Talk:List of liches

"Fictional"?
List of fictional liches? How many non-fictional ones are there? Corvus cornix 20:51, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe this is referring to the fact that these are uses of the term lich within different fiction. there is a non-fictional definition of lich on the main page to do with lich gate etc. Drag-5 14:59, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * also, I should add.. if you did not put "fictional" this would mislead people into believing liches were a real phenomena. Drag-5 15:01, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Lich is originally just an archaic word for corpse. So a list of non-fictional liches would simply be a list of all dead people, which would not be very useful for an encyclopaedia. Shinobu (talk) 18:13, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Mumm-Ra
Isn't Mumm-Ra the Ever-Living some sort of lich too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.252.229.162 (talk) 18:32, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Horcrux
does the Horcrux count as a type of lich? --RichardVeryard (talk) 03:29, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Horcrux is J.K. Rowling's implementation of lich's phylactery. --Muhaha (talk) 18:09, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Vecna
No links to a Vecna page? This is THE original D&D Lich from Grayhawk, I am surprised he isn't on this list.

Jesus edit skirmishes
It looks like there is disagreement on whether Jesus fits into the definition of a lich or not. Let's have some pros & cons. --Palnatoke (talk) 20:50, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * How about reliable sources supporting Jesus being a lich? Without that, the information doesn't belong in the article, because it's WP:OR without reliable sourced backing it up. - SudoGhost 20:56, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * OK; I'll go look for some. In the meantime, please source or remove the unsourced claims that are in the article already. TIA, --Palnatoke (talk) 11:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * How about some sources supporting ANY of the characters on the list? If you are going to exclude Jesus for lack of references, every single other character must also be removed. TechBear  &#124; Talk &#124; Contributions 11:50, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * If you're contesting any of these entries, then look for a source that supports it, and if you cannot find one after a reasonable search, then remove them. Simple as that.  I looked for reliable sources supporting Jesus in the list, I couldn't find any.  Unsourced, uncontested entries existing in the article is not an argument to pile on to that sourcing issue, especially when that entry is contested. - SudoGhost 12:23, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The burden of proof lays with the person who wants something included, not with the person who wants something removed. TechBear  &#124; Talk &#124; Contributions 14:15, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * That's exactly the point. Never once did I say anything about burden of proof when removing the entries, but that doesn't mean you add to the problem by adding more unsourced content.  That PROD seemed a bit WP:POINTy, since a quick google search can provide sources for many of the entries, and the others can be removed.  There's a difference between the article needing improvement and the article needing to be deleted.  If you're going to improve the article, then improve the article.  - SudoGhost 18:36, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Kostschey Bessmertniy
Well, I remember reading this before, and there was Kostschey Bessmertniy (Russian - Кощей Бессмертный) mentioned either here, or in the "lich" article. And now he is not, but why? He is clearly a lich - he was a sorcerer-king, he was evil, he could not be killed until a needle containing his soul was broken. He is from Slavic fairy-tale.