Talk:List of films considered the worst/Archive 15

Kartoffelsalat - nicht fragen
Shouldn't the movie "Kartoffelsalat - nicht fragen" from 2015 be in it? In Autumn 2015 it was Nr. 1 in the IMDB Bottom 100-Rating and has a rating of 1,3 based on 6869 votes. In Germany it was duscussed as one of the worst movies of all times, especially due to the lack of quality and the casting of famous German YouTubers. 2003:E4:BF38:AEF0:40C8:B17A:CAC4:1E93 (talk) 03:56, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * From the top of the talk page
 * Cite at least one of those sources (Preferably the most reliable one(s)) that explicitly calls it "one of the worst films ever"
 * Also, per WP:USERG, imdb user ratings aren't reliable. DonQuixote (talk) 21:37, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Here are some sources:

- https://www.welt.de/regionales/hamburg/article146113080/Kartoffelsalat-ist-schlechtester-Film-der-Welt.html (German newspaper Welt has the words "worst movie in the world" in the title, often refers to IMDB ratings, like many of the websites) - https://www.t-online.de/unterhaltung/kino/id_75340624/-kartoffelsalat-ist-der-schlechteste-film-der-welt.html (Headline of T-Online: "Kartoffelsalat is the worst movie in the world") - https://www.moviebreak.de/stories/4982/der-beste-der-schlechten-kartoffelsalat-regiert-die-bottom-100-der-imdb (Same here: "Kartoffelsalat is ruiling the Botton 100 of IMDB) - https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/kartoffelsalat-in-der-imdb-zu-recht-der-schlechteste-film-a-1051728.html (A review of Der Spiegel, discussing if this is really the worst movie) - https://www.tonspion.de/news/kartoffelsalat-der-schlechteste-film-der-welt-im-stream (negative review from the media site Tonspion) - https://www.moviepilot.de/news/noch-schlechterer-kartoffelsalat-der-schlechteste-deutsche-film-wird-fortgesetzt-1120960 (Moviepilot is explaining that the worst German movie is getting a sequel, which was received more positively) - https://rp-online.de/kultur/film/die-schlechtester-film-aller-zeiten-kartoffelsalat-auf-platz-1_aid-22047221 (RP Online, a respective website, is discussing the movie and is explaining that this low budget movie is "the worst movie of all times" - https://www.mediasteak.com/kartoffelsalat/ (here it is described as "The worst movie of all times - almost"). - https://www.tvmovie.de/news/nee-echt-kartoffelsalat-ist-der-schlechteste-film-aller-zeiten-85175 (TV Movie, the German equivalet to the TV guide, is calling it also "the worst movie of all times") - https://www.rtl.de/cms/der-wohl-schlechteste-film-aller-zeiten-bekommt-eine-fortsetzung-kartoffelsalat-3-4598776.html (RTL reports about the sequel and mentionst hat "The worst movie of all times will get a sequel") - https://www.filmstarts.de/nachrichten/18530426.html (Filmstarts reports "The really worst movie of all times is now avalable on Amazon Prime".)
 * Hope this helps. To be fair: IMDB does have influence on the description of movies. Like in America Rotten Tomatoes is often referd, IMDB is also often mentioned.

