Talk:List of gay villages

Lack of sources
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies -- RoySmith (talk) 20:19, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Now at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies/Archive 72


 * Hey, @RoySmith, sorry to ping you to such an old post. I ended up here via a related issue and it looks to me like while there've been a lot of citations added, many of them are pretty iffy. Bloggy sources, sources that don't use the term gay village or gayborhood, sources that are no more than directory listings of a few gay/gay-friendly bars in the area. A lot of it feels OR/SYNTHY; even if it's an RS is calling the neighborhood 'gay-friendly', does that mean it's a 'gay village'? Valereee (talk) 13:55, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I'd long since forgotten about that, but thanks for the ping. RoySmith (talk) 15:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Cathedral City and Coachella Valley (let's add more sources)
In the early 2020s, rising real estate costs in the SF Bay Area (less in San Francisco moving into Oakland and inland valleys like Sacramento, Fresno and Bakesfield), living standards issues in CA cities (along the coast like Santa Barbara, Santa Cruz, Santa Monica and Long Beach), and the recent events in FL state politics has made large numbers of LGBTQ residents relocate into the Palm Springs area, one of the world's largest concentrations of queer residents (half to 2/3rds of Palm Springs and neighboring Cathedral City, California, Las Palmas is a Lesbian neighborhood or the nickname "Les Bi (Tr)Ans" close to the Dinah Shore weekend for Lesbians and various queer identities, while the annual White Party originated in Demuth Park is usually reserved for Gay men, sections 28 (double the 14) and "Latitude" 33 (Rancho Mirage) comparable to section 14 (where East Arenas Road or "the Towers" are) and increasingly in El Paseo and the River in Palm Desert and Old Town La Quinta, even Desert Hot Springs, Indian Wells, Indio and Coachella known for the music and arts festivals, a LGBTQ community center abd lower cost housing where apartments or duplexes are abundant, but not limited to that type of housing). There has been similar growth of LGBTQ+ populations in Utah (Salt Lake City), Texas like Sixth Street (Austin, Texas), and Oklahoma (its namesake city and Tulsa), the half a century or more of increasing visibility and some cases, integration of LGBTQ with the cis-hetero majorities, but the problem of loss of bars, clubs and spaces (being involuntarily taken over by cis-hetero persons) needs to be addressed in the article (Northern European countries where "Homophiles" in the Norwegian language remains in usage there, despite "Homosexual" is an abandoned term in favor for Gay as in L*G*BT and Queer). And to read about the "stealthy" will become visible and now accepted presence of Gay villages for LGBTQ people, note L comes first to honor Lesbian nurses cared for Gay patients in the primetime of the HIV/AIDS epidemic in the 1980s, the community has strong support with feminism and many cis hetero women allies. 2603:8001:2601:F351:E9C7:1862:8D49:AAC4 (talk) 02:54, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

