Talk:List of mayors and lord mayors of Perth

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"Perth City Council

MAYORS

Mayors	Period Of Office George Shenton	1880 S H Parker George Shenton	1881 George Shenton	1882 84 G Randell	1885 George Shenton	1886 Sir George Shenton	1887  88 Dr E Scott	1889  91 E Keane	1891 E Keane S H Parker	1892 Alexander Forrest	1893  95 Alexander Forrest	1900 W Brookman S H Parker William T Loton	1901 William T Loton	1902 Harry Brown	1903 Harry Brown	1904 Harry Brown	1905 Sydney Stubbs	1906  7 T G A Molloy	1911  12 J H Prowse	1913  ] 4 John Nicholson	1915 Frank R Rea	19] 6  17 William Lathlain	1918  20 Sir William Lathlain	1921  23 James T Franklin	1927 Hon James T Franklin	1928  29

Perth City Council/City of Perth

LORD MAYORS

LORD MAYORS	Period of Office Hon. James T Franklin	1929  30 Hon. Sir William Lathlain	1930  32 Hon. James T Franklin	1932  34 Joseph J Poynton	1934  37 Charles Harper	1937  1939 Thomas W Meagher	1940  45 Joseph Totterdell	(Knighted 1953) 1946  53 James Murray	1953  55 Harold R Howard	(Knighted 1961) 1955  64 Charles J B Veryard	1964  67 Thomas E Wardle	(Knighted 1970) 1967  72 Ernst Lee Steere	(Knighted 1978) 1972  78 Frederick C Chaney	(Knighted 1982) 1978  82 Michael A Michael	1982  88 Charles F Hopkins	1988  91 Reginald G Withers	1991  94 Dr Peter Nattrass	1995  Present Perth City Council/City of Perth

TOWN CLERKS/CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICERS

Town Clerks	Period Of Office T Farrelly	1858  64 J G Flindel	1864  65 T Smith	1865  69 T Lazenby	1869  81 W E Victor	1881  97 Harry E Petherick	1897  1900 William E Bold	1900  44 W A (Allen) Mc Green	1944  66 G O (Ossie) Edwards	1966  81 Reginald F Dawson	1981  94 Garry Hunt Chief Executive Officer	1995  2002 Frank Edwards Chief Executive Officer	2002 - Present

PERTH TOWN TRUST (1838  1858)

CHAIRMAN

G LEAK	1838  40 R HINDS	1841 W B ANDREWS	1842 THOMAS HELMS	1843  45 JAMES PERKINS	1846  48 THOMAS HELMS, D SCOTT	1849 H L COLE	1853 GEORGE SHENTON	1854  55 GOERGE SHENTON, L LEAKE	1856 GEORGE SHENTON	1857  58

PERTH CITY COUNCIL

CHAIRMAN

H L COLE	1858 60 J G C CARR	1861  63 J G C CARR, A HILLMAN, G HAYSON	1864 J G C CARR	1865  68 J G C CARR, G GLYDE	1869 G GLYDE	1870  73 G RANDELL	1874 GEORGE SHENTON	1875  77 S H PARKER	1878  79 Moondyne 01:57, 6 October 2006 (UTC)"

Sir Ernest Lee-Steere
Sir Ernest was LM of Perth 1972-78. He was born 22 December 1912, and he's either 95 now, or dead. I can find no info about his death on the internet. If he has died, can anyone advise me when he died? -- JackofOz (talk) 04:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * A belated reply. As far as I can tell he's still kicking.  I knocked up Ernest Henry Lee-Steere anyway. I'll use your date of birth. Djanga 13:10, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Well done. Thanks. --  JackofOz (talk) 20:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * He's dead now (9 January 2011). --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  07:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Sir Charles Nathan
I've removed Charles Nathan from the list. Both the ADB and David Black's biographical register of WA parliamentarians say that he was mayor in 1914 (or from 1914 to 1915), but going through Trove I can find no mention of his ever being mayor – something like that would obviously come up in an obituary. This article in The West clearly states that Prowse was immediately succeeded by Nicholson as mayor. Not sure how the Charles Nathan myth got started.  IgnorantArmies  (talk)  08:06, 18 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Good catch! The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 08:28, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * ditto. Nice work IA. Perhaps a footnote against Nicholson explaining the discrepancy is appropriate. Moondyne (talk) 08:31, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. I can only assume Mossenson at the ADB got it wrong somehow (or one of his sources), and that was carried forward by Black and Bolton. I notice Nathan wasn't mentioned on the list you got from the City of Perth (above).  IgnorantArmies  (talk)  10:11, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Does someone maybe want to tell the ADB so this rumor stops? Trove, particularly at its current depth, has provided an opportunity to fact-check their articles that didn't exist before and that they didn't have at the time. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 10:21, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 1 May 2016