Are these links reliable sources? --2003:E4:BF38:AEFC:E129:3757:98C3:B59D (talk) 19:42, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Can't verify what the first two say (cookies required), so I can't really make a judgment on those (I'll trust your word on those). The third one says, "Inwieweit all diejenigen, die den Film bewertet haben, sich das Werk auch tatsächlich angesehen haben, ist allerdings nicht bekannt." which tells you that imdb user ratings are unreliable. The rest of the sources are probably good enough per your quotes (haven't personally checked them yet, so I can't add it to the list myself). DonQuixote (talk) 21:56, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I worry that almost all of these sources are simply referencing the IMDb rating, they're not actually providing personal assessments of the film.LM2000 (talk) 15:37, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Star Wars
While almost certainly not one of the worst films of all time, Star Wars Episode 1 The Phantom Menace until roughly 3 years ago was widely hated on in both internet and social circles. Mike Nelson from MST3K considered it one of the "worst films of all time" and many other people called it the most disappointing. Despite myself thinking these are massive hyperboles, that doesn't change the fact that for a long time, hundreds of fans felt this way. Unironically. So if there are some sources I can find, or others, then as much as it makes me roll my eyes to suggest, but it might need to be put in here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.41.187.160 (talk) 11:27, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I personally don't think that's a good idea. At the time of writing, the film has a 52% on Rotten Tomatoes, won only one Razzie and it's Wikipedia page describes the reception as 'mixed'. For a film to be included, it must be considered the 'worst' by a sizable portion of people. That means less than 10% on Rotten Tomatoes, been nominated and/or won for a number of razzies, and a 'negative reception' listed on its page. These guidelines are fairly loose, and in some cases can be ignored entirely, but comparing The Phantom Menace to any of this is futile. Also, 'most disappointing' has a very different meaning to worst, and then of 'all time', not just Star Wars. You can have a look around all you want, but the chances of finding a reliable source listing it as one of the worst of all time is futile. 137.111.165.22 (talk) 08:52, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It absolutely is not considered one of the “worst” movies of all time, except by a vocal minority of haters. This isn’t an article about “films with large hatedoms”, otherwise we’d have to include Captain Marvel, a “certified fresh” film, because misogynists review-bombed it. Also, “until [~3] years ago” i.e. it’s been heavily rehabilitated in its reputation and not because of cuts etc. or by becoming a cult classic “so bad it’s good” film. Dronebogus (talk) 09:02, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Many cult classics have won this status through an appeal to genre fans, not necessarily through "so bad it’s good" status. The Phantom Menace is "the lowest-rated live-action film of the Star Wars series" (as noted in the main article), but the main article includes glowing reviews by critics who were impressed with it. And the film was included in a list of the "500 Greatest Movies of All Time". Dimadick (talk) 11:36, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Ratatoing
An infamous 44 minute long animated movie made in 2007 by a lazy Brazilian movie company Vídeo Brinquedo, who can’t think of their own ideas, so they rip-off Disney, Pixar, 20th Century Fox, Blue Sky Studios, Dreamworks, Paramount and other major movie companies to make money. In this case, the Pixar movie Ratatouille is ripped off. Ratatoing has also become a popular target of YouTube Poops and an internet meme. 2600:1008:B064:3598:3908:A116:B921:A249 (talk) 13:16, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * From the top of the talk page
 * Ensure that it is widely considered one of the worst films by a broad spectrum of both casual and professional film critics. There are hundreds of "bad" or even "crappy" films, this page is for the worst.
 * Cite at least one of those sources (Preferably the most reliable one(s)) that explicitly calls it "one of the worst films ever"
 * DonQuixote (talk) 13:43, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Ratatoing has terrible animation, voice acting, loads of padding and one of the main characters keeps saying the wirh PRECISELY over and over again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1008:B064:3598:3908:A116:B921:A249 (talk) 15:53, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You still need to cite reliable sources stating something like "one of the worst films ever". DonQuixote (talk) 16:00, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree it’s one of the worst films ever (and love it for that) but no sources are provided Dronebogus (talk) 01:09, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Finding Jesus
The 70 minute “movie” made in 2020 of a lazy movie company that can’t think of their own ideas, so they ripoff Disney, Pixar, 20th Century Fox, Blue Sky and Dreamworks to make money, in this case, the 2003 movie “Finding Nemo” is plagiarized. It is also a racist Christian movie. It also has a sequel that was only made to punish you for loving the movie this one is ripping off over it. 2600:1008:B074:EF27:5C94:5351:7937:5B16 (talk) 00:39, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you have citations stating that this is one of the worst movies ever made, or did you just personally not like it? Bkatcher (talk) 02:40, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

"By genre"
Why does this section exist? This article is a list of films considered the worst of all time regardless of genre. This seems like a way to work some removed films back into the list, such as The Emoji Movie. As points out in the thread above this one, that film has been discussed at least a dozen times with no consensus to include.LM2000 (talk) 13:43, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, since the best films article have one, why not? Espngeek (talk) 16:30, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * That article is entirely organized by genre, not by date. It doesn't make sense to have some films sorted by date and some by genre in the same article. CodeTalker (talk) 16:33, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree that the By genre section doesn't belong in this article. Even if the movies in this section did warrant inclusion in the article, why would they go in the genre section vs. the date section? There are animated films in the date section (like Titanic: The Legend Goes On) as well as in the Animation genre section; there are horror films in the date section (like Maniac) as well as in the Horror genre section; there are superhero films in the date section (like Batman & Robin) as well as in the Superhero genre section, etc. The By genre section makes no sense to me. CodeTalker (talk) 16:32, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