The East Village in Des Moines, Iowa is Not a Gay Village
While there are three small gay bars in the East Village of Des Moines, Iowa, that does not mean it is a "Gay Village." In fact, the citation used for its addition on the list does not even label it as a "Gay Village" or "Gayborhood" and uses pictures of buildings that have since been demolished. Just because a neighborhood hosts a Pride does not mean it's a "Gay Village." Downtown Waterloo, Iowa hosts a Pride too, but it's definitely not a "gay getaway" as described in the article. Unlike a real Gay Village like The Castro in San Francisco, there is no gay restaurants or gay cafes in the East Village. Unlike a real Gay Village like Boystown in Chicago, there are no gay lodgings or gay museums in the East Village. The user that added it to the list claims the East Village is a Gay Village because LGBTQ+ individuals work at Alleged Lee's and Up Down, both which are not gay establishments. The user that added it to the list also claims Black Magic Tattoo and AllSpice are queer owned, meanwhile there is absolutely no citation for this claim. Black Magic Tattoo and AllSpice also do not host any queer events. For all of these reasons and more, the East Village should be removed from this list of Gay Villages. Harryhay69 (talk) 13:56, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree that the cited sources are insufficient to label this as a gay neighbourhood. Meters (talk) 04:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Two different Anon users keep adding it back to the list and deleting my discussion from the Talk page. What do I do? Harryhay69 (talk) 04:22, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Answered in your Teahouse thread. Meters (talk) 04:31, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Harryhay69 (talk) 04:32, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The East Village has yet again been added without a proper citation and no discussion has been made on whether or not it’s a “gay village.” (Ironically, I was just called the F-slur there AGAIN while out walking.) This user continues to ignore this discussion. The source does not meet this page’s criteria. Harryhay69 (talk) 20:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It’s well-known within the city that the East Village is Des Moines’ gay neighborhood, and it fits the Wikipedia definition: “A gay village, also known as a gayborhood, is a geographical area with generally recognized boundaries that is inhabited or frequented by many lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer (LGBT) people.”
 * To put up a fight about this seems oddly delusional and borderline homophobic. There are queer bars, businesses, people, and now rainbow-painted crosswalks. How does that not fit the definition of a gayborhood?
 * Is it the Castro? Cherry Grove? Boystown? P-Town? Of course not! It’s in Iowa with a MUCH smaller population. To compare and think as much would be incredibly delusional and naive. Is it Des Moines’ little queer neighborhood? Absolutely. It’s now being further acknowledged with Pride crosswalk street murals because of such.
 * I’ve been called homophobic slurs in NYC, Nashville, and DC. Sadly, there’s horrible people everywhere you go. Surely one can’t be THAT ignorant, right? I’d wager a bet homophobic comments are made by terrible people in San Francisco.
 * Why are you SO against people knowing that the East Village is THE queer-friendly neighborhood, with queer-owned, -operated, -employed, and -frequented businesses, where people can feel more comfortable and free being themselves?
 * By — what seems like — your standards, I bet many of the cities/towns on this list would not pass what YOU consider to be a gayborhood. 97.125.158.120 (talk) 05:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have not checked the sources for the other places, but I agreed with user:Harryhay69 that the source used on May 5 was not sufficient to justify labelling East Village as a gay village. Insisting on reliable sources does make either of us "borderline delusional" or "homophobic". Please strike that.  If it is "well-known within the city that the East Village is Des Moines’ gay neighborhood" It shouldn't be difficult to find reliable sources to show that., Meters (talk) 06:57, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * As an actual gay man that lives in the downtown area, I guarantee you it is not a gay destination/gayborhood. In fact, there are significantly more straight, cisgender businesses here than gay ones. There are no gay coffee shops, no gay restaurants, no gay clothing stores, no gay third places. There are a few gay bars, but there are significantly more establishments that aren’t queer. Just because there is a gay bar and pride doesn’t mean it’s a gayborbood. Look at Waterloo, Iowa for example. Either way, the source used does not label it as a gay village or gayborhood, therefore it must remain off this list. Harryhay69 (talk) 21:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The issue here may be that you have a singular expectation of a gay village/gayborhood. If you compare each place listed here to gay meccas like The Castro or Boystown, you’re obviously going to come up short, especially in smaller cities and towns. Does that mean they’re not gay villages because they don’t have all the bells and whistles of those aforementioned places? Of course not. Are you going to put up a fight with each of these other places, too?
 * Revisit the basic definition of a gayborhood. And keep in mind these terms are colloquialisms. For SO many of the neighborhoods listed on here, I bet you won’t find them referenced in writing as gayborhoods or gay neighborhoods. So to say they’re not, just because it’s not spelled out, is ignorant. Oftentimes it’s extrapolated.
 * Des Moines gay here, so I speak from personal experience that the East Village, as defined in this article, fits the bill. If you ask any gay in Des Moines where to go to be around other gays, 99.9% will say the East Village.
 * I’m in New Orleans right now, and the French Quarter is listed here as a gay village. There are a couple gay bars, but do you seriously think a majority of the hundreds (if not thousands) of businesses are queer owned? Oof. I would wager big money that that’s not true.
 * Check out some of the sources for the other spots listed on this page. I’ve found dead links and pages that do not mention the terms “gay village,” “gayborhood,” or “gay neighborhood”. I’m betting that, outside of the major ones (again, such as the aforementioned), YOU wouldn’t consider them as gayborhoods.
 * So again, I reiterate, the East Village of Des Moines has gay bars, queer owned businesses, hosts Pride, employees and houses many members of the LGBTQ+ community, and is THE most comforting and frequented space in Des Moines/central Iowa for that community.
 * And again, I ask you, WHY are you so against letting other people know this is THE Des Moines gayborhood? Because it’s small? Because it doesn’t satisfy YOUR needs? What about all the young queers coming from small towns that FINALLY feel comfortable in their skin walking around in this neighborhood, worrying so much less about the safety of their lives as they proudly walk down East 5th Street? Your staunch opinion on this feels… personal. 50.172.192.229 (talk) 05:02, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * You claim that if you ask any gay in Des Moines where the gayborhood is they’d say the East Village, but this isn’t true, I’m a gay man that lives here and wouldn’t say there is one in all of Iowa. I agree with you- most of these aren’t gay villages and should be removed from this list, just like the East Village. Harryhay69 (talk) 14:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok, so you’re saying that your own personal definition of a gay village is not in sync with how it is defined on this page. And as such, based on your own personal different definition, the East Village and most of the other places listed here should be removed.
 * So are you going to remove them? Or maybe instead, you could acknowledge that these places ARE all gay villages, but those spots like Cherry Grove and P-Town are extra special. Picture it as if they’re all fruits. Is a pineapple and a grape the same thing? Of course not. But are they both fruits? Absolutely.
 * I’ve copied & pasted what I said in my previous note because it seems you didn’t read the whole statement: “Des Moines gay here, so I speak from personal experience that the East Village, as defined in this article, fits the bill. If you ask any gay in Des Moines where to go to be around other gays, 99.9% will say the East Village.” You are that .1%. I’d wager a bet that most any other member of the LGBTQ+ community in the Des Moines metro would agree that the East Village fits the definition of a gay village as defined on this page. 50.172.192.229 (talk) 03:25, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * ? I was agreeing that other places listed should be removed from the list, yes. Currently the page is protected but we can go through the list source-by-source to see if it should be on here. Many of them do not! Harryhay69 (talk) 03:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * But that’s only based on YOUR opinion/definition of a gay village, which, as you’ve admitted, is different from what is outlined on this page. Shouldn’t you focus on changing the description of a gay village first so it aligns with your personal narrative? 50.172.192.229 (talk) 04:14, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Personal narrative? Not at all. Looking at the definition on the page, most of these locations should be removed. Harryhay69 (talk) 04:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * ok, just to make summer we’re reading the same thing about gay villages, here is the copied & pasted text about gay villages: “A gay village, also known as a gayborhood, is a geographical area with generally recognized boundaries that is inhabited or frequented by many lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer (LGBT) people. Gay villages often contain a number of gay-oriented establishments, such as gay barsand pubs, nightclubs, bathhouses, restaurants, boutiques, and bookstores.”
 * Reading that carefully, and recalling that not all gay villages are going to be like the Castro and Boystown, why is it that the East Village does not belong on this list, based on the provided description above? 50.172.192.229 (talk) 04:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It does not meet that definition, as stated above. The sources used do not even say it’s a gayborhood or gay village. The sources used also do not say anything about gay restaurants, gay bathhouses, gay boutiques, and gay bookstores, because Des Moines doesn’t have any of those. Meanwhile, Chicago has a gay museum, a gay bathhouse, numerous gay establishments. If I was to go to the East Village now (which is a ten minute walk from me), I’d find significantly more businesses tailored to non-LGBT people. Up Down isn’t a gay bar, Zombie Burger, The Breakfast Club, Scenic Route Bakery, Daisy Chain, Vibrant Coffee, Gong Fu Tea, etc all aren’t gay establishments at all. While yes, there is The Saddle and The Garden, the surrounding businesses are evidence it is not a gayborhood. Harryhay69 (talk) 04:48, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Please reread what I’ve already stated. I’ll try to quickly summarize: 1) gayborhood and gay village are colloquialisms, and not always spelled out as such. 2) again, the definition says “…OFTEN contain a number of gay-oriented establishments…” I have to imagine you know the difference between ‘often’ and ‘always’ 3) why are you STILL comparing a city of 211,000 to a city of 2 million. Obviously the East Village is not Boystown. Please retire that comparison. 4) in many gay neighborhoods there’s businesses that cater to all walks of life, not just the LGBTQ+ community. 5) do you deny that the East Village has recognized boundaries that is inhabited or frequented by many lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer (LGBT) people”? That’s a major part of a gay village that you are completely glossing over. 50.172.192.229 (talk) 05:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * 1) This is not in the definition.
 * 2) So a gayborhood could *not* include gay establishments, excluding bars? Give an example.
 * 3) Exactly, can you find a gayborhood with a similar population as the East Village? No?
 * 4) This is not in the definition. Inclusivity does not mean gay people mainly go there.
 * 5) There are gay bars, which can be wonderful, but there is no source claiming this point. From what street to what street are you claiming there are more LGBT people. As a gay man, I can assure you I know more gay people living outside of the EV. There aren’t any old cruising areas even, just look at Sniffies. Harryhay69 (talk) 05:29, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * 1) Seems like you don’t know what a colloquialism is. 2) Yes. 3) I’m sure I could, and you could, too. 4) are you implying all businesses in a gayborhood need to cater exclusively to the LGBTQ+ community, and reject those that are not members of that community? 5) if you’ve spent time in the East Village and deny this claim, I question if you’re telling the truth at all. Heck, there’s now rainbow murals painted on the corners of East 5th and East Grand. Why do you think they did that? That doesn’t signify anything to you? 50.172.192.229 (talk) 05:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * 1) It’s not in the definition.
 * 2) then what are they?
 * 3) I disagree, there aren’t.
 * 4) If they aren’t mainly pursued by LGBT clients, it doesn’t meet the definition. Is McDonalds a gay restaurant because they serve everyone?
 * 5) Rainbows =/= frequented by mainly gay people. Ernie’s is a bar mainly straight bar and it’s connected by the rainbow. In fact, there aren’t ANY gay bars touching the rainbow. The corner touches an antique store (toilets, etc), Ernie’s and Nightingale, both bars that aren’t pursued by gay people, and Raygun. Raygun has vastly liberal clothing, but it’s not dominated by gay culture at all. Harryhay69 (talk) 06:02, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Protected
I've protected for a week. IP, please do not refactor the comments of other people. If you'd like to start your own discussion section, that's fine, but the edits you've been making to this talk page are disruptive. Valereee (talk) 14:21, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Protected again
Persistent addition of poorly-sourced content. Reply here in this section if the issue recurs after protection ends. Valereee (talk) 11:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Des Moines
Moving this from HH69's talk:

