Talk:List of extinct animals of the Netherlands

Salmo trutta fario
Fluri (Revision as of 01:07, 1 January 2006) changed Salmo trutta fario into Salmo trutta. I've changed it back, because the official Dutch 2004 Red List of Threatened Species, published by the Dutch government, list this lost animal as a subspecies, namely: Salmo trutta fario. Salmo trutta trutta (Sea trout) could previously also be found on the Dutch Red List, but has been removed in 2004. Pmaas 19:11, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Name
I think the current name of this article is badly phrased, whouldn't it be better as List of animals extinct in the Netherlands since for the most part they are not extinct animals, they are animals that don't occur in the Netherlands anymore.--Peta 02:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * That could be done, I have not really an objection to that, but than the same has to be done with the other countries, as they also start with "List of extinct animals...". Peter Maas 15:34, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Technically, a species that is "extinct" from a limited region is said to be extirpated. Extinct is only used if there is no specimens left anywhere. I've looked at some "Extinct" pages elsewhere, and they seem to exclude extirpated species. Still, we should not overdo the use of "extirpate" as most people are unaware of the biological meaning.
 * A list of extirpated species in the Netherlands would be quite interesting, but it would need more sources. --Mlewan (talk) 10:33, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

why are there animals that are not extinct?
why there are a lot of animals that are not extinct on this page?


 * Well that's because this is a nonsense list. The term 'extinct' is used in most of these pages in the wrong way. They mean with 'extinct': species that have been observed once ( in historical time, so max. past 200 years) and that now are not observed anymore. This does not mean that the taxa are not present anymore, they have not been observed anymore. These are also NOT extinct, but 'disappeared' from the region. In most cases the time of observation has been too short to even conclude for a local extinction. Conservationalists and ecologists almost always lack knowledge of the fossil record (including the record of the recent Holocene!!!). A static view of the world is also very commonly present. --Tom Meijer 12:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Another remark. If this page was about extinct species, hundreds even thousands of taxa should be added. This makes no sense at all--Tom Meijer 12:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Wild cat
The wild cat was extinct before de 1950's, but now a few wild cats are discovered again, and is officially not extinct anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mweites (talk • contribs) 12:56, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Nonsensical statement
"Once these birds were very common in the Netherlands, but their number decreased fast in the 20th century. 1891 was the first year that no White Stork bred in the Netherlands."

If none bred since 1891,  then surely the period of rapid decline was the 19th,  not the 20th century.Eregli bob (talk) 07:48, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

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