I agree with the removal of this section but do believe Fantastic Four (which was listed under this category) should still be on this list. I saw a previous post here discussing Morbius and people were not in favor of it being here (neither am I), so how do we feel about FF? CyberAlexMM (talk) 15:07, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Morbius (2022)
I find it insulting that Morbius 2022 is not on this list. It has a critical rating of 15% on Rotten Tomatoes, and a 5.2 on IMDB, but unlike other terrible movies, it had a big impact. I would definitely place it on the same level as 2010's "The Last Airbender" in metrics of 'bad' and 'well known' which is important. I have a feeling it will be nominated for the Razzie awards as well. It's simply perfect for the list. Numerous review publications will tell you it's poorly paced, flat, makes no sense whatsoever, so bad you can sue, terrible CGI, etc... And people love to mock it. It bombed twice for heaven's sake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bing Soy (talk • contribs) 13:54, 10 November 2022 (UTC)


 * From the top of the talk page
 * Ensure that it is widely considered one of the worst films by a broad spectrum of both casual and professional film critics. There are hundreds of "bad" or even "crappy" films, this page is for the worst.
 * Cite at least one of those sources (Preferably the most reliable one(s)) that explicitly calls it "one of the worst films ever"
 * DonQuixote (talk) 15:24, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * A small selection of reviews:
 * https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/03/31/morbius-is-one-of-the-worst-reviewed-superhero-movies-of-all-time/?sh=45696be67658
 * https://thedirect.com/article/morbius-marvel-movie-audience-score
 * https://www.techradar.com/news/morbius-is-being-slammed-as-the-worst-marvel-movie-ever
 * https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/morbius
 * https://www.thepostathens.com/article/2022/09/morbius-film-review-jared-leto-matt-smith
 * https://www.ign.com/articles/morbius-review
 * https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/01/morbius-reviews-spider-man-spin-off-is-bad.html
 * https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-reviews/morbius-review-jared-leto-marvel-1328700/
 * https://www.metacritic.com/movie/morbius
 * https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/mar/31/morbius-review-ludicrously-pointless-jekyll-and-hyde-vampire-monster-yarn
 * https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5108870/
 * Keep in Mind: This movie is one where user reviews can not be trusted 100%, because so many people 'positive review bomb' it in their '#morbiussweep' and '#getthemfries' campaign which sways the data significantly. Even with this alteration of votes, it still comes off as mediocre. Bing Soy (talk) 15:32, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Upon a quick skim of the contents
 * ❌forbes: worst reviewed superhero movie ≠ worst movie
 * ❌thedirect: Second-Worst Audience Score ≠ casual and professional film critics
 * ❌techrader: worst Marvel movie ever ≠ worst movie
 * ❌rottentomatoes
 * ✅thepostathens: one of the greatest trainwrecks out there in terms of film
 * ❌cnbc
 * ❌rollingstone:worst of [Marvel] films ≠ worst movie
 * ❌metacritic
 * ❌theguardian: pointless and dumb film ≠ worst movie
 * ❌imdb: see WP:USERG
 * You need sources that actually call it one of the worst films ever (or words to that effect). Anything less than that falls way below the bar. DonQuixote (talk) 20:51, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Some additional sources that might better fit the narrative that Morbius is specifically a bad movie, not merely a bad superhero movie.:
 * The Ringer - "Sony has distributed a film that is so breathtakingly terrible, and so excruciating to watch, that it could be mistaken for one of the 10 plagues of Egypt. I truly believe that Morbius’s opening weekend is the three days of darkness foretold in the Bible."
 * GeekTyrant - "I was shocked by how awful it was. It’s one of the worst movies of the year and I have yet to meet anyone that actually liked the movie."
 * Daily Targum - "This movie is bad and done in the worst way possible."
 * The Tab - "These 18 Morbius memes are so good they almost make up for it being the worst film ever made."
 * The Daily Nonpareil - "“Morbius” earns one out of five buckets of popcorn for being one the worst movies I have ever seen."
 * LoudWire - "literally the worst movie ive ever watched" - Arkham Remaster
 * L.A. Times - "...a misbegotten, artistically bankrupt bid..." "An over-reliance on special effects is all too common in filmmaking today. And “Morbius” might be the worst-looking of them all."
 * The Disinsider - "“Morbius” is a top-to-bottom disaster, with some of the worst “superhero” (if you can call it like that) action ever put to film and a superficial story leaving little to be desired."
 * Cinemablend - "Morbius is a movie that is so creatively bankrupt and lacking in entertainment that I feel compelled to actively implore anyone reading this review to not purchase a ticket and let it die a quick, flopping death. There is no fun to be had here; there isn’t any ironic or “so bad it’s good” enjoyment. It’s soulless. It’s oozing, tar-like gunk that has been spit out of the Hollywood machine, and you should avoid stepping in it." Bing Soy (talk) 19:51, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * After a quick skim
 * The Ringer: a film that is so breathtakingly terrible ≠ worst movie
 * GeekTyrant: one of the worst movies of the year ≠ worst movie ever
 * ✅ The Tab: the worst film ever made
 * ✅ The Daily Nonpariel: one the worst movies I have ever seen
 * LoudWire/ArkhamRemaster: ArkhamRemaster = WP:USERG
 * LA Times: worst-looking of them all ≠ worst movie
 * The Disinsider = fan site
 * Cinemablend: a movie that is so creatively bankrupt and lacking in entertainment ≠ worst movie
 * If you have to bend over backwards to find sources, then it's probably not notable in-and-of-itself. DonQuixote (talk) 05:36, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I feel the criteria you are using may be on the pedantic side, but I understand where you are coming from. I'm sure we can agree to disagree, but I say we at least keep it open for discussion till the Razzies. If it doesn't get an award for being bad, then I'll concede that it's probably not bad enough. Otherwise, it might be too hasty to say. It did only come out this year after all. Bing Soy (talk) 19:08, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * From the top of the talk page There are hundreds of "bad" or even "crappy" films, this page is for the worst.
 * Look, if you have to dig through pages of google to get any sources, then it probably isn't one of the worst. If most of the reviews on the first page of google search literary call it "the worst", then it's probably is one of the worst. DonQuixote (talk) 20:40, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Here's a similar discussion on the opposite end of the spectrum: Talk:The Dark Knight. Also, see WP:DUE. DonQuixote (talk) 12:49, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Morbius, it's officially a contender for the Razzies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW4k1OOK2-4 192.107.137.167 (talk) 15:02, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

