Talk:List of massively multiplayer online role-playing games/Archive 2

Shroud of the Avatar
Shroud of the Avatar meets the criteria for an MMORPG, yet user Woodroar keeps taking it off the list. I do not see where it fails to meet the criteria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.198.28.28 (talk) 14:38, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The FAQ published by the developers says it's only a multiplayer game, not an MMO. If you can find a reliable source that says otherwise, please bring it here or reference it in the article. I hope this helps. Cheers! Woodroar (talk) 15:11, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Omitted Games that should be added to the comparison page.
Please add omitted MMORPGS here, in an attempt to clear up this list a bit.

Silkroad Online : Fairly large player base, quite popular in non-western countries (as in asia, mideast, australia...etc)

Cabal Online : again, even the beta was large in scale.

Fury (computer game) : Terrible game, but still has a somewhat large player base

Perfect World : Touted as the Chinese World of Warcraft

Matrix Online : somewhat a glaring omission considering the concept of the movie and storyline IS of itself the concept of an MMORPG

that's all i can think of at the moment —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.148.53 (talk) 03:49, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The Matrix Online is already on there. The rest are non-notable. Wyatt Riot (talk) 18:32, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I was referring to the Comparison Page, not the List page (both discussions link to this page), Matrix online is NOT on that page. and how can something like perfect world which is referred to as the Chinese World of Warcraft(and which claims it has 30 mil users, mainly Chinese) be non-notable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.148.53 (talk) 20:43, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

If we're trying to be comprehensive, then the comparison page should contain all MMOrpgs that are still active and that have sizable populations —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.148.53 (talk) 20:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


 * You're right about the Matrix Online not being included on the Comparisons page, but you'd be better off mentioning it at Talk:Comparison of massively multiplayer online role-playing games rather than here. As far as being comprehensive, Wikipedia really only cares about notability.  You won't find an article about every game that people make up some day, and comparison and list articles shouldn't mention them, either.  To be included on Wikipedia, games must be the subject of multiple reliable, third-party published sources, which (theoretically) should be true of games with sizable populations.  So, if you wish those games to be mentioned here or on the comparison page, you'll first want to request an article, or create an account and write your own.  Wyatt Riot (talk) 18:26, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

The games i listed already HAVE wikipedia pages and therefore i guess are notable. and as i mentioned before, the comparison page discussion link, leads to this page.


 * You're right. If something is notable enough to have a Wikipedia page, it's notable enough to be listed in a list of notable things that it's also a member of. Banaticus (talk) 04:46, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Never mind, they have already been added to the page. Banaticus (talk) 04:54, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Remove games that have been shut down
Infinity being what it is, if things continue, eventually this list will consist of nothing but shut down games with a few currently running games. As it now stands, about 30% of the games listed have already shut down or were canceled before starting (about 60, with about 150 other games). I propose that all of those games that are no longer running be removed from this list. Banaticus (talk) 04:51, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I removed the cancelled and shut down games, which was almost 30% of the total page size. Banaticus (talk) 10:48, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I guess I'm mostly indifferent, but I'd also like to see if there are other opinions on this. On one hand, you're right that the page size was getting unwieldy. But on the other hand, this article serves as a list to other articles, not to the games themselves, and it shouldn't matter if the game no longer exists because the articles certainly do. Perhaps it would be better to fork the content into a similar list for cancelled games? Just my $0.02. Woodroar (talk) 14:33, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and fork it. All the information is still there.  I figured about 20 days with no response was about as much consensus as I was going to get. :) Banaticus (talk) 01:54, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No, you're good. :) I saw your original message here, meant to get back to it, and didn't. I guess I'll try to get around to forking it one of these days. But it's not super important and I've got other things on my mind right now. Cheers! Woodroar (talk) 04:54, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Statistics
How many active players does each game have? How about registered users? What is the biggest free game in terms of these? How about non-free game? --85.76.118.50 (talk) 03:59, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

How many players are online right now ( if this info is publicly available ) ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.160.215.12 (talk) 10:24, 31 May 2016 (UTC)