Talk:List of minor characters in Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series)

Proposed guidelines
I'm suggesting that characters be added to the list because because of a combination of a)episode count and b)importance to the story. I believe that recurring characters (those that appear in more than one episode) should be on the list, as well as characters that are *heavily* featured in only one episode (Sesha Abinell, Commander Garner, et al).

I've added an episode count (using IMDB and BattlestarWiki as sources), to illustrate how often each character appears. I feel it is important to draw a distinction between characters that only show up three times and characters that show up twenty times. I counted the miniseries as an episode, and the webisodes as an episode. Is there an easy way to keep it up to date? Perhaps some sort of notation that says "episode count as of [Season, Episode]"?

Does this sound okay? Any other suggestions? Monsieurxander 13:07, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Sounds good, Monsieurxander. Characters such as Hotdog, who appear in many episodes and, while adding little but "recognizable pilot on Galactica" elements to the story, do have numerous lines and more than just background appearances, should be on the lists. Likewise, characters like Garner and Phelan, who only appear in one episode but that episode revolves around them, should be on the list. The ones I would avoid are characters like Mr. Hoshi, who appear in multiple episodes but do very little plot-wise, and the nurse in Scattered, who is in one episode but has less than a very central part in the story, should remain off the list. Helmandsare 00:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The paramedic/nurse in Scattered recurs several times, the last time (so far) in "Downloaded." Just thought I'd nitpick a bit. ;-) Seriously, I'm still on the fence about the status of characters like Hoshi and the paramedic (Several of Hoshi's appearances come with no dialogue). Monsieurxander 12:20, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Some characters are significant without being heavily featured, like the Cylon Hybrid, which is the heart of a Basestar... 132.205.44.128 06:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right. I added the Hybrid to the list both because she's an important part of the story, and because, as a Cylon, she's expected to recur. Monsieurxander 12:20, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I object to characters that appear in more than one episode appearing on this list. Actually, I guess I object to the list name more than anything else. If it's "recurring" characters, we can't include characters from single episodes. If we want to include prominent single-episode characters, the list should be moved back to "minor". Minor doesn't mean completely insignificant. A character like Abinell is significant to one episode, but minor to the entire series. -- Fru1tbat 13:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, re: list name. "Minor" seems to fit better. I don't think any of these characters have passed the 20 episode mark, and, by my count, 42 episodes have aired (including the miniseries and the webisodes). I agree that "minor" doesn't mean they can't have a significant impact. Monsieurxander 06:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure that episode count is necessarily the right criterion to apply here, at least in some cases. Specifically, I don't think that Samuel Anders and, to a lesser extent, Tory Foster, qualify as "minor characters", as they have been revealed to be central to the remaining plot of the show.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.173.56.106 (talk) 00:20, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Pictures
Does anyone believe that this list should be changed? I believe that small thumbnails should be added to the webpage for clarity and more information. Does anyone oppose this? Please respond before I spend my time putting pictures on here just to get them deleted. Sith Penguin Lord 00:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Hoshi
What is wrong about doing an article on Mr. Hoshi. He is a part of the story and I believe deserves an article and at least a picture. &#91;&#91;User:Sith Penguin Lord&#124;Sith Penguin Lord]] 23:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Sith, Hoshi is not a major character, and neither is Narcho and Stinger - those characters who have only minor scenes should stay in the main list and not have their own articles. If they have larger roles later on, then yes, give them a page, but when someone is on screen for 2 seconds an episode it's not worth it. Cyberia23 08:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Cylon versions
I've added Cylon versions of each model that are significant or recurring, without being a main or major character. I should note that each version of each model *is* a different character, the same way that fictional twins are two characters and not one.

Though, shouldn't the Season Three Number Three be a major character? (She's listed as New Caprica Leader Three, here, for wont of a better title) I think she might be good to go to the Regular Characters template.


 * D'Anna Biers - one episode, major focus of episode
 * Armistice Station Six - one of the most memorable scenes... because it is a statement of how the new BSG is different from the old.
 * Shelley Godfrey - major plotpoint for an episode
 * Gina - featured over several episodes.

I have not listed Sharon Agathon or Sharon Valerii, as they are both regular characters. This also applies to Caprica Six and Six in Baltar's Head.

