Talk:List of first generation home video game consoles/Archive 1

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Elwro or Ameprod Television Game 10?
Sure, the Television Game 10 was produced first by Elwro, but it was released by Ameprod. I would say, we call it Ameprod Television Game 10 as it's called in the article. I mean, the PlayStation 4 is also produced by Foxconn, but we commonly call it Sony PlayStation 4 because it is released by Sony. What do you think we should call it? Maxeto0910 (talk) 12:55, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Not only was it produced by Elwro, but sold by them from 1978 to 1981. The comparison with Foxconn doesn't make sense because Foxconn never sold the PlayStation 4, they just manufactured it. I think we should call it the Elwro Television Game 10 and mention it was later sold by Ameprod until 1984. Talkkaris (talk) 21:14, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

According to the article, Elwro didn't sell the TVG-10 either, they just manufactured it. This is why I'm so cunfused. Do you have any sources that proof that Elwro also sold the TVG-10 and not only PPZ Ameprod? Maxeto0910 (talk) 22:46, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Elwro did sell it, only source I have is a literal picture of it on a polish sales site https://archiwum.allegro.pl/oferta/ameprod-elwro-tvg-10-konsola-gra-telewizyjna-z-prl-i7641788318.html. This is the unfortunate reality of this article, the majority of them DON'T have sources reliable enough to prove their existence, even when a quick google search proves they do with a lot of images most of the time, so a clean image is good to confirm their phisical existence. Talkkaris (talk) 10:07, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

List based on wikidata
Below is how you will see the list of first generation consoles created using Wikidata information and updating it automatically with Listeria Bot.

The "listeria bot" and the "wikidata list template" do a lot of work together automatically: total counting of games, links to the country's Wikipedia article, links to the manufacturer's Wikipedia article, link to the Wikipedia article of a console, etc ... The data on wikidata are shared between wikipedia of all languages, so as to have a single database shared among all of them easily and jointly maintainable. I think the list is now mature enough to replace the manually generated list. What do you think of this possible replacement? I tried to include all the data from the hand-made list, while correcting some inaccurate data, adding many other consoles and much more information.

The list can also be generated separated by manufacturer as done here. --Arosio Stefano (talk) 17:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC)


 * As can you read here and here, there is no consensus to use wikidata list automatically updated by listeria bot. So I turn off the autogeneration of the list, which can be done by removing the Wikidata list wrapper around the table, and I publish only the listeria bot generated table presents in this talk page.Is there any suggestion? Upset? Something else? --Arosio Stefano (talk) 14:46, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It was probably a useful improvement to replace the initial manually-populated and therefore incomplete list with a copy of the Wikidata list once, but at this point periodically overwriting local changes with relatively minor Wikidata tweaks is not constructive. For example, three different people have had to fill in the bare URLs that get added from Wikidata, as you overwrote the first two such edits when you updated the list. Wikidata can be a useful starting point, but should not be treated as the sole source of truth, which you seem to be doing. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:28, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

&sum; 991 items.