Talk:List of metonyms

The DNA example is a metaphor I believe not a metonym. (Because we are transferring ideas about DNA, not using "DNA" as a stand in for the person himself.)67.2.152.163 (talk) 13:45, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

No, DNA is a metonym; a person's core nature is conceptually contiguous with, but not identical to, a person's genetic material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.73.54.252 (talk) 03:47, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Ring is not a metonym for a relationship. I don't mean the Beyonce song does not have wide enough cultural appeal to have created a metonym, but that even in the song the ring referred to a ring, not a relationship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.176.105.138 (talk) 13:18, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

This list is rather place name oriented. I understand why this can be useful as a reference list, however some opening text explaining that metonyms don't have to be just places might be useful or at least not using a place as the opening example. My suggestion: "The following is a list of common metonyms. A metonym is a figure of speech used in rhetoric in which a thing or concept is not called by its own name, but by the name of something intimately associated with that thing or concept. For instance calling farm workers 'Hands', a car 'Wheels', or the monarch 'the Crown.' (See below for more examples.)"67.2.152.163 (talk) 13:45, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

A great many of these are not metonyms; in particular, simply adapting a word into a different part of speech or grammatical function (for instance a verb into a noun that performs that verb) does not make something a metonym. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.73.54.252 (talk) 03:43, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello, shouldn't "throne" and "chair" (used in lieu of "chairperson") be added to this list? Aeortiz (talk) 19:57, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

The Bits Removed
This is in reference to 'Kremlin', 'West End', 'Stormont', 'Holyrood', 'Palace', 'P45', et al.

Not 'offended' in any way Cnilep. I thought to myself when I put Kremlin in that maybe a reference is needed. The annoying things about this subject is that

A) There are so many - where does necessary detail disintegrate into the trivial? B) The exact meaning can change C) We encounter them all the time, but it is difficult to find anything 'explicit'.

The latter was the biggest problem here. For instance, reading through the week's newspapers, there are 3 usages of 'Kremlin' in this manner and one of 'West End' (in the arts section) - but that is not quite a referable source. (for me to 'push' this as a source would be 'original research'.) Should I find better options for refs (I'll keep my eyes peeled, I'd be amazed if not out there somewhere) I'll resubmit.

Even more annoyingly, most of the ones I included has a reference in WP itself - but you cannot use WP as a reference to WP. (None of the WP articles contains an independent reference about its use as a metonym, it simply states the fact.

Don't worry, I thought that might just happen. When I made my first contrib a few years ago I spent ages reading the guidelines. :)

Ekh

Ekhmuel (talk) 12:42, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Problems
Are all metonyms parts of the literal/original generality?

There seems to be an error here:
 * Zion | A mountain located in Israel where Jerusalem | The city of Jerusalem; usually in biblical text or context

NoToleranceForIntolerance (talk) 22:04, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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Bangalore?
Is Bangalore used metonymically to refer to the technology industry of India? Superdadsuper (talk) 03:39, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Good suggestion! Added. I also wonder if some of the locations associated with the death of Jesus, e.g. Calvary especially, could be added because of their use as metaphors for arduous torment, spiritual anguish etc. Blythwood (talk) 00:32, 15 September 2022 (UTC)