132.205.93.19 03:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


 * This is wholly unnecessary. All of the Sixes are already covered on the main Six page. And D'Anna Biers is already included under the "Number Three" listing. Monsieurxander 09:21, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

List of incidental characters with apparent import
This is a list of suggestions for characters that might make the list, but are borderline in such cases.


 * Admiral Nagala - Fleet Admiral of Colonial Forces after the fall of Picon Fleet Headquarters, aboard Battlestar Atlantia, died with the loss of Atlantia.
 * Admiral Cormer - orders BSG41 (Battlestar Valkyrie) and Commander Adama to a Stealthstar to penetrate the Armistice Line.


 * George Birch - CAG of Galactica after Apollo's desertion during the Roslin-v-Adama crisis.


 * I'm against all three. The first two have never even appeared, and have each only been referenced once. The third had a minor role in exactly one episode. Monsieurxander 09:11, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Merge from Kacey (Battlestar Galactica)
merge

I think it's a good idea, though I didn't propose it, I just created this discussion area. Zyxwvutsrqp 23:49, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


 * For which I thank you. CovenantD 23:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Definitely merge. Both with Kacey and every other minor character. Monsieurxander 12:21, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think you'll get into trouble merging say Colonel Fisk, Admiral Cain, etc. 132.205.93.19 02:53, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge. User:BalthCat / 156.34.229.172 05:00, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The consensus reached is to merge .

Merge from Jack Fisk (Battlestar Galactica)
no merge
 * Oppose the Jack Fisk article is fairly large and comprehensive. It would not merge well. 132.205.44.134 00:27, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose, for the same reasons as given by 132.205.44.134. Sullivan.t.j 01:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Boomer
I don't know what kind of info should be included but Boomer isn't part of the known cylons in the listHalbared 09:54, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Boomer isn't a minor character, so isn't on the list... 70.55.86.111 03:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Baltars saviour
Does anyone remmeber the name of the reporter who thinks Balter is a prophet, and then rescues him at the end? --70.51.10.102 04:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Her name wasn't revealed yet. Cyberia23 21:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

merge from Diana Seelix
no merge

Diana Seelix should be merged into here, because she is a minor character, without much characterization. 132.205.44.134 00:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * OPPOSE - Seelix is becoming more involved with the show and her character is finally developing especially toward the end of 3rd season. I think she deserves her own article pending her increased screen time, especially since she's becoming involved with Samuel Anders and has to cope with his being a Cylon, his fling with Tory Foster, and Starbuck's return. Her story isn't over yet. Cyberia23 21:39, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * OPPOSE &mdash; Seelix has played a significant role in several story-lines to date (Kobol, the New Caprica Resistance, its aftermath ("Collaborators")) and appears to be headed for further character development (her relationship with Anders and the fallout from that, her flight training). Sullivan.t.j 05:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * OPPOSE- The Seelix article could already be longer than it is. She has continually become a bigger character throughout season III, and all signs point to her role growing.  --Cjs56 20:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * OPPOSE - Totally oppose, Seelix is a lot more involved in the story than some, and got some decent coverage in Series 3, I agree we will see more of her —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.75.204.252 (talk) 14:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

WEAK OPPOSE Unlike Hamish below she actually has had a little character development, and a descent amount of screen time. -Viva43 08:22, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

SUPPORT - While she has appeared in a number of episodes, she really hasn't done much. She has had exactly one character arc (wanting to become a pilot), and that was resolved in a single episode. Monsieurxander 09:10, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

WEAK SUPPORT - She doesn't really have much that would really qualify as important to the series. She might have a bigger role in the future but until then she shouldn't have her page until we can clearly see that. A Lone Gamer 21:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Merged/redirected per Articles for deletion/Diana Seelix--Tikiwont (talk) 09:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