Hi Valereee! I'm having some issues. Harryhay69 is still removing East Village of Des Moines, IA as a gay village even after proper citation, including one recent article that literally refers to the area as a 'gayborhood.' What more, or how much more, citation exactly is needed to keep this included on this Wiki page? Here are the citations I've referenced to exemplify that the East Village qualifies as a gay village: "Before The 'Gayborhood'". dmcityview.com. Retrieved 2024-06-14. "Gay Des Moines Guide - Gay Bars & Clubs, Hotels, Beaches, Reviews and Maps". desmoines.gaycities.com. Retrieved 2019-06-24. "LGBTQ Bars and Nightlife Culture". CatchDesMoines. Retrieved 2024-06-05. 'Visibility is education': Pride Corner becomes part of Des Moines' East Village". LittleVillageMagazine. Retrieved 2024-06-05. "New Pride mural in Des Moines to 'roll out the welcome mat' for LGBTQ+ community". IowaStartingLine. Retrieved 2024-06-05. "Capital City Pride to Unveil Pride Corner in East Village". HolaIowa. Retrieved 2024-06-05. I do not understand for the life of me why Harryhay69 [redacted] is so aggressive about keeping the East Village of Des Moines off this list. It is an accurate and helpful thing to keep included on this page. Please help. Thank you! 75.162.41.172 (talk) 03:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

