 4%. Can it be right? 85.217.32.113 (talk) 20:51, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I doubt the UK have lost any control over their military bases. CMD (talk) 05:13, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I've raised related questions at Talk:Cyprus. jnestorius(talk) 14:39, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

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K Island or Nova Zemlia (Нова Земля)
Island name: Nor Romania nor Ukraine call the island Musura Island, but instead K Island or Nova Zemlia (Нова Земля) respectively. Additionally the english name looks to be K island accordingly to wikipedia Wikilink: Looks to me that the wikipedia article about the island itself is a better choice than the link about the Danube delta. Given this arguments, I think that both island name and wikilink should be changed Luis wiki (talk) 15:15, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Rotten Sea islands
Accordingly to the wikipedia article about the Rotten Sea, it is not a sea, despite the name, but, and I quote, "a large system of shallow lagoons". These lagoons are connected to the Sea of Azov by the Velyke Hyrlo river. For the sake of consistency, this entry should be moved to the Lake Islands section Luis wiki (talk) 15:15, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

"one of the shoals in Adam's Bridge" entry
As far as I could search there is no evidence of a permanent land border at high tide. Can someone contribute? I think it is consensual that this entry, besides being dubious, lacks accuracy. At least it should be more accurate than stating "one of the shoals in Adam's Bridge"... Which one? Even if it is unnamed, what are the coordinates? I wonder if this entry should even be in the list... Luis wiki (talk) 15:15, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Unnamed rock in the Little Green Islands archipelago
Technically the unnamed rock at 46°51′35″N 56°05′57″W in the Green Island archipelago in Fortune Bay (https://maps.wikimedia.org/#12/46.8605/-56.1099) is divided between Canada and Saint Pierre and Miquelon (France). Luis wiki (talk) 18:19, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It is interesting if there is a land border between Canada and France. The small islands near 46.85972°N, -56.09917°W are called Little Green Islands in The Atlas of Canada - Toporama. In the Little Green Island article it is written that they are at the maritime border Canada – Saint Pierre and Miquelon. Bu I don't think there is a land border there, it should be possible to find information about that it that was so. --BIL (talk) 21:17, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The March 27, 1972, agreement between Canada and France on their mutual fishing relations determined the demarcation of the limit of their territorial waters. This agreement confirmed Green Island’s location on the Canadian side of the boundary line. The boundary touches two Canadian islands at their low water marks (which are defined as the minimum low tide mark).
 * A U.S. State Department document lists nine turning points on the boundary. Points (4) and (5) touch islands.
 * "'The Annex to the Agreement specified that,
 * 'The line which determines the limit of the territorial waters of Canada and the zones submitted to the fishery jurisdiction of France extends northward and westward in a series of eight connected straight lines joining the following points: ...
 * 'The line which determines the limit of the territorial waters of Canada and the zones submitted to the fishery jurisdiction of France extends northward and westward in a series of eight connected straight lines joining the following points: ...


 * 'Point (4) The low water mark on the south­ westernmost point on Enfant Perdu (Canada). Latitude 46°51'20'N., Longitude 56°05'30'W. approximately.


 * 'Point (5) The low water mark on the west point of the south-westernmost island of the Little Green Island group. Latitude 46°51'36'N., Longitude 56°05'58'W. approximately.'"
 * Point 4 is not equidistant from French and Canadian territory; it is located at the low-water mark off the southwest point of Enfant Perdu, a Canadian islet.
 * Point 4 and 5 are separated by a distance of 0.35 nautical miles. Point 5 is not equidistant from the two sovereignties, but is located at the low-water mark on the west point of the south-westernmost island of the Little Green Island group, which is Canadian.
 * If one does consider this demarcation to give rise to a land boundary, then it exists at one point on each of two islands. The question remains as to whether a point at low water mark is a point on land.
 * Jeff in CA (talk) 21:29, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The coordinate locations stated in the text of the 1972 agreement are described as approximate, meaning that the actual locations described in the wording govern the demarcation. The Google Maps aerial view displays the straight line boundary with endpoints at the stated approximate coordinates for Points 4 and 5, with this boundary line crossing one of the islets comprising the Little Green Islands. This line from Point 4 to Point 5 runs in a northwesterly direction. If one instead uses the Google Maps aerial view to inspect and specify accordingly Point 4 (”the south­ westernmost point”) and Point 5 (”the west point of the south-westernmost island”), the resulting boundary segment also crosses one of the rocky Little Green Islands, which are elongatedly shaped with major axis in a north-to-south-southeast direction. Therefore, a land boundary, estimated at 54 meters in length, seems to exist. Jeff in CA (talk) 09:13, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
 * If one does consider this demarcation to give rise to a land boundary, then it exists at one point on each of two islands. The question remains as to whether a point at low water mark is a point on land.
 * Jeff in CA (talk) 21:29, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The coordinate locations stated in the text of the 1972 agreement are described as approximate, meaning that the actual locations described in the wording govern the demarcation. The Google Maps aerial view displays the straight line boundary with endpoints at the stated approximate coordinates for Points 4 and 5, with this boundary line crossing one of the islets comprising the Little Green Islands. This line from Point 4 to Point 5 runs in a northwesterly direction. If one instead uses the Google Maps aerial view to inspect and specify accordingly Point 4 (”the south­ westernmost point”) and Point 5 (”the west point of the south-westernmost island”), the resulting boundary segment also crosses one of the rocky Little Green Islands, which are elongatedly shaped with major axis in a north-to-south-southeast direction. Therefore, a land boundary, estimated at 54 meters in length, seems to exist. Jeff in CA (talk) 09:13, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

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香山島實際上可說不存在！
https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%A6%99%E5%B1%B1%E5%B2%9B
 * 維基條目: 香山島 鬼臉錢 (talk) 14:16, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Google English translation of the above link: Xiangshan Island

Zhongshan Dao is the Chinese Song Dynasty located before Pearl a seaport in the West Bank islands, and now the mainland connected. The main part of Xiangshan Island includes Wugui Mountain and its nearby hills, plains and seashore, covering an area of ​​more than 300 square kilometers. According to the "Taiping Huanyu Ji" written by the Music History of the Northern Song Dynasty, the "land is full of fairy flowers, so it is called Xiangshan." Later, due to the alluvial action of the Xijiang and Beijiang tributaries of the Pearl River, the new delta plain gradually advanced to the sea. After the Song Dynasty, the western and northern parts of Xiangshan Island gradually formed an alluvial plain with a network of rivers, and Xiangshan became a land connected to the mainland.

Zhongshan Island Some English georeference books record an island called Zhongshan Island (Zhongshan Island), the location is similar to the former Xiangshan Island. They claim that the island has a population of 2.3 million and Macau is located at the southern tip of the island. In fact, Zhongshan City, Zhuhai City, and Macao Special Administrative Region are regarded as an island, with the Pearl River waterway as the boundary.

Jeff in CA (talk) 06:56, 6 May 2021 (UTC)