Talk:List of kidnappings/Archive 1

Why is Alejandro Toledo in this article?
Can anyone clarify why Alejandro Toledo, former President of Peru is in this article. I did not see any reference to him being kidnapped or being suspected of being kidnapped. ProfessorPaul 06:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

sapphire hitchcock
sapphire hitchcock was at the school gates when she was taken by a man. when her mother couldn`t find her at the school gate she started to worry. she wasn`t at home she wasn`t anywhere her mum looked. her mum called the police. they didn`t find her. her mother didn`t give up but after a year of looking everyone gave up. but her mum didn`t. three years after the kidnapping a little girl was messing in the bushes when she saw a body. sapphire had been found. she had suffered brutal beatings. her body was found with brusise and cuts all over her. she was so thin which shows she was not taken care of. her atouopsy said she was alive 5 days before she was found. she died of a beating the cracked her skull and ended up with etturnal bleeding. she was left to die. her family still remember her. but her killer... was never found. this is what i was told. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Known4ever (talk • contribs) 00:04, 19 December 2010 (UTC)


 * There is no evidence on the web that this ever happened. andy (talk) 00:20, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Link Rot
Just how is Link Rot dealt with in Wikipedia. It's been a while since my last edit. All the references to delimarveracuervas.blogspot.com lead to dead blog. There is no wayback archive that I can find. Do we just straight up delete the link or do we tag it in the hopes that someone might find a new source to reference? SavannahLion (talk) 16:57, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Dru Sjodin was abducted and murdered; should not be listed under 'suspected' kidnapping
You have Dru Sjodin listed under "suspected" kidnappings; this is not accurate. Dru Sjodin was kidnapped and murdered in 2003. Please check your sources in the future. Here are a few links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Dru_Sjodin http://www.nsopr.gov/en/Home/DruSjodin http://www.drusvoice.com http://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2013/11/ten-years-after-dru-sjodins-abduction-she-reminds-us-every-day-how-precious- http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/classics/dru_sjodin/1_index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.139.179 (talk) 16:15, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Article layout
This article would probably be better laid out as a table. An idea of how to split the columns: --Zanfor21 (talk) 18:02, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Date
 * Name of victim(s)
 * Name of abductor(s)
 * Location
 * Age of victim(s)
 * Outcome (murdered/rescued/escaped/returned/unknown)
 * Other details

List of famous kidnappings - other incidents?
Patricia Hearst is only listed under "modern kidnappings of celebrities and their relatives". Shouldn't she be in the famous kidnappings list as well? The case is legendary in its own right; its not only significant because of who she was. What about Carlie Brucia, the Florida girl whose kidnapping was caught on a survelliance videotape and broadcast to the whole country? Joseph from Genesis, kidnapped by his brothers and sold into slavery?

- PK9 23:56, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


 * More: Amber Hagerman, whose kidnapping inspired the "AMBER alert" and Megan Nicole Kanka, whose kidnapping resulted in "Megan's Law". -PK9 00:06, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


 * This whole article suffers from a general scope issue (after three years!) and confused organization. --Dhartung | Talk 16:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I would call it "List of renowned kidnappings" or "List of widely-publicized kidnappings". I agree with PK9 about Patty Hearst. I was shocked that she wasn't on the first list. I also agree with Dhartung about scope and organization. Lisapaloma (talk) 20:15, 7 July 2011 (UTC)


 * It certainly doesn't cover anywhere near all of the kidnappings of people around the world. Even with regards to famous kidnappings, there are kidnappings on the list that are far from famous, which don't even have a link to the victim.  It all seems rather arbitrary as to who makes the list and who doesn't.Billy Tallent (talk) 14:29, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

How can i find article's on my kidnapping in chicago in 1978 ?! No one was ever caught nor convicted I would like to do my own research can someone please give me advice I know I was on the front page of the Chicago Tribune for at least 3 days Maninblack4ever (talk) 15:11, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

My Name is Raymond Dupree.. I was 5 at the time Maninblack4ever (talk) 15:12, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Here is an article from 1978 that seems to mention your kidnapping. Everymorning (talk) 15:15, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Writing style
"This crime is flourishing in poor countries, where the economic situation can drive people to desperate measures." seems like an amateurish tack-on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.243.195.136 (talk) 02:34, 28 November 2002 (UTC)

Change name
A better name for this article is needed. First and foremost there is no reason for this title to be capitalized since it is not a proper noun. Second the wording itself needs to be revamped. How about List of famous kidnappings? --mav

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article could use a rewrite for style.