, it does look like dmcityreview.com has some level of editorial oversight, and that they're calling the area a gayborhood. Why are you still objecting? Valereee (talk) 11:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Ugh, broke the ping: @Harryhay69 Valereee (talk) 11:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The ONLY source that indirectly calls it a "Gayborhood" is an advertisement for "The Last American Gay Bar," a mini-documentary on a local bar. If you watch the first episode the owner even admits that it is not a gay bar, but a "bar for everyone." Looking at their sources, none of them support the inclusion:
 * 1) https://desmoines.gaycities.com/ - outdated, shows old buildings not even in use anymore.
 * 2) https://www.catchdesmoines.com/lgbtq-bars-and-nightlife/ - Many of these "inclusive bars" aren't even in the East Village
 * 3) https://littlevillagemag.com/visibility-is-education-pride-corner-becomes-part-of-des-moines-east-village/ - This is an article about an art project hoping the art is seen as comforting for the LGBT community. As mentioned in the article, this project was also done in Ames, Iowa, a city north of Des Moines, which doesn't even have a gay bar. It does not indicate more gay people live there, in fact every business the mural connects is mainly visited by straight people, ironically.
 * 4) https://iowastartingline.com/2024/05/29/pride-mural-des-moines/ - Says the mural was placed there because of the Blazing Saddle (refer to above.)
 * 5) https://holaamericanews.com/capital-city-pride-to-unveil-pride-corner-in-east-village/ - See above.
 * Every single source used by 75.162.41.172 is entirely focused on the bars. The Wiki's definition says that gay villages also include "gay lodgings, B&Bs, bars, clubs and pubs, restaurants, cafes, and other similar businesses. Some may be gay getaways [..]" Are there gay lodgings in the East Village? No. Are there gay restaurants in the East Village? No. Are there gay cafes in the East Village? No. Are there ANY other similar gay businesses in the East Village (like gay bookstores, bathhouses, museums, etc)? None whatsoever!
 * With all of this in mind, what's the difference between this page and a list of gay bars? If the *only* criteria for a neighborhood to be listed on here is that it must have a gay bar, shouldn't every city with a gay bar technically be on here then?
 * Let's look at actual Gayborhoods, for instance. If I visit Oak Lawn in Dallas, Texas I can go to an LGBT cafe, gay clothing stores, a thrift store giving funds to AIDS research, and Oak Lawn even has Mistr, which prescribes PrEP (an anti HIV medication). If I visit the Castro in San Francisco, California I can go to an LGBT bookstore, Queer History Museum (Harvey Milk and Gilbert Baker lived there), a gay cookie shop, queer movie theatre, and an art gallery. If I visit Boystown in Chicago, Illinois I can go to a 24/7 gay club called Steamworks, there's gay diners and other attractions. Not only this, but Chicago hosts International Mister Leather, Mister International Rubber, and Market Days, all widely huge gay celebrations.
 * Meanwhile NONE of this is offered in Des Moines. At all. Yes, there ARE bars. But if a bar is the only requirement, this page needs to be revamped massively. The differences in an actual Gayborhood and the East Village is staggering. Notice how with the comparisons I made with Oak Lawn, the Castro, and Boystown, I don't mention a single gay bar? Take away the gay bars in the East Village, and there's nothing left except paint on the sidewalk.
 * Keeping the East Village on this list is entirely misleading and not helpful to those that are looking for actual Gayborhoods. Harryhay69 (talk) 13:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Harryhay69, but you didn't address DM City Review, which says 'Today, we are down to only a few gay bars in Des Moines, all within a city block from each other: The Garden, Buddy’s and the Blazing Saddle. All are located in the East Village around East Fifth and Grand Avenue, which has been nicknamed “The Gayborhood.”'
 * This list doesn't seem to be a list of independently notable gay villages, or even really good gay villages. It only says they 'tend' to include a lot of gay businesses. It seems like this is a list of places that are called gay villages or gayborhoods in RS. I don't want to turn into an editor here by entering a content dispute, as that would mean I can no longer act as an admin here, and I'd prefer to stay an admin as the list doesn't have many watchers.
 * I would suggest it's time to request a third opinion. Valereee (talk) 13:53, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I was acknowledging the DM City Review with the first two sentences. The article you linked by the DM City Review is an advertisement for a mini-series on OUTtv about the Blazing Saddle, which is referred to as a bar "for everyone" in the first episode.
 * I will look into the third opinion link, but that won't stop the fact that the East Village doesn't have any gay restaurants/diners, cafes, bookstores, movie theatres, bathhouses, museums, art galleries, PrEP advocacy like Mistr, thrift stores funding AIDS research, but there are a few small, gay bars. Harryhay69 (talk) 14:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Harryhay69, what makes you think the dmcityreview story is an ad? I'm not finding it? There's a bare mention of the OUTtv thing? Valereee (talk) 14:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This is a direct quote from the article on DM City Review: "On June 13, The Varsity Cinema will be offering a one-night sneak of my upcoming OUTtv series, 'The Last American Gay Bar,' at 7 p.m. A lot of this forgotten history and more will be covered as the first three episodes of the show are screened"
 * Kristian Day is the person that wrote this article to promote his show. It's an advertisement. Harryhay69 (talk) 14:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see...yes, that doesn't qualify as independent coverage. IP, you'll need to find an independent source calling the area a gay village or gayborhood. Valereee (talk) 14:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * So because the only source claiming the East Village is a Gayborhood is an advertisement, it should be removed from the list, right? Harryhay69 (talk) 15:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I think you could remove it with an edit summary once again directing people here. Valereee (talk) 15:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I appreciate the help. Harryhay69 (talk) 16:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Vast Majority of These Should Be Removed
I took some time to look through every Gayborhood listed under the United States. A vast majority of them should be removed off of the list. Many of the sources even say there is no gayborhood in the city but is simply "gay friendly." Being a gay friendly city does not necessarily make it a Gayborhood. For this reason, I believe the areas without proper citations should be removed until a proper source shows otherwise.