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move the article has been established within the RM time period and thus defaulting to not moved. Additionally, the !votes for "oppose" were significantly more detailed and thus resulting in a greater consensus on the !votes. &mdash; Music1201  talk  22:13, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

List of Mayors and Lord Mayors of Perth → List of mayors and lord mayors of Perth – All other lists of this type are spelt without caps, except for the name of the city. In June 2008 this list was moved to the correct spelling, but that move was reverted without explanation. Jack of Oz  [pleasantries]  03:47, 1 May 2016 (UTC) -- Relisted.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   08:42, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Oppose. Per Amakuru. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 17:50, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Support per nom and per MOS:JOBTITLES.  IgnorantArmies  (talk)  09:05, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * comment wouldnt that be for the Mayor/Lord Mayor City of Perth as thats the full title and not metro Perth which are two separate entities. Gnangarra 10:17, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * All the other major city mayor articles are at just the city. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 10:38, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. "Lord Mayor of Perth" is a proper name, similar to "King of France", a title mentioned at MOS:JOBTITLES. See also List of Presidents of the United States for a similar example to this. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 16:57, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The other lists, I'm afraid, are simply wrong. It's List of Prime Ministers of Australia, after all. Frickeg (talk) 03:14, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Huh? - this requested move has sat with 2 supports and 4 clear opposes, and a weird embedded relist has been inserted inside the text above today. I fail to see why the 'relist' which says nothing has been inserted.  relisted?  where? why?  there is insufficient support for the move and thats it. JarrahTree 14:13, 24 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Requested move 5 May 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved. List of mayors of Perth has been suggested, but there is no explicit consensus on it yet. Proposing an additional move request now for that suggestion is permissible (suggest listing all similarly titled pages for consistency). (closed by non-admin page mover) ~ Aseleste  (t, e &#124; c, l) 14:02, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

List of Mayors and Lord Mayors of Perth → List of mayors and lord mayors of Perth – This move was denied in 2016, but the style manual has changed since. Would now conform to both MOS:JOBTITLES as well as all other similarly named articles: Note: the talk page title doesn't match the current article title. Woko Sapien (talk) 13:49, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * List of mayors and lord mayors of Melbourne
 * List of mayors and lord mayors of Brisbane
 * List of mayors and lord mayors of Adelaide
 * List of mayors and lord mayors of Hobart
 * List of mayors and lord mayors of Darwin
 * List of mayors and lord mayors of Newcastle
 * List of mayors and lord mayors of Wollongong
 * List of mayors and lord mayors of Parramatta
 * Disregard the note about the talk page; it has since been moved. --Woko Sapien (talk) 14:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Support per the consensus reached at Talk:List of presidents of the United States/Archive 13 changing the title of an article which ironically was used to oppose this move during the previous request.--65.92.163.98 (talk) 21:49, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Another example used to oppose before was List of Prime Ministers of Australia, which is now at List of prime ministers of Australia. —&#8239;BarrelProof (talk) 06:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Support lowercase plural per MOS:JOBTITLES and various RMs of recent years. I think that in some similar prior cases, similar titles were simplified to just "List of mayors of X", and that might also be worth considering. —&#8239;BarrelProof (talk) 05:00, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * One prior case was List of Mayors and Lord Mayors of Manchester, which was moved to List of mayors of Manchester. —&#8239;BarrelProof (talk) 06:06, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Suggest  as more concise: See the entries in Lists of lord mayors in the United Kingdom. Many of those have titles that are "List of mayors of X". —&#8239;BarrelProof (talk) 00:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support per MOS:JOBTITLES and to make it WP:CONSISTENT with the other articles. Rublov (talk) 14:17, 6 May 2021 (UTC)