The Emoji Movie
This film is considered one of the worst animated films of all time, has a 7% precent on Rotten Tomatoes, and has been reviewed as being one of the worst by causal and professional critics alike 68.200.168.214 (talk) 23:32, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * This movie has previously been discussed at least 12 times previously without consensus to include it (see previous discussions here and here). If you have multiple reliable sources that directly call this one of the worst movies ever made, you can present them here for discussion. CodeTalker (talk) 23:43, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Plenty of reliable sources panning this as the worst movie of 2017 and the 'Mac and Me' of the iphone generation. If Cats is included on this list (19% of RT), then the Emoji Movie should be here too. MrBipson101 (talk) 15:45, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Like @CodeTalker stated, we need multiple reliable sources that call it directly the worst movie ever made. Wikipedia is written based on what reliable sources have written. If that source doesn't exist, then those statements do not get added to Wikipedia.  Mike  Allen  16:10, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I've mentioned on this talk page before that this article is one of the best administered on the entire site. If only other corners of Wikipedia were so well policed. I found a few sources for "Cats" and with working with other editors had it approved. My suggestion is to do a lot of finding sources beyond Rotten Tomatoes. That site isn't enough for inclusion Research the film's reviews, with all the right phrasing required to prove that it's considered onev of the worst films ever made, and you've got a chance. Cats" had the sources and enough of the right words. I'm certain "Emoji" will have if you look hard enough 11:25, 19 December 2022 (UTC)￼ doktorb wordsdeeds 11:25, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Needs serious editing
Apparently, after the adoption of the Internet by large amounts of people (2000+), several films every year are considered the worst ever. I get it you kids, some movies are bad, but they don't all deserve to be on this page. If every bad movie is put on this page, "worst" means nothing. This page needs some serious trimming. Mercster (talk) 17:47, 30 January 2023 (UTC)


 * You are welcome to trim any of the material you see fit.   Mike   Allen  17:50, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

2025: The World Enslaved by Virus (2021)
The film is currently the lowest rated movie on Letterboxd and recieved overwhelmingly negative reviews. MKultra1020 (talk) 17:44, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

No Incubus?
I'm surprised Incubus didn't make the list. ;-) Despite the faint praise listed in the Wikipedia entry, I've yet to encounter anyone who didn't find the film bloody awful. Kevin Cole (talk) 20:17, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

DOA: Dead or Alive (2006)
The film, DOA: Dead or Alive, is developed a cult following through home video releases and has been described as a cult classic. 2001:48F8:300B:3DB:D731:1600:3045:D274 (talk) 06:05, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


 * 33% on Rotten Tomatoes is nowhere near even a "bad" film like The Emoji Movie. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 06:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

The Little Mermaid (2023)
The Little Mermaid (2023) is infamous and considered one of the worst films ever made.

