Talk:List of gay pornography awards

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I'm torn about keeping the recipient list for the Gay Erotic Video Awards separate from this article, but it's too large, in my opinion, to have to scroll past to get to other things on this page. Comments? &mdash; Chidom   talk   07:45, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Proposal to split the article
There has been a move to remove duplicate wiki-links from this list. To avoid any complication, I suggest the list is split out for this reason with at least the more lengthy listings separated. This will ensure that it remains easy to see which names have BLP articles available. Ash (talk) 19:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what the issue is but it seems like that's a solution looking for a problem and may cause other problems. Frankly the only way to see if there is a BLP person linked is to look at their article to see if, as far as we know, they are still living. -- Banj e  b oi   20:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * To restate the issue, the recent removal of wikilinks diff has had the effect of not being able to see where BLP's exist when looking at any particular awards section. Either we allow multiple wikilinks on this list (there is no particular policy that stops this from happening) or if Hullaballoo Wolfowitz's personal preferences for style must be followed, then I see no other easy answer apart from splitting this list into separate articles (with the main list referencing out to the pages of results per award). Rather than just adding wikilinks back in after their blanket removal, I thought this was a less contentious option and avoided the risk of having another round of threatening accusations of fraud or malfeasance against me. Ash (talk) 22:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I see. I would do a good faith effort in the spirit of WP:Redlink - indicate that a page will be created soon or that an article should be created for the topic because it would be notable and verifiable. I have zero confidence that those editors are doing due diligence to see which of these names likely should or could have articles. Thanks to them dozens more articles that no one was in a rush to have were created so like most tenditious editing it looks to be having the opposite effect. If they had just left well enough alone likely all would be bored and ignore this subject area but here we are. I also agree that having some but not all the names wikilinked causes its own problems but just making thoughtful links because you believe an article would meet current standards seems acceptable. -- Banj e  b oi   23:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately I don't have an easy way of putting the multiple links back in. I have run my regex tool for a few more links but I also notice that some false mis-links are still in the text. Without reverting HW's edits and starting from scratch this will be a long process of teasing each section. Ash (talk) 23:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Per wp:overlinking we likely should avoid repeating the same wikilink in the same sections. Let me know if you'd like help or how i can help.  -- Banj e  b oi   00:02, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, however OVERLINK is not that hard and fast a guideline. In particular the rationale is "as it can make it harder for the reader to identify and follow those links which are likely to be of value"; in this case it would be of more value to bluelink (avoiding redlinks?) as many names of people as possible in each sub-section (maybe less so for studios) even if some do get repeated. That way, looking at a section or table in a sub-section it will be easy for the reader to see any name where a BLP exists. In the scenario for this award winners list, that is more useful than the literal implementation of OVERLINK. I have had to consider this in my automated tool usage as one of the modules I designed for AutoEd will strip out repeated wikilinks for an article using the rationale of OVERLINK. I do not believe this is contentious, though it may be worth going through a proposal/consensus process here if any contributor believes it may be contentious. Ash (talk) 08:40, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

My issue is actually with repeating the same wikilink, like to All Worlds Video, in the same sections. I agree with you on the linking people who likely should have an article or at least reasonably could. -- Banj e b oi   09:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * After some thought, I have tweaked my regex to distinguish between names that we may want to link to all occurrences of and everything else (slang words, studio names etc.) for which we only want the first occurrence linked (either article wide or by section if choosing to edit that section). If you are interested you can see the raw list supporting my regex module at User:Ash/linkListPStar.js. This should help with basic correct bluelink maintenance in the future, particularly if the pornstar list is heavily revised at some point. At the moment, running the regex on this page gives me no suggested additional links. The only corrections outstanding are fixing any remaining false BLP links in the article.
 * With the use of this regex, there seems no urgency to split the article unless the list is becoming unwieldy. Ash (talk) 12:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Grabby Awards
Excuse me, what is not enough for standalone article, could be enough for being here. etc. All info had references. --Strachon (talk) 17:12, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Number of articles about Grabbies at AVN = 268, see: http://www.avn.com/search/search.pl?criteria=grabby&submit.x=0&submit.y=0
 * Articles about Grabbies at Gay Porn Times: http://www.gayporntimes.com/hardnews/?s=grabby
 * Gay Erotic Video Index includes info about main awards, including Grabby, e.g. http://www.gayeroticvideoindex.com/V/3/733.html
 * Internet Movie Database: http://www.imdb.com/event/ev0000790/

Well, again: --Strachon (talk) 09:01, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) Grabby Awards article was deleted because of copyright issue, not over issues related to the subject itself.
 * 2) List of Grabby recipients was deleted and redirected on Articles for deletion/List of Grabby recipients, but, as was mentioned there, the list itself have no copyright issue, no notability issue.
 * 3) There is no reason for deleting information of Grabby Awards off this article, is it?

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