California Tower District - Source does not call it a Gayborhood; Tower District's article does not mention anything about it being historically gay, either. Guerneville - Source does not call it a Gayborhood; says it's visited by gay people just because it's near San Francisco but that does not mean it's a gayborhood. The Broadway Corridor - Source says it's a Gayborhood Castro District - Gayborhood Laguna Beach - Extremely out of date, talks about bar closing down, doesn't say it's a gayborhood West Hollywood - Gayborhood Palm Springs - Source does not call it a Gayborhood; just because a location celebrates Pride does not mean it is a gayborhood. Hillcrest - Source calls its a "Gay Neighborhood"

Colorado Capitol Hill - Source does not call it a Gayborhood; talks about a restaurant calling a burger gay River North - Source DOES call it a Gayborhood

Delaware Rehoboth Beach - Source no longer works

District of Columbia  Dupont Circle, Logan Circle, Columbia Heights - All have the same source. The historian interviewed says that there is no gayborhood there any longer.

Florida Riverside and Avondale - Source literally says that there is no gayborhood Key West - Source doesn't even mention the word gay Lake Worth - Do not have access to this citation. The Wiki article for Lake Worth does not say it is a Gayborhood, either. Miami Beach - Source doesn't say it is a Gayborhood. Instead, it refers to different neighborhoods, like Wilton Manors, instead Audubon Park - Source doesn't exist any longer. Coytown - Same citation as above. Wilton Manors - Yes, Gayborhood. GaYbor - The source is an old article from 2007 about an "emerging haven for gays and lesbians in the core of Tampa Bay's signature entertainment strip." The website for GaYbor is no longer active. Grand Central - Source doesn't even mention the word gay!