This film is just like Batman & Robin (1997) and Battlefield Earth (2000). 2001:48F8:300B:3DB:41A3:88D7:67FA:E982 (talk) 04:20, 20 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I can't comment here, but the one thing I will say is that the 2020s section could be in need of update with newer films. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 06:24, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

The Cat in the Hat (2003)
The 2003 movie The Cat In the Hat was so bad that Dr. Seuss's widow will not allow any more live-action adaptations of her late husband's work. 2001:48F8:300B:3DB:98A5:36AC:C3A:3497 (talk) 22:21, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


 * It would be helpful if you and everyone above started citing reputable sources that literally contain the phrase "worst film". DonQuixote (talk) 23:14, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

What movie could we put on the list of the 2020s?
I say this because it says in the article that requires expansion. So I ask you a simple question.

Any movie ideas you can post? Izan De Assís (talk) 19:10, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm going to go ahead and remove that tag. There's really no reason to expect "worst" candidates to occur on a linear basis and even the editor that added the tag said that they didn't "know of any serious candidates".LM2000 (talk) 19:26, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * How about the lowest rated movie on Letterboxd for over two years?
 * https://boxd.it/2W7QS 2603:6000:DC00:F205:857A:C879:A323:6B7B (talk) 03:49, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * No. You need to cite a reputable source that uses the phrase "worst film" at least once. DonQuixote (talk) 12:49, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Released in 2020, Run Hide Fight had received negative reviews from critics, which it got 38% on Rotten Tomatoes and got Metacritic 13 out of 100, indicating “Overwhelming Dislike”. 166.196.58.13 10:52, 2 July 2023
 * You need to cite a reputable source that uses the phrase "worst film" at least once. DonQuixote (talk) 16:24, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I recently found the source on Submit News talking about Daily Wire’s debut film:
 * https://summitpsnews.org/2021/11/05/ben-shapiros-debut-film-run-hide-fight-is-the-worst-action-movie-of-the-year/

166.196.58.13 (talk) 19:28, 2 July 2023 (UTC)


 * "Student-produced news from Summit Public Schools"
 * If that's the first-and-only source that you can find, you're probably wasting everyone's time. DonQuixote (talk) 19:53, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Them (2021)
what a stinker. The movie directed by Ignacio Maiso. Not the tv show. Can't find much about it online, guess it sank silently in the pandemic - but it's notable in that it was even worse than most of the other "pandemic specials" that were a result of draconian lockdown requirements. Zaphraud (talk) 02:53, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * You need to cite a reputable source that uses the phrase 'worst film'. DonQuixote (talk) 10:30, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

The Snowman
https://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/worst-movie-2010s-the-snowman-netflix-top-10-2117390/

https://screencrush.com/worst-movies-of-the-2010s/

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/the-snowman-michael-fassbender-netflix.html

https://www.metacritic.com/pictures/worst-movies-of-2017/9 142.161.77.32 (talk) 23:46, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Article needs a LOT of revision, and maybe even deletion?
Far too many "poor films" listed in this article - as opposed to truly awful films. Likewise also a lot of very minor B movies. And that, surely, is not the point of this article? A lot of the films need removing as cinematically insignificant. And, maybe, given that this is a "list"... the whole thing should just be deleted. 37.250.141.158 (talk) 21:57, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I've said this before and I'll say it again: this article is one of the best policed articles of its kind on Wikipedia. If you monitor the talk page for long enough you'll see just how many proposals are rejected and how many citations are needed for entry. I worked with other editors to ensure "Cats" was included, and it wasn't easy. This article will always need tidying, but deletion is simply for the birds. doktorb wordsdeeds 23:28, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the list is just fine.LM2000 (talk) 12:06, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 September 2023
The Cat in the Hat (2003)