- Link to Seka Aleksic in the "Faked kidnappings" section doesn't point to the right person. -

These aren't so much famous kidnappings as kidnappings connected to famous people. I'm not sure if we need a better title, or a better/different organization, perhaps sorting well-known cases like Hearst, Lindbergh, and Aldo Moro from little-known incidents connected to celebrities. Vicki Rosenzweig 02:19 26 Jun 2003 (UTC)

This is a list of modern kidnappings of celebrities' relatives, not a list of famous kidnappings. When I saw the title, I was going to add Edgardo Mortara to the list. He was kidnapped in 1858 at the age of 6. Obviously his case fits this article's title. But he and his family were not celebrities, nor rich. He doesn't fit with the others on this list. Maybe we should start by excluding all the cases that have been mentioned in People magazine. Michael Hardy 01:11, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)


 * I think the thing to do rather than to have moved the article would have been to add Edgardo Mortara and change the tone of the first paragraph of the article. There's no need to limit it to modern celebrities. - Hephaestos 01:16, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I've moved it to list of modern kidnappings of celebrities' relatives. Maybe now the redirect page list of famous kidnappings can be converted into an actual list of famous kidnappings. For the benefit of those who think of Charles Lindbergh as having existed at the Beginning of Time, let me mention here that the fact that it was in the 1930s makes the word modern completely appropriate; recorded history actually began before the 20th century. Michael Hardy 01:17, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

And now I've rephrased the incongruous statement about Lindbergh. Obviously if that had really been the first such incident, then that would prove that it is a recent phenomenon, not that it is not. Michael Hardy 01:28, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)


 * Currently there are a few kidnappings listed that don't the boy was sexually abused and was fi=uked by a police woman! meet the new title, including Agatha Christie's, we could move it back and just add make a section for "modern kidnappings of celebrities' relatives", --User:Docu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Docu (talk • contribs) 22:01, 18 December 2003 (UTC)

Do we really need a Faked kidnappings section?
The section's contents more or less duplicate those in the article Fake kidnapping. We should have either the section or the article, not both. Should we merge the contents of the section fully into the article, and substitute just a link to the article? Or does the article have so little content, and not much likelihood of growing, that we should nominate it for AfD and merge its contents into the section here? Akld guy (talk) 00:55, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Pocahontas?
Any reason not to add Pocahontas to this list? Condorman (talk) 05:20, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Terms and definitions
Not sure how this article was developed, but to refer people taken as prisoners during wartime (as in the French and Indian War) as being kidnapped just clouds the issues. They were in another category. Yes, some non-combatants were held for ransom (in some cases by Indians or enemy forces), but it really had a different meaning than private kidnappings in the contemporary sense. Parkwells (talk) 22:21, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * This article is confusing. When you consider that the crime of kidnapping has existed since before recorded history, it is surprising that this list only includes incidents that are very recent, & very American-centric. Should this list include recorded cases of impressment? Or documented cases of people kidnapped into slavery? I feel this list would work much better if there were an introductory paragraph explaining what was included/excluded in this list. -- llywrch (talk) 10:17, 18 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I agree. Picking a few captives of the border wars between New England and Canada does not capture the scale of the raids during colonial times and warfare including the American Revolution. The article is rather worthless as it is, especially as it includes political abductions (as in the Soviet Union and China), of which there were no doubtless many more. Doesn't anyone know about the tens of thousands of disappearances and executions under Stalin? If people want to write about noted American kidnappings, then have the article restricted to that.Parkwells (talk) 16:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Nigeria
It seems like it will the above country will, or is going to be a new section here. In any case I am marking this article for a possible edit, on this issue. Bokoharamwatch (talk) 16:34, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Johnny Gosch September 5 ,1982 Des Moines IA
Eugene Wade Martin August 12,1984 Des Moines IA Marc James Allen March 29, 1986 Des Moines IA 2600:4040:91E1:7A00:1D90:6699:B40D:A662 (talk) 02:47, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Nikoloz Tskitishvili
Should Nikoloz Tskitishvili even be on the list? He wasn't kidnapped nor his mother or brother, there were just threats? Abandonee (talk) 22:39, 30 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I've now removed him from the list. Abandonee (talk) 09:08, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Shouldnt it be on the News?
On apple news there have never been anytalk about kidnappings and it tells everything- ''so yeahhhhhh i dont trusttrust it too much but good details i love the facts about crime its interesting '' 2A00:23C6:4B43:1301:8978:84DF:4C7A:98F7 (talk) 16:58, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Madelien McCann
I strongly disagree with the entry on the Madelien McCann "kidnapping" on the list of kidnappings of a kidnappers name, nobody has been convicted of this crime and the accused are innocent until proved guilty so Christian Breukners name has to be removed immediately, I'm disgusted that this is allowed here, So this space is just another gossip page I can't trust

Misinformation 2A02:C7C:2E3D:9E00:6C0E:CB1A:C320:7A88 (talk) 15:09, 17 July 2023 (UTC)