Talk:List of largest cities in California by population/Archive 1

San Francisco
The characterization of San Francisco in this list makes it sound mostly like a tourism destination; its economic, cultural, and historical importance is much greater than that. Compare the first line of the Los Angeles description:


 * Los Angeles is one of the world's centers of media, business, and international trade.

to the first line of the San Francisco description:


 * San Francisco is a popular international tourist destination renowned for its beauty, cosmopolitan flair, steep rolling hills, and eclectic mix of Victorian and modern architecture.

I it would be appropriate for the first line to reflect San Francisco's role as the main urban hub of Northern California and of a region that is the center of the world's technology industry.

ViaJFK (talk) 19:07, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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What about Lynwood? &mdash; T h e - t h i n g  (Talk)   (Stuff I did)   21:33, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I did a full clean-up of this page, trimming the list to 100 cities and using a verifiable source (in this case, California Department of Finance estimates for January 1, 2006) for the population figures. Dtcomposer 21:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Why San Diego come first if it has less inhabitants (650k < 973k) ? Or is the number wrong? See:

2 	San Diego 	650,800 	San Diego 3 	San Jose 	973,672 	Santa Clara

Pao--

Full List
As the spreadsheet listing all of the cities in the state by population is available, why not include the whole list?--Krimsley 20:51, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

pictures and descriptions
I didn't change the order or any of the original information. But for lack of a Cities of California article, I figured this could do the deed. Do reply with your thoughts. I pulled the pictures off the individual city pages. More pictures could easily be added. If anyone is able to put in some more fleshed out descriptions, I would be most appreciative. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaronDierkes (talk • contribs) 09:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Note, the above link for Cities of California takes you to List of Cities of California which is an entirely different idea. Lists need not provide information other than A, B, C, etc. There seem to be a number of "Cities of" and "List of Cities of" articles out there and perhaps I'm not entirely clear on the distinction. If you think that my addition here should be undone or put somewhere else, do comment here so that we may discuss it.DaronDierkes (talk) 09:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Fresno factoid
I changed the note about Fresno being the largest city in California not adjacent to the Pacific Ocean. San Jose is larger and also not on the Pacific, although it is of course on San Francisco bay. I changed it to read that its the largest not adjacent to salt water, which I'd bet is what was meant by the original writer. Dappawit (talk) 04:27, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Historical largest cities
I propose appropriating the census data for the US Version for a historical list. Until it is approved, I will be building it on my userpage. Samhuddy (talk) 02:40, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Update
I updated the list to use the January 1, 2010 figures from the California Department of Finance and the July 1, 2008 figures from the United States Census Bureau. Dtcomposer (talk) 01:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The 2009 estimates from the U.S. Census is not available form it's website, thus, the list needs to be updated. --Moreau36 (talk) 07:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Merge to List of incorporated cities and towns in California?
It seems to me that this article should be merged into List of incorporated cities and towns in California since that article seems to be better organized, has more content, and covers all 459 cities and 22 towns in the state (between which there is no legal difference in California), instead of only the 100 largest covered in this article. The other article is also easier to read.

Also, the "Description" factoids column on this page seems random at best.

That article does have a "see also" to this article, but it seems like List of incorporated cities and towns in California performs all the functions of this article, and better.

If anyone agrees, I'll throw the "Merge" tags onto the two articles.


 * After a year, added merge tags. Will be figuring out the best way to perform the merge shortly. Darkest tree (talk) 20:18, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Darkest tree (talk) 20:06, 10 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Changing List of largest California cities by population into a redirect would do the trick, I believe, but it might be worth looking at what's been done for other U.S. states. —Stepheng3 (talk) 23:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Are you sure this is L.A.?
The pix for L.A. looks like Denver or somewhere; the mountains are majastic! If I plop down Peg Man anywhere in the L.A. area, even at the base of mountain ranges, the mountains in the distance are pitifully below the rooftops of any buildings, whereas the mountains in the pix soar! What the heck is going on? Where EXACTLY was the pix taken? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CampKohler (talk • contribs) 19:28, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * According to Wikimedia Commons, the photo was taken from 34° 0' 30.96" N, 118° 21' 51.84" W, and the mountains in the background are the San Gabriel mountains. Apparently the photo was shot from Kenneth Hahn State Recreation Area near Culver City. —Stepheng3 (talk) 23:14, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Of course it's LA. Aside from the fact that those buildings clearly are downtown Los Angeles, the San Gabriel Mountains reach up to 10,000 feet tall. The picture was taken with a telephoto lens, making them look more impressive. The tallest mountains in that picture are about 38 miles distant from downtown LA. That's actually a little closer than the Rockies are to Denver. It's a little-known fact outside of SoCal that we are ringed by impressive mountain ranges. You don't see them in Google Street View because those photos were taken with a wide-angle lens, making everything appear small and distant, even objects that are relatively near to the camera. Darkest tree (talk) 19:50, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Jurupa Valley
I assume Jurupa Valley is currently not on this list because it was incorporated after the 2010 census, correct? I have thus temporarily a note addressing this fact. Zzyzx11 (talk) 22:42, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Santa Ana
The buildings in the photo for Santa Ana are in fact located in the neighboring city of Costa Mesa. I would suggest using a photo of the downtown Santa Ana skyline, but cannot find one on Wikimedia Commons. Perhaps a photo of the Old Orange County Courthouse (also located in Santa Ana and a well-recognized local landmark) would suffice? Kneel28 (talk) 21:25, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Santa Clarita, annexations and the census
The 2010 census is nice baseline, but what of cities that have since expanded their boundaries. Case in point: the city of Santa Clarita, through annexations of areas that were previously unincorporated LA County, now has over 200,000 residents. Should an exception be made? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.60.38.10 (talk) 16:21, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 1 March 2015

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: '''Largest cities of the European Union by population within city limits moved. No consensus''' for the other request. EdJohnston (talk) 22:09, 9 March 2015 (UTC) EdJohnston (talk) 22:09, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

– Its not a matter of possession. Its in or out. An alternate title might be List of largest cities in countries in the European Union by population within city limits which is accurate but a little long. GregKaye 11:10, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * List of largest California cities by population → List of largest cities in California by population
 * Largest cities of the European Union by population within city limits → List of largest cities in the European Union by population within city limits
 * Support the first, weak support the second - the second's original title at least sounds natural-ish. The first one is definitely ripe for a move. Good eyes, nominator. Red Slash 00:45, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose the first, no comment on the second. "California cities" and "cities in California" are both equally acceptable and I don't see a good reason to change it. (In fact, no reason is given in the nomination at all.) "California cities" is also more WP:CONCISE for what it's worth. -- Calidum  20:12, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose 1st, no comment on the second per Caldium.  CookieMonster755  (talk)   05:03, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Support both - looking at Category:Lists of cities by population, the proposed form "List of cities in X by population" is the most commonly used for these types of lists, and we should standardise on that. It's also grammatically the best. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 11:01, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose. I see no problem to solve here. Andrewa (talk) 17:28, 9 March 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

estimates for July 2014
I'm updating the table to use the latest estimates from the Census Bureau. Please give me a couple hours without editing conflicts.—Stepheng3 (talk) 16:33, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done now.—Stepheng3 (talk) 17:23, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Not sure what happened, but more than half the cities have had their numbers changed. I have corrected them back to the cited Census Bureau source. Dtcomposer (talk) 00:10, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

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