Talk:List of highest-grossing animated films/Archive 4

new lists/pages
could we start new lists or pages for most expensive animated film and biggest animted bombs. like Most Expensive Film & Box office bomb? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.102.93.78 (talk) 21:19, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Most Expensive animated Film mock list
Officially acknowledged figure.

Biggest box office bombs for a animated film mock list

 * Tangled is the most expensive? I wouldn't have guessed. This has no place on this page as this page deals with Highest-grossing films, but you can submit a draft to create a page like this, but make sure you have all your data before you do so. DCF94 (talk) 16:13, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

frist page
here the frist pageMost Expensive animated Film. can u help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.157.176 (talk) 16:40, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I will try. DCF94 (talk) 03:34, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Is there any more films. or cane I start working on text — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.157.176 (talk) 11:49, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

dragon ball gross
I tracking down the dragon ball gross (dose any else know any more?)


 * I don't remember right now where, but I know I found box office figures for the first DB films, except for the '96 one, the total, without the '96 and with Resurrection 'F', was at about $270 million. If Toei Animation decides to make another film, it may get on the list, it depends if & when they decide to release it because there are many new franchises/film series coming out in the next couple of years. DCF94 (talk) 15:51, 20 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I have sent a message to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_films#dragon_ball for help
 * I will search for those figures tomorrow if you want, but as I remember, the '96 film can't have more than $12-$15m judging by the progression of the other films, in any case it doesn't pass Rugrats' $299m. DCF94 (talk) 18:25, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Please do if you get the time also if you already got some of them can you put it the franchise  box above.
 * I actually found a source for all films that puts the series in the top 20. DCF94 (talk) 19:21, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Spongebob movies
Both Spongebob movies are mostly 2D traditional animated films with some live-action scenes. They are definitely not similar to The Smurfs or Alvin & the Chipmunks or Who Framed Roger Rabbit. If spongebob movies are live-action/animation hybrid then please put The Lego Movie on that list too. Paleo cemoski  16:47, 27 November 2015 (UTC)


 * reed this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_animated_films/Archive_3#highest_grossing_live_action_-_animated_films_page we had a long talk about spongebob 2 no.1 can be on this list not no. 2 majority of sponge out of water is live action too much. lego only had a couple of live action scenes. even roger had a copule of completely animted scenes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.157.176 (talk) 17:16, 27 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Majority of Sponge out of water is not live-action. If you came to this result, just by watching the trailers then please watch the movie. Only the one-fifth of the movie is live-action. Paleo  cemoski  17:31, 27 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Even the sponge out of water page says it live action-animated note the live action as well as many other sites A113 animtion, http://m.imdb.com/title/tt2279373/ IMDB, Slash films  — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned] comment added by 82.38.157.176 (talk) 23:38, 27 November 2015 (UTC)


 * True, the movie have mixes live-action and trditional animation but it's not a hybrid movie. Like I said before, did you even watched the movie, please answer me. Paleo  cemoski  13:16, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Can u stop it a hybrid end of story we do not have films like Garfield orSpace Jam,. Why? Because they are hybrids — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.157.176 (talk • contribs) 14:54, 28 November 2015‎ (UTC)
 * YES! We've been through this with Roger Rabbit, Garfield, Space Jam, SpongeBob. Just because you have different opinion, doesn't change the fact that on this Talk Page there were numerous discussions about those subjects, unfortunately somebody deleted those over time but you can still find them by clicking pn "View history". Tell you what, someone attempted before to create a live-action/animation hybrid page, but he failed. If you feel so strongly about hybrits films, you try and create another draft for "List of highest-grossing live-action/animated films", but you have to manage to bring strong points of why there should be a page like that, cause that's why the last attempt has failed. This page is for animated films only, and if & when we get into a uncertainty of whether a film has it's place or not on this page, we discuss it first on the talk page and not create a mess. DCF94 (talk) 18:07, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

If u want a Highest grossing hybrid films come over & help out — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.157.176 (talk) 23:28, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Spongebob movies are not similar to hybrid movies, majority of both SB movies are 2D animation; both characters and enviroment. Paleo cemoski  23:16, 30 November 2015 (UTC)


 * It isn't really about if the film is X% animated and X% live action, it is about how it is preceded, we work with sources, and sometimes the sources don't give us the information we need, take for example, we know Titanic had a $300+ on its 2012 re-realse but because the source didn't took the re-realse into consideration we can't add it because we don't have the info that Guinness used to creat that top 10. From this first couple of sources that I found it is considered half animated and half live action, evan if it is 80% animated, the sources specifies that traditional animation appears in the "underwater scenes" and in the "live action world" the main characters are brough out as CGI animation with the rest of the scenes being live action (people & locations), this is more or less like Space Jam. DCF94 (talk) 12:05, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Re release question
If some movies are being released, how come the grosses don't go higher. Like for example, why isn't Fantasia's gross climbing higher? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.58.55 (talk) 13:26, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 1 December 2015
Hello - the link to the movie Inside Out is ambiguous - the link should be piped to Inside Out (2015 film).

Thanks very much!

 PK T (alk)  18:45, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * sorry no one attended to this request. The article is no longer protected. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Message received, and change made. Thank you, Martin!   PK  T (alk)  14:07, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Ruling
I see we going by the rule

Aloeing SOpgbe Bob 2 on this page?

Is there any other films that qualifies now under this rule that did not before like roger, space jam, etc?


 * We have to check those before we do anything, but I don't think there are any other films that can make it on a list. DCF94 (talk) 20:47, 9 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Space Jam and Who Framed Roger Rabbit are similar to The Smurfs or Alvin & the Chipmunks. They take place at mostly live-action enviroments but with 2D characters. According to Rule Seven, they are not animated movies, both movies are animation/live-action hybrids. Paleo  cemoski  00:20, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Qustion
Can't cars & planes cout as a film series aswell like how Highest-grossing franchises and film series got Iron man & MCU, Avengers & MCU?

Like

Just wondering? (If not why?)

This will also gives us 25 franchise (the other 21:dragon ball $344.6 million 22: the jungle book $341.5 million 23: Bambi $302.4 millon 24:rugrats $299.6 millon 25:Wallace & Gromit $298.4 millon)
 * The Planes films are part of the Cars franchise, unlike Iron Man and Avengers who are part of the cinematic universe of MCU but also they are legally their own separate franchise. DCF94 (talk) 17:15, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Classification
The first section of the article has 5 sub-sections and there are few problems with them. Paleo cemoski  01:42, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * 4 of them are animation techniques and the other one is anime (japanese animation), it should be in a different group. We have to delete it or classify highest-grossing animated films in 2 different sections (by technique and by country) but the latter option will make the page much larger.
 * Maybe we should put 2D computer animation and 3D computer animation in the same sub-section but in different lists.
 * I may agree with the 2D computer sub-section, they are almost the same thing as they are using softwares as opposed to traditional hand-drawing and stop motion techniques, but with the anime sub-section I've always been unsure, but making a Highest-grossing animation films by country section might not be a good idea. For one thing it will bring a lot of unsurety because some countries may not have good sources or at all to create a Top 10, 20 or 50 animated films, but also this can be material for a separate page, as this is List of highest-grossing animated films, we have a top 50 of all time, we have Tops for each technics, a highest-grossing by year and highest-grossing franchise, I don't think making a highest-grossing by country section is fit for this page, just like making a highest-grossing action/comedy/horror films section is not fit for the List of highest-grossing films page. If anything we should delete the anime sub-section. DCF94 (talk) 13:21, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree, we should delete the anime sub-section. By the way, we need a complete list of animation techniques and sub-techniques before we put 2D and 3D computer animation in the same sub-section. Paleo cemoski  13:25, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * 2D and 3D we put them both under the Computer animation sub-section, they are nearly the same thing, a Traditional animation sub-section and Stop motion animation sub-section should be enough. DCF94 (talk) 15:21, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Is there any other animation technique we do not have? Are we get ride of anine & 2D compter animtion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.157.176 (talk) 22:26, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Franchise and series sources
In the References under the Franchise and series sources some of the grosses are source (toy story, kung fu panda, etc) but some (Pokemon,coludy with a chacge of meatballs, etc) do not why? And could/should we ref those other franchies? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.157.176 (talk) 12:36, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

peak of Traditional animation
I trying to find peak of Traditional animation if anyone cars to find some thanks
 * It is very difficult because some of the older Disney films had many re-releases and we don't know the exact figures for every re-releases so we can't determine the exact position at that time. DCF94 (talk) 17:57, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

could we give it a try? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.157.176 (talk) 17:59, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * We need to find a source for every worldwide re-release of SW, Bambi, Cinderella, etc. and I don't think we will be able to, you can try, but it will be a headache. DCF94 (talk) 18:05, 21 December 2015 (UTC)