An adaptation of Dr. Seuss' 1957 book of the same name, The Cat in the Hat stars Mike Myers in the title role. The film was widely criticised for it's screenplay, over use of adult humor, lack of faithfulness to the source material, performances (particularly Myers') and the appearance of the title character. Peter Travers of Rolling Stone gave the film one star, stating: "Cat, another overblown Hollywood raid on Dr. Seuss, has a draw on Mike Myers, who inexplicably plays the Cat by mimicking Bert Lahr in The Wizard of Oz." Roger Ebert of The Chicago Sun-Times gave the film two out of four stars. Although he praised the production design, he considered the film to be "all effects and stunts and CGI and prosthetics, with no room for lightness and joy". Ebert and co-host Richard Roeper gave the film "Two Thumbs Down" on their weekly movie review program. Roeper said of Myers' performance that "maybe a part of him was realizing as the movie was being made that a live-action version of The Cat in the Hat just wasn't a great idea." Ebert compared the film unfavorably to How the Grinch Stole Christmas: "If there is one thing I've learned from these two movies, it's that we don't want to see Jim Carrey as a Grinch, and we don't want to see Mike Myers as a cat. These are talented comedians, let's see them do their stuff, don't bury them under a ton of technology." The film holds the 10% on Rotten Tomatoes with the consensus reading "Filled with double entendres and potty humor, this Cat falls flat." Audrey Geisel, Suess' widow, decided not to allow any live action adaptations of her late husband's work, ending Myers' plans for a sequel. Epikvik (talk) 03:29, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Too good for this list; appears on Talk:List of films considered the worst/Removed films.LM2000 (talk) 08:34, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 October 2023
75.188.34.162 (talk) 01:31, 11 October 2023 (UTC) Marmaduke (2022) This computer-animated comedy film was universally panned by critics at its May 2022 release. It has a 0% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes. One critic said “Marmaduke is a steaming pile of poop. If you step into this movie, you’d need a stick to scrape squished Marmaduke from the treads of your shoes. As the saying goes, you can’t polish a turd - but it doesn’t seem like anyone here ever tried,”
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Pinchme123 (talk) 15:07, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Is The Snowman being considered? No reply (see above)
Just wondering if there is movement here? This movie is building momentum on being one of the worst movies ever made. It was also on the podcast HDTYM if that helps. Also lots of article discussing it. 142.161.77.32 (talk) 05:02, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You provided four sources for The Snowman (repeating them here): https://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/worst-movie-2010s-the-snowman-netflix-top-10-2117390/ https://screencrush.com/worst-movies-of-the-2010s/ https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/the-snowman-michael-fassbender-netflix.html https://www.metacritic.com/pictures/worst-movies-of-2017/9The last one describes the movie as one of the worst of 2017. The previous one describes it as one of the worst of "the last decade". The other two decribe it as one of the worst of the 2010s. None of them describes the movie as one of the worst of all time, so it won't be added to this article unless you can find sources that describe it as one of the worst of all time. CodeTalker (talk) 02:28, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * https://amp.barstoolsports.com/blog/867544/yes-the-rumors-are-true-the-snowman-is-the-worst-movie-of-all-time
 * https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/10/19/16503550/snowman-review-fassbender-all-the-clues
 * https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/movies/2017/10/19/16505412/the-snowman-michael-fassbender-review
 * https://www.reddit.com/r/netflix/comments/12y4byl/the_snowman_netflix_viewers_in_disbelief_as_awful/
 * any of these help? 142.161.78.240 (talk) 06:04, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Request for renaming
I noticed that the page’s title is inconsistent with the other list of worsts, which include List of video games notable for negative reception and List of television shows notable for negative reception. Therefore, I think it should be moved. Sounds more encyclopedic, anyway. 2600:1006:B06A:CF87:9178:53ED:5914:901D (talk) 19:45, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Question
How many reliable sources must explicitly call a movie the worst or one of the worst for it to qualify for the list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheOmniDex (talk • contribs) 12:26, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Here's a rule of thumb, if you have to actively search for a minimum number of sources, then it's probably not considered by enough people to be one of the worst films ever made. If, on the other hand, the first page of a Google search is filled with reputable sources calling it the worst, then it's probably a good candidate. DonQuixote (talk) 12:44, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

OK, thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheOmniDex (talk • contribs) 13:44, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

But what's the minimum number of sources I could use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheOmniDex (talk • contribs) 14:45, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Two or three highly reputable sources like Sight and Sound or 10 to 20 renown critics or about 100 listicles. See WP:DUE. DonQuixote (talk) 15:01, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Would reccomend that Emoji/In Popular Culture gets updated then as it says:
 * "On July 28, 2017, Sony Pictures Animation released The Emoji Movie, a 3D computer animated movie featuring the voices of Patrick Stewart, Christina Aguilera, Sofía Vergara, Anna Faris, T. J. Miller, and other notable actors and comedians. It was universally panned, and is considered to be one of the worst films of all time."
 * I can't do it, due to the page being semi-protected. Carl4020 (talk) 12:55, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Apologies, posted it the wrong place Carl4020 (talk) 12:56, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Alright — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheOmniDex (talk • contribs) 15:18, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

