Talk:List of generation III Pokémon

Is there a reason that "generation" isn't capitalized on these pages?
If there is, please inform me. Paintspot (talk) 17:55, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

idkam
What happened to life anymore? I feel dead and rotting every day that passes by... LittlePoochyena (talk) 18:03, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Wait, what do you mean? Is it relevant to this page? ThePRoGaMErGD (talk) 18:35, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

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Possible Mistake
Is the fact that the Pokémon in Firered and Leafgreen aren't in here a mistake? ThePRoGaMErGD (talk) 18:37, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't think so—those only featured monsters from previous games, no? Eman  235 / talk  20:01, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Fire Red and Leaf Green is the same as Red and Green so there was no "new" Pokemon to add. Porygon-Z (talk) 18:05, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Improving the list
Hi, I've developed a concept of how the list should look (text taken from this article).

So yeah, the major changes include putting the number in the Pokémon's name field, combining their types into one line, replacing "Beginning of evolution" with "—", removing table colors, and putting the Japanese name in the notes section. This would be used for the other lists if there seems to be support in changing the formatting. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 00:08, 31 January 2024 (UTC) Cukie Gherkin (talk) 00:08, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * As much as I like the aesthetic flair of the colors, this is tremendously helpful in terms of navigation and easier reading in these articles. I definitely support this becoming official. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:19, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * leaves more space for the text that describes the things the lists are about, so yeah, i support it
 * i would offer to make the change if i could, but my weekday pc really can't handle more than the bare minimum in its current state
 * on an unrelated note, why does blaziken's description use the objectively superior non-roman numbers that i can read, shouldn't that be changed?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 00:27, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, I like this. It is similar to a proposal I was working on in my sandbox a while back, but I like yours better. I would personally go a step further and omit the Type field as leaning too far into cruft territory, but last time I suggested that, others disagreed. TarkusAB talk / contrib 01:24, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I do prefer something like this more than the current table. I'd support a swap. -- Zoo  Blazer  01:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I heavily support combining the Pokédex number with another column like this. I think it's fine to omit the Japanese names. I'm not in favor of removing the type coloring; I think it is very useful at a glance for some readers, and overall much more aesthetically pleasing. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat ) 09:17, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Anything to save horizontal space. Axem Titanium (talk) 20:19, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree with Mable, both in that losing the type coloring would be a shame, and that I'm fully in favor of combining the name and number columns. I tried it with some variations on English/Japanese/number. I think you can also keep the separate types columns but slim them down by dropping the "Primary"/"Secondary" subcolumns and adding a width. Maybe move the colors over to not be behind the text? Example below. -- Pres N  00:38, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I really love this idea! I think I would prefer, in the case of dual typing, to have each color take up half of the vertical space, thus there being a split in the middle. It vaguely looks like you may have tried to do that in the final example here, but it looks like almost exclusively the "Fighting" color on my screen. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat ) 12:47, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It was 50/50 on my screen, but I just swapped it to use css gradiants instead of 2 rows - does that look right to you? -- Pres N  20:46, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, this looks perfect and great! :) ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat ) 08:52, 21 March 2024 (UTC)


 * After thinking about it, getting rid of the type colors is probably not ideal. I do like the slimming down of the colors. --  Zoo Blazer  15:22, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I think that the second Combusken example is superior, as I think the first is both creating more horizontal length than is necessary, but also I think it just looks better than having two separate columns for the colors. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 20:56, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Mocked up some templates to make the color bars easier- Poketype and Pokecolor, so for a grass-type you'd just say, or   instead of having to build out the big and messy  . -- Pres  N  15:06, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Now applied these to this list, and worked out the regexs to easily apply them to the other lists. I'll hold off on that until we have a consensus on the name column. -- Pres N  22:20, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The neat thing about Pokecolor is that if anyone comes up with better colors, you can just update that template and all of the lists will adjust. -- Pres N  22:21, 21 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Ok, now we have to pick which first column- 1, 2, or 3? (or your version up above without the bolding) -- Pres N  11:50, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I like 2 and 3. I don't like the double-brackets of 1. I think it's probably appropriate to include the Japanese name and it looks nice. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat ) 12:26, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * My own preference is 2, but I'm ok with 3. -- Pres N  14:08, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with both 2 or 3. --  Zoo Blazer  22:23, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Any opinion ? -- Pres N  22:49, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I think 2 or 3 are best, with 2 being fine because vertical space isn't that big a deal compared to horizontal, I think. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 23:24, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Alright, I've gone ahead and converted the table to what seemed to be the consensus. If y'all agree, I can change the other 7 lists to match. -- Pres N  00:43, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I think that this style would be good for all the lists, yeah. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 07:06, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I have no objections to the other lists being changed to the updated look. --  Zoo Blazer  07:10, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * You've done a beautiful job, PresN, and I am excited to see this new style used on all the lists. Good work! :) ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat ) 07:49, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I support the new format. Well done. I had thought about a format with notes in a separate row like the plot in Pokémon: Indigo League but it has both ups and downs, e.g. not working with rowspans like Lotad or Rotom. Small comment on the current format : The Pokedex number is on its own line, applies to the whole cell, and comes after a name in parentheses which only applies to its own line in the cell. With these circumstances I would prefer #0252 without parentheses over the current (0252). PrimeHunter (talk) 14:11, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Alright, all 8 generation tables updated! If y'all decide to change it to #0252 instead of (0252) let me know, it would only take a minute to update. -- Pres N  20:07, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Poor gen 9. --  Zoo Blazer  20:46, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Whoops! I was sitting there on the gen 8 list thinking "yeah, the last Pokemon game came out in 2022, that makes sense"... Gen 9 now fixed. -- Pres N  21:22, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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on this thing i found
this source, from the game haus

talks about blaziken's wacky competitive history

reception to the site's usability around here ranges from "uh idk maybe" to "uh idk maybe not"

reliable or the opposite of reliable?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:16, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * This source looks good to me. Apparently The Game Haus "holds itself and its content creators to the highest of standards," which while giving me a bad vibe does suggest proper editorial control. Eric Bartlett is a professional writer/journalist. I'm excited to see a new esports source with potential, as I think this is one of the primary "real-world" impacts these items have. Good find! ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat ) 08:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * in that case, i added it back
 * do think the wording is a little bad, but that shouldn't be too hard to analyze and fix when i'm less tired
 * thanks  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:26, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

on finishing this hellish ordeal up
two big details regarding the science fair project quintet (feat. regigigas, probably), and then deoxys

for the golems, the group has like 5 different names, and may or may not actually include regigigas, unlike nearly everything else, fans and news outlets generally just treat every option as common sense at the same time, with no sources i was able to find on this specific topic, though this one casually refers to them as "titans" and "regis" (and also puts them under the lake guardians with regieleki around). how do y'all think this should be handled?

for deoxys, should its formes (very different from forms, gotta stay fr*nch) have separate notes since they have separate entries, designs, and everything else?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 14:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I'd say the Regi should probably just utilize whatever terms are discussed in reliable sources. Something like "The group has been alternatively been referred to as the Legendary Giants[1], Legendary Titans[2] and the Regi[3]" as an example. Obviously wording and such would be different, but I think you see my point.
 * Not sure on Deoxys tbh. I could see a split cell like what's done with Tauros and Ogerpon at the Gen 9 list, but I feel it's not a big issue either way. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC)