Talk:List of governors of Louisiana

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Where is the information about the governor's salary? Surely it is a matter of public record? What about the governor's use of the state airplane?
 * Probably somewhere on Google? This is a list article. If you want an article about the office of the governor itself, make one. --Golbez (talk) 20:12, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

What are suggestions for disambiguating the late 19th century governor Murphy J. Foster and his grandson the late 20th century governor Murphy J. "Mike" Foster?

Should "Murphy J. Foster" be a disambiguation page, with links to the two governors?

What should the first governor Foster's article be titled? Possiblilities: "Murphy James Foster", "Murphy J. Foster (1892-1900)" (refering to his term as governor), "Murphy J. Foster (1849-1921)" (refering to his life). Other suggestions?

How should we entitle the second? "Murphy J. Foster, Jr.", "Mike Foster", "Murphy J. Mike Foster", "Murphy J. Foster (1996-2004)", "Murphy J. Foster (born 1930)"? Other options?

-- Infrogmation 03:55, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)

for murphy j. foster for the grandfather and mike foster for the grandson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.249.207.66 (talk) 21:50, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

the louisiana secretary of state's website lists governors robertson, tibodaux, and johnson as national republican so i changed them

We did not find results for: I have been told of an agreement with BP over a year ago but no reply or paperwork sent to finalize the agreement. Would you the govern of LA help me in getting info from BP. Carl Verdin (talk) 03:48, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

We did not find results for: I have been told of an agreement with BP over a year ago but no reply or paperwork sent to finalize the agreement. Would you the govern of LA help me in getting info from BP. Carl Verdin (talk) 03:48, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Another green shade
I assumed William Charles Cole Claiborne was a Democratic-Republican while in the Orleans Territory office. Probably like George F. Shepley. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.210.163 (talk) 19:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

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Numbering
In the U.S. Civil War era, the Confederate and the U.S. Governors of course served concurrently, not consecutively. (They of course did not recognize each other as legitimate governors.) I think it inappropriate to number them as if the served in a row, 2 Confederates first, followed by two Unionists, as the article had. I therefore changed it. Since our numbering system changed over with the 25th (total) governor of Louisiana to 1 to mark change of administration from French to US control, I similarly marked the Confederate governors since they were not Governors under U.S. statehood. -- Infrogmation (talk) 11:58, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

There still some mistakes in the numbering. Jindal is the 55th Governor, not the 53rd. GoodDay (talk) 01:06, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, the State of Louisiana considers Jindal to be the 55th Governor, not the 53rd, so the numbering system needs to be redone. When need to use what ever the State Government itself considers to be the correct numbering, not what we think about the Confederate versus Union idea.  All of the numbering conventiosn that i can find for Louisiana show Allen as the 17th Governor, Shepley as the 18th, Hahn as the 19th, Wells as the 20th and so one.Sf46 (talk) 19:29, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * IMO we simply need to define our terms and be consistent. (Lists by the State of Louisiana may or may not be.) Say what we mean by "Governor of Louisiana" - for example, everyone who ever held that title would include Spanish and French Colonial Governors, both Confederate and Union Governors during the US Civil War and State Governors -- whereas Governors of the U.S. State of Louisiana would be a shorter and more specific list. -- Infrogmation (talk) 19:33, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