The Emoji Movie
Why isn't The Emoji Movie on the list? Stein256 (talk) 02:03, 18 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Search archives  Mike  Allen   02:19, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * And check the list of films removed from this list.LM2000 (talk) 13:48, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Would reccomend that Emoji/In Popular Culture gets updated then as it says:
 * "On July 28, 2017, Sony Pictures Animation released The Emoji Movie, a 3D computer animated movie featuring the voices of Patrick Stewart, Christina Aguilera, Sofía Vergara, Anna Faris, T. J. Miller, and other notable actors and comedians. It was universally panned, and is considered to be one of the worst films of all time."
 * I can't do it, due to the page being semi-protected
 * Carl4020 (talk) 12:57, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ DonQuixote (talk) 14:25, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Son of the Mask
I think this warrants its own mention on the list, it’s ranked among the worst by various sources, as well as one of the worst sequels of all time. Richard Roeper also said it’s the closest he came during the first 5 years of hosting Ebert and Roeper to walking out halfway through. https://www.watchmojo.com/amp/articles/top-100-worst-movies-of-all-time]https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?groups=bottom_100&sort=user_rating,asc] https://www.buzzfeed.com/lizmrichardson/bad-movie-sequels-reddit]https://screencrush.com/worst-sequels-ever/] Themostoriginalusernameever (talk) 16:15, 8 December 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Themostoriginalusernameever (talk • contribs) 16:20, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You will need better sources than Buzzfeed, Watchmojo and IMDB. See WP:RSP.LM2000 (talk) 03:12, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Removing misleading Chicago Tribune review of 'Chaos' as citation for 'Maniac' section
(Referring to ) Here's the full quote with context from the cited Chicago Tribune article, which isn't even about the film Maniac: "I wouldn't say 'Chaos' is the worst movie I've ever seen. There are some voyages into ineptitude, like Dwain Esper's anti-classic 'Maniac,' that defy all reason. But 'Chaos' definitely gave me the worst time I've had at a movie in years--and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone but my worst enemies. Even then, I'd flinch." You can't use this quote to support the statement Chicago Tribune critic Michael Wilmington wrote that it may be the worst film he had ever sees (he didn't write that), so I'm removing this citation entirely. --Ernstkm (talk) 01:23, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

would yall update the article?
like lets not pretend 365 Days and its sequels were the only worst things for the 20's section... im sure from 2021-present theres been plenty of worsts that have been out... this list needs to be updated, so please tend to it. 173.27.192.174 (talk) 03:40, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2024
Fixing up some typos in Exorcist II: The Heretic EditortheRedditor (talk) 23:53, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 00:25, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Move
I think this page should be moved to List of films notable for negative reception, in order to be more consistent with Wikipedia’s other lists of worsts. 2600:1006:B053:C936:ECD0:E6EC:9961:E593 (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @2600:1006:B053:C936:ECD0:E6EC:9961:E593 nah its fine where its at 173.27.192.174 (talk) 03:41, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
 * This move has failed more than once. It's fine where it is.LM2000 (talk) 04:16, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks (this is the guy who wrote the original suggestion) 2600:1006:B01D:13C5:F047:4A8:B99B:91C7 (talk) 23:39, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Winnie The Pooh: Blood and Honey
During the 2020s, there hasn't been too many examples of the worst. However, Winnie The Pooh: Blood and Honey seems to be a potential contender worth considering due to the following factors...

-One of the lowest rated films on Rotten Tomatoes with 3% at #68 lower passing other movies labeled here like Bucky Larson, Movie 43, and The Last Airbender

-Nominated for a plethora of Razzies this year including Worst Picture and is considered to many as the frontrunner (This we'll have wait and see if that actually happens)

-Couple of other reviews that label it as the worst

Shawn Paul Wood of The Cinema Spot writes "As anyone can tell, Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey is one of the worst movies ever made. And, by the looks of its dazzling lack of antipathy for protecting its copyright, Disney knew it."

