Talk:List of members of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles (LDS Church)

"nationality"
I have started a discussion on the usage of "nationality", as it relates to this page and the templates it uses, at Template_talk:Infobox_Latter_Day_Saint_biography. If interested see that page.--- ARTEST4ECHO (talk) 15:46, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Apostle
I think we need to Standardize the "Apostle" listing. I get why some are listed a "Latter Day Saint Apostle" vs. "LDS Church Apostle". That is no what I'm talking about.

The problem is not all list "LDS Church" or "Latter Day Saint" at all, instead saying only "Apostle". Personally I think the "LDS Church" or "Latter Day Saint" are redundant and unnecessary, as the articles are all about their positions in the LDS Church, meaning it's not needed. After all the Apostle only used parentheticals in order to distinguish between the Apostle page and itself, meaning it isn't using "Latter Day Saint" or "LDS Church" as part of the actual name, like we are in some of the infoboxes.

However, I admit don't have a strong objection ether. I'm just going for consistency. So what do you all think?--- ARTEST4ECHO(Talk) 13:20, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Personally, I would just to simply go with "Apostle." Since it should be patently obvious to any reader that this article (or any article where this particular issue comes into play) concerns the Latter Day Saint movement, there shouldn't be any need to say: "LDS Apostle" or "LDS Church," or any of that.  That's just my opinion, nothing more. - Ecjmartin (talk) 16:44, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * There's an important reason for the distinction of either LDS Church apostle or Latter Day Saint apostle. The term "Latter Day Saint apostles" refers to those who were appointed and ordained as an apostle before the succession crisis of 1844. After the crisis, those who were solely apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints were referred to as LDS Church apostles. It is an important and necessary distinction. I would be adamantly opposed to any change in title of this page, because there's a good reason for showing the difference between the two organizations. --Jgstokes (talk) 20:30, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Update in CES Board Membership
I was puzzled to see that the section for current apostles on this list did not include updates on the Church Board of Education members who are currently serving. Though no official source was listed to verify this, it appears that Dallin H. Oaks and Jeffrey R. Holland are serving on the board. However, David A. Bednar is also mentioned by the same source as being at the inaugural ceremonies, so I listed him as a board member as well, since, until the incapacitation of Richard G. Scott, there have consistently been 3 apostles on the board for several years now. I know already that some may contend Bednar was merely there in his capacity as a former BYU-Idaho president. But if that's the case, why weren't Kim B. Clark, Church Education Commissioner, and Henry B. Eyring, First Counselor in the First Presidency and First Vice Chairman of the Board who also had been a president of Ricks College before the name change, in attendance at the inauguration as well? There is a strong case for listing Bednar as a board member, which is why I listed him as such in this article. If you disagree, please post here. --Jgstokes (talk) 07:54, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * See response on talk page for Church Educational System. ChristensenMJ (talk) 12:37, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

The calling of each apostle
I was a little concerned when I looked at the list today and saw that some apostles were being listed as having been called by a Church President when in some cases the calling has been extended by counselors in the First Presidency. I know, for example, that the calling and ordination of Elders Nelson and Oaks was handled by President Gordon B. Hinckley under the direction of President Spencer W. Kimball. I imagine this is also true of Elder Ballard's call. I know that Elder Wirthlin was given his call by President Hinckley, and Elders Scott and Hales were given their callings and ordinations by President Thomas S. Monson. Shouldn't this be duly noted in the sections that discuss their calls? I also know of a few other apostles that have been called by other counselors in the First Presidency, so that should also be noted. Am I being needlessly nitpicky, or is this a genuine issue that should be addressed?--Jgstokes (talk) 07:59, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think it refers to the individual who actually extended the calling. It refers to the president of the church under whose authority the apostle was called. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:44, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree with Good Ol’factory. I have changed the Nelson article back to the way it was, consistent with this view. ChristensenMJ (talk) 13:57, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

I can see where my concern might have been ill-advised, and I apologize. All I was hoping was for some consensus to be established on the issue, and since you two are in apparent agreement about this topic, who am I to raise any further issues about it? Thanks for the discussion. --Jgstokes (talk) 00:09, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Bio Pictures
Why aren't the official LDS bio pictures being used for each Apostle in this article? The LDS Church publishes high quality head shots for each general authority and yet in this article there is a hodge-podge of poor pictures or none at all. Is there a copyright problem? As a perceived authority on the internet, I would think that the Wiki page for Apostles ought to include all their current official church bio photos. I would have added myself but then I thought maybe there was a reason they were omitted. Any ideas? Pantherjad (talk) 17:40, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The bio photos published by the LDS Church are owned and the copyright of Intellectual Reserve. For living people, Wikipedia generally requires photos that are "free" – ie, those for which the original owner has waived his copyright. Even images that owners allow to be used for a "non-commercial purpose" cannot be used on Wikipedia. For the relevant policy, see Image use policy. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:10, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

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 * Robert D. Hales.jpg

A chart?
Not sure if the guys who usually edit this page are interested in having this join the work they've put in, but I thought you might find it worth a look. Also, not sure why it looks small here, but I trust y'all know how to deal with that. P. LeMeilleur 04:02, 13 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PrestonLeMeilleur (talk • contribs)