Talk:List of forestry universities and colleges

Forestry programs in South Africa
There was an outdated link to forestry at the University of Natal, now part of the University of KwaZulu-Natal. Best as I can see, today there is only a remnant of a forestry program at the latter, however, with just three faculty members in a forestry concentration in the school's BS in Agriculture program. So even the link to the University of KwaZulu-Natal should probably be removed. Any objections? DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 11:25, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Looked again at University of KwaZulu-Natal. No evidence of a forestry programme there any longer. Entry removed. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 13:48, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Saw on one of the institution's websites a statement that there are 12 forestry programs in South Africa today. Since only four currently are listed here, room for the number of South Africa entries in this article to grow! DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 13:52, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Have added several institutions in S. Africa, based on the national Department of Agriculture, Forests, and Fisheries website. In process of verifying if they offer degrees. Some may note. Assistance welcome! DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 15:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Verified forestry degrees at the five institutions remaining on list for South Africa. Three others removed due to no forestry degrees. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 21:11, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Style question: English or original?
Should school names in languages other than English be presented in this article in translation or original? Currently, this article does both things. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 06:44, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Somewhat related linguistic style question: in French, should the proper name for universities be "L'Université...", including the "L'"? And what about for purposes of alphabetization? forget the "L'"? DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 07:11, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Scope: include 2 yr degree programs?
Should this article also include institutions with two-year, forestry technician degree programs? Or should that be spun off to a separate List of forestry technician programs? DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 07:41, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * P.S. My impression is that quite a few of the schools already on this list actually offer 2-year degrees, not bachelor's and master's degrees, as indicated in the introductory statement. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 07:43, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I think a separate list would make the most sense. From my initial impressions forestry as a trade and forestry as an academic study are two essentially different things, and as such should be distinguished separately. In addition, it seems that most forest tech programs are community college based, where academic study is more based around state universities and the like.--Bfrank72 (talk) 15:16, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Taking another look at the current list, several things seem clear: a) current listings are inconsistent from country to country on what type/ level of institution is listed -- the US list seems to include only universities and colleges, while lists for other countries cover all types of schools; b) the list currently includes research institutes, as well -- it is unclear whether they offer degree or certificate programs; c) it would likely take a non-trivial effort to separate and verify the three lists. Room for greater clarity here. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 17:24, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I've copied the eight or so entries from this article that included the words "research institute" to the List of forest research institutes. I have not deleted them from this list, though, as some may offer degree or certificate programs. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 18:44, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Definitely. I think a greater informational service would be provided if the lists were separated. I'll see if I can't get any work on this done in the next couple of weeks, it would probably be good to map out some sort of outline of what lists/sublists would be most useful before this happens though, just so there is an agreed upon framework to fix existing article classifications. --Bfrank72 (talk) 17:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Right now, I see just three:


 * List of forestry universities and colleges
 * List of forestry technical schools or List of forestry technician programs
 * List of forest research institutes


 * Regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 18:49, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Have made a start with a new article List of forestry technical schools, by copying content from this article and deleting all except for those that, at first examination, look like technical schools. Assistance on that new page most welcome! DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 07:13, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Once the new page sticks and content verified, next step would be to remove forestry technical schools (but not universities and colleges) from this list. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 07:18, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The new page, List of forestry technical schools, seems stable now. So it would be appropriate to proceed now to remove schools that are obviously technical schools from this list... Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 06:37, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Duplicates?
Some likely duplicate entries under "India" in this article. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 17:48, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Clean up
Help needed: removing forestry technical schools, i.e. secondary schools and 2-year degree programs (but not universities and colleges) from this list. See 'Scope', above. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 10:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Some clean up completed (moving/ removing technical schools listed in the List of forestry technical schools); more needed, looking closely at each institution. Note: in some countries "college" refers to a secondary institution. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 12:50, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

thai link blacklisted
www dot forru dot org /en/content dot php?mid=74 is blacklisted no idea why  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.244.74.165 (talk) 14:09, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Some faculties may only do research, but not education of others
What should we do about these? D1gggg (talk) 12:37, 16 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your question, . This list article includes tertiary degree-granting institutions only. Non-degree granting research institutions would be more appropriately included in List of forest research institutes. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 01:02, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merge with List of forest research institutes
Both are related to Forestry Wisal Ahmad (talk) 08:28, 3 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Oppose., thank you for your comment. However there are many articles related to forestry, and even forestry organizations. There's a third related article, too, List of forestry technical schools. The reason that there are three separate articles is that each type of institution has a distinct function. It would be too much to combine them into one mega article. Each is big enough (and incomplete enough) as it is. Better to focus on further developing them. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 21:41, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I agree with the above comment, these are very different kinds of organizations and are connected through "See also". The combined lists would be too difficult to navigate.Jllm06 (talk) 17:26, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

I also oppose this merge as a forestry student. There are clear differences between the three topics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexonatunji (talk • contribs) 15:45, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

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