Matt Villei of Collider writes "If these reviews are anything to go by, the film might find itself in a spot of bother as it is being called one of the worst horror movies ever, though some predicted that, from its low quality, the film could garner a cult following similar to Tommy Wiseau's disasterpiece, The Room"

Scott Campbell of We Got This Covered titles his review "‘Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey’ officially – and deservedly – named one of the worst movies ever made" alongside a following article covering it solidifying it as one of the worst movies ever made

So I feel there's enough evidence to at the very least put it under consideration for this page, if it wins Worst Picture it adds further evidence for its reason to be here. Thank you for taking your time in reading this and I'll be interested in your decision regardless! Dragonsblood23 (talk) 06:26, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I think you've got a good chance! The use of the word "worst" is what matters and there are enough examples. Fingers crossed. doktorb wordsdeeds 07:07, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * This is a rare suggestion that actually has potential. Great job!LM2000 (talk) 04:18, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
 * It just sweep the Razzies, so I think that's enough proof to add this on the page. Dc55555 (talk) 18:53, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * A well-deserved Razzie for the knock-off of Pooj the Fat Honey Bear ;) Espngeek (talk) 19:06, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Madame Web
It's an early contender but I think there's some interesting sources that could warrant it for the list eventually.

Harrison Brocklehurst called it "Truly one of the worst films of all time - and yet I loved every stupid second of Madame Web. (...) Madame Web deserves its dragging and it will go down in history as one of the biggest disasters on screen in recent memory. But that’s exactly why I loved it: Being a part of history and seeing such a hilariously, entertainingly dreadful film can bring nothing but joy when you go in there ready for it.

The Daily Beast dubbed it "Offically the Worst Superhero movie of All Time"

A review from Rolling Stone called it "the Cats: The Movie of superhero movies", suggesting that "not a single decision seems of sound mind". He continued, "A genuine Chernobyl-level disaster that seems to get exponentially more radioactive as it goes along, this detour to one of the dustier corners of Marvel’s content farm is a dead-end from start to finish."

Sam Adams said, "It's a travesty, a disaster, a blight on the history of superheroes and cinema itself."

UPI called it, "A new low for supehero debacles. (...) At least Catwoman and Batman & Robin believed in what they were doing."

Sean O'Connell called it "One of the worst movies ever made, in any genre. (...) It makes MORBIUS look like THE DARK KNIGHT." Themostoriginalusernameever (talk) 00:02, 7 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Do you know, I saw some articles yesterday using the word "worst" about this film and thought this article would like to know. Inclusion on this article is tough, it's the hardest and most regulated list on Wikipedia I sometimes think!, though you've got a good chance. doktorb wordsdeeds 04:30, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Along with the Winnie The Pooh: Blood and Honey suggestion above, this is the first time I ever remember two good suggestions in a row. Great work!LM2000 (talk) 10:14, 9 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Is it called the worst of all time? Espngeek (talk) 19:47, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * That's too high a bar to clear. This article asks for enough evidence that it's been called the worst in enough articles/reviews, in enough credible publications. Looking for the exact phrase "worst of all time" would wipe out most of the article. doktorb wordsdeeds 03:47, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

If I could chime in, I feel I'd wait til the end of the year/see how it performs in The Razzies to see if it still highlights in that worst category or if its something that's onpar with Morbius after all, its only been a month since its release so who knows what might come around this year if anything. -Dragonsblood23 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonsblood23 (talk • contribs) 05:10, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Jaws: The Revenge
I bring this here because it has been removed many times before, at least going back 14 years according to Talk:List of films considered the worst/Removed films. In the past I have removed it because the only source calling it "one of the worst" was a passing mention in The Independent's the obituary for the film's composer. Although I can't find any source explicitly calling the definitive worst movie ever made, I have found many source that call it "one of the worst", including: The Guardian, ComingSoon.net, MSN, Collider, GameRant, Screen Rant, MTV News, and Bloody Disgusting. It's also the oldest film to be in Rotten Tomatoes top ten worst list, appears in the Empire list, and probably many others.LM2000 (talk) 12:12, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Hannah Montana: The Movie, A film adaptation of Hannah Montana
Hannah Montana: The Movie was panned by critics according to Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic. Miley Cyrus nominated at 30th Golden Raspberry Awards for Hannah Montana: The Movie (Walt Disney Pictures) following critical failure for Hannah Montana: The Movie, but lost to Sandra Bullock for All About Steve (20th Century Fox (now 20th Century Studios)), and Billy Ray Cyrus for Hannah Montana: The Movie (Walt Disney Pictures) won at 30th Golden Raspberry Awards. Hannah Montana: The Movie was box office success. 2001:448A:6000:AE48:C010:2F29:45AF:9375 (talk) 20:31, 7 June 2024 (UTC)