I find the system of numbering that the State of Louisiana uses for its governors to be both fascinating - and ridiculous. Bobby Jindal is recognized by the state as its 55th governor, and is correctly listed as such on Wikipedia - but if you actually count up the number of separate gubernatorial administrations since Louisiana became a state, he would be 62nd, not 55th. The problem is that Louisiana continues to count any governor who serves a second, or even a third non-consecutive term, under his original number. There were three such governors in the 20th Century alone - Jimmie Davis, who served two unconnected terms (from 1944 to 1948 and again from 1960 to 1964) but is still considered to only be the 47th governor, and two governors who each served three unconnected terms - Earl Long (the 45th governor, 1939-1940, 1948-1952 and 1956-1960) and Edwin W. Edwards (the 50th governor, 1972-80, 1984-1988 and 1992-1996). There were also several by-now long-forgotten 19th Century governors who also served more than one non-consecutive term (Andre B. Roman, the 9th governor, 1831-1835 and 1839-1843) and Francs T. Nichols (the 28th governor, 1877-1880 and 1888-1892). In contrast, other states treat non-consecutive terms as separate administrations and number them as such - for instance, California's Jerry Brown, who served from 1985 to 1983 and who again has served as the present governor since 2011, is considered to be both the 34th governor and the 39th. And of course, Grover Cleveland, who served as President of the United states from 1885 to 1889, was defeated for re-election in 1888 but who came out of his enforced retirement to again live in the White House from 1893-1897, is considered by historians to be both the 22nd and the 24th president. Perhaps Wikipedia, while continuing to list the governors of Louisiana (or any other state which may use similar numbering conventions for non-consecutive terms) the way the state officially lists them, should also somewhere include a paragraph explaining the apparent discrepancy. -- Pdeck2013 (talk) 06:44, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * This article is not remotely in a finished state, having virtually zero prose, let alone any prose explaining the numbering. For an example of how it would be done when the article is brought up to standards, see List of Governors of Alabama, another state that doesn't count repeats. --Golbez (talk) 01:51, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure - I checked the Alabama reference you cited above, and that's exactly what I had in mind. Unfortunately, I am not a Louisianan and do not know enough about the state and the way its governor's office operates (beyond having noticed the statistical quirk in the numbering system as noted above) to be able to write the kind of comprehensive prose that you have suggested. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about these things will be able to flesh out the existing article with more information, including an explanation of the quirky numbering it practices for its governors.Pdeck2013 (talk) 13:54, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

I've fixed up the numbering. Two governors: John McEnery (25th governor) & Stephen B. Packard (27th governor) are missing from the list. GoodDay (talk) 05:43, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

National Republicans

 * I changed Gov. Beauvais and Gov. Dupré affiliations from Whig to National Republican since Whig party was not in existence yet.166.249.207.49 (talk) 16:55, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Nonsensical
It is pretty much a nonsense that there is no specific article for the Governor of Louisiana, just a list, yet there is an article and list for the Lieutenant-Governor. Makes it very difficult to manage the wikidata aspect as office holder position isn't in place. — billinghurst  sDrewth  07:57, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to make one. --Golbez (talk) 13:58, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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List of governors of Louisiana → Governor of Louisiana – I believe in expanding this article to include a full discussion of the governor's office/duties/role in Louisiana along the lines of other US governor articles, such as I have done at Governor of North Carolina. This would mean the transformation of the article beyond a "list of" series, and while I would normally boldly make the move myself, "Governor of Louisiana" is currently a redirect to this page. As is not uncommon with articles on state offices in the US, I plan on keeping the list of incumbents here, unless others feel it better to split them off, in which case I would simply transform the redirect into its own full article. Indy beetle (talk) 08:30, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The only options really are "Make an article for governor" or "Move this article to that and expand it." My preference is the former but I understand if, at the moment, we don't have enough writing to justify it. As for keeping the list of incumbents in it - it's a big list, with 30 footnotes and 200 references. I feel like it should stand on its own. (a rule I just came up with but it seems a useful one: If one section of an article has more sources than the rest of the article combined, it should probably be split off into its own article)
 * So, to wit: I agree with the need for an article on the office, and moving this there is an acceptable stopgap, but my preference would be to just expand that and leave this where it is. --Golbez (talk) 13:46, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose. There's no reason to move this list, it's a fine standalone list as it is. A list this big really doesn't belong in the main article anyway. If you want to write an article on the office of governor, then just turn the redirect into an article. Rreagan007 (talk) 01:45, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll note this article's lead already sets it up to be a "governor of" article and not a "list of" article, so noting that in such a case the introduction and text content of this article would probably be altered. -Indy beetle (talk) 09:43, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * If you want to make a proper article out of the redirect, help yourself. But in my opinion this list is too long to be integrated into a standard article. Rreagan007 (talk) 22:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)


 * (Regretful) Oppose - The article just doesn't have the proper structure to be more than just a list. I think it's best to turn the redirect into an article. estar8806 (talk) ★ 19:46, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This proposal entails me adding said structure. -Indy beetle (talk) 02:58, 17 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. I think it is generally better to have an article on the concept containing a list. I would, however, also alternatively support having an separate article at the current redirect title, with the list kept separate. BD2412  T 01:41, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note - I have gone ahead and created the article I envisioned at Governor of Louisiana as that seems to be where this discussion was leaning. I do not mean to present a fait accompli, and I supposed this can continue as a de facto merge (or not merge) discussion. I still stand by my stated position but did not want to let that get in the way of creating content. -Indy beetle (talk) 09:46, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

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Potential sources
64 parishes -Indy beetle (talk) 08:30, 14 July 2023 (UTC)