Georgia Midtown - Yes, source says it is a gayborhood Cheshire Bridge Road, and Ansley Mall area - No, source does not call it a gayborhood

Idaho North End - No, source does not call it a gayborhood

Illinois Andersonville - No, source does not call it a gayborhood Edgewater - Not even mentioned in the source Uptown - No, source does not call it a gayborhood North Halsted/Boystown - Yes, source does call it a gayborhood

Indiana Beverly Shores - Do not have access to citation Downtown - N, source does not call it a gayborhood Herron-Morton Place - The source only talks about one gay bar, does not call it a gayborhood

Kentucky The Highlands - No, source does not call it a gayborhood. The Highlands' wikipedia article also only briefly mentions its "gay scene" without a single citation.

Louisiana Faubourg Marigny, French Quarter, P-Town/Pension Town - Yes, the source does refer to all of them as Louisiana's gayborhoods

Maine Ogunquit - The citation no longer works.

Maryland Mount Vernon - No, source does not call it a gayborhood. In fact, the website refers to the area as begin a haven for LGBT people in the past tense, meaning it is no longer.

Massachusetts Jamaica Plain - No, source does not call it a gayborhood. Being "queer friendly" is not the same thing as being a queer community. South End - See above. The second source used does not even mention the word gay! Provincetown - Yes, it is a Gayborhood.

Michigan Douglas - No, source does not call it a gayborhood Saugatuck - See above Ferndale - Yes, archived source does say it is a gay neighborhood Kerrytown - The source literally says it does not have a gayborhood

Minnesota Downtown Duluth - Source literally says it does not have a gayborhood Loring Park - Source does claim it is a gayborhood Nordeast Arts District - First source says that Minneapolis only has one gayborhood, which is Loring Park. Second source says Nordeast/Northeast Minneapolis is one. North Loop - Source does not exist anymore. Powderhorn Park - Source claims that only Loring Park and Powderhorn Park are the only two gayborhoods in Minneapolis Uptown - Source does not call it a gayborhood Pine City - First and third source do not call it a gayborhood and the second source's website has now been deleted

Missouri Westport - No, source does not call it a gayborhood The Grove - Yes, source does call it a gayborhood

Nebraska Old Market - No, source does not call it a gayborhood

Nevada Fruit Loop - Citation no longer active.

New Hampshire Somersworth - Error reaching source ?

New Jersey Asbury Park, Atlantic City, Cape May - All have the same source, and no, it does not call any of them a gayborhood. Collingswood - No, source does not call it a gayborhood Ewing - No, it does not Jersey City - No, it does not Lambertville - No, it does not Maplewood - No, it does not Mill Hill (Trenton) - Yes, it does! Ocean Grove - No, it does not Plainfield - No, it does not South Orange - No, it does not

New York  Chelsea, Greenwich Village, Hell's Kitchen - Yes, the source does Inwood - No, it does not Washington Heights - No, it does not Park Slope - Yes Jackson Heights - No, it does not Cherry Grove - Yes, Gayborhood Fire Island Pines - Yes, Gayborhood The Hamptons - No, it does not Allentown - No, it does not Park Avenue - No Hawley-Green Historic District - No Lark Street - No

North Carolina  NoDa Arts District, Plaza-Midwood, South End - No, source says there isn't a gayborhood here Five Points, Warehouse - Same source, yes, does call it a gayborhood

Ohio Highland Square - No, it does not Northside - Yes Detroit-Shoreway - No Edgewater - No Lakewood - No Clintonville - No The Short North - No German Village - No

Oklahoma N.W. 39th Street - Yes

Oregon Old Town - No Burnside Triangle - Yes  Pennsylvania Midtown - Yes East Passyunk Crossing - Yes Washington Square West - Yes West Mount Airy - No New Hope - No Shadyside - No Mexican War Streets - No

United States Territory of Puerto Rico Condado - No

Texas Midtown - Website inactive, archive doesn't load Galvestone - No Oak Lawn - Yes Montrose - Yes

Vermont  Burlington - No

Washington (state) Capitol Hill - No citation Harryhay69 (talk) 19:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)