merge from Hamish McCall
merge

Hamish McCall should be merged here because Skulls is an incidental character, with which we have no useful information about. 132.205.44.134 00:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * OPPOSE - Like Seelix, Skulls seems to be having more screen time as well. Yes he is a minor character, but he may develop more in 4th season since he seems to be having an increased relationship with Racetrack, so we should probably keep his article open. Cyberia23 21:43, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Support- "Skulls" happens to be around when a lot of things happen, but is rarely a major mover in those events. He isn't a big character, and his role shows little sign of increasing. --Cjs56 20:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * SUPPORT - For three seasons Skulls was only a minor, incidental character and there is nothing seriously indicating that his role could grow bigger (as opposed to Seelix, who obviously will play a more significant role in 4th season). -- 83.27.238.108 16:36, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * SUPPORT - incredibly minor character, and im amazed that he has his own page. he must have said 10 words the whole series. -Viva43 13:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * SUPPORT - Viva43 is spot on. He's had absolutely no storylines of his own, and he's had very little dialogue.Monsieurxander 09:14, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * SUPPORT - I agree with User:83.27.238.108. There is no reason to believe he is going to have any major role in the future of the series and that, so far, he seems a little less then even a minor character. I'm surprised he even has a name. A Lone Gamer 20:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Birch Section
Why exactly did someone refer to Birch as Bitch in it? If no one minds I'm changing it. "Birch's experience and his fears are confirmed when Bitch endangers Kat's life during a combat exercise" A Lone Gamer 00:00, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Article needs major cleanup

 * Colonial religious figures do not belong on this page. They would be better suited on a page specifically about Colonial religion.
 * Gina and Shelley should not be on this page, as they are already on Six's main page. Same goes with Boomer. The Cylons should be grouped according to their models. One page for Six(es), one for the Eights (Sharons). And a single listing each for Threes (D'Anna), Fives (Doral), and so on.
 * Scar is not portrayed by an actor. Its status as a character is debatable. It would be better suited in the main Cylon article.
 * "Episode count" is unreliable. The titles of the episodes should be listed, or the concept should be abandoned entirely.
 * Minor one shot characters like Asha Janik, Gianne, Shevon, Paya, the nuggets from "Scar," etc. do not belong here. The article is becoming way too cluttered, filled with unnecessary characters. This is not battlestarwiki.org. There is no reason to list every character that has ever briefly appeared on the show.
 * Characters should be listed ONCE on the page.

Monsieurxander 08:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Shevon, Paya, and Gianne should be listed, as they are major elements in the emotional development of Lee Adama. 132.205.44.5 00:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


 * If you're talking about one section referencing another section, why is that a problem? People appear in multiple groups, but their description is limited to one section. 132.205.44.5 00:59, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

merge from Cole "Stinger" Taylor
to merge the article.

Cole Taylor should be merged here because Stinger is an incidental character, with not much information known. 132.205.44.5 00:44, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Support sounds good. 70.55.91.193 (talk) 13:37, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. I'll do it this weekend unless someone else wants to do it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:51, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The consensus reached is to merge .

Tory
Is Tory still a minor character?

Mindme


 * I think so. Only appears in 31 episodes and there is no side or back stories on her. Trentc (talk) 23:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

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Move sections
The following characters are critical to the plot, and should be moved from this page of minor characters to a page of more major characters: 1.3 Anders, Samuel T. 2.6 Zarek, Tom 3.18 Tigh, Ellen 5.1 Number One (Brother Cavil) 5.3 Number Three (D'anna Biers) 5.6 Hybrid 5.9 Agathon, Hera

They might not be primary characters, but they are definitely secondary characters, compared to the rest of the characters on this list who are tertiary.

I'll let someone else do it, because I'm not all that familiar with how the articles for BSG are set up. - Shaheenjim (talk) 11:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Tyrol, Nicolas might need to be moved at some point. He was revealed as not being Tyrol's biological son so doesn't fit the Cylon/Half-Cylon section.--T. Anthony (talk) 05:46, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Racetrack
As her callsign is long, she is also called 'track Where does this information come from? Racetrack is no longer to say than "Starbuck", "Hot Dog", "Husker", "Apollo", "Boomer", "Athena", and more, all two or three syllables. If she's called Track, it's just a nickname of a nickname, and that sounds like a fan group's pet name, not something that actually happened on screen.--WPaulB (talk) 01:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * That happens onscreen. And it's not a nickname of a nickname, it's a nickname of a callsign, which is a different animal altogether. 65.94.252.195 (talk) 11:50, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Questionable entries
There are several entries in this list that I would say don't qualify as "minor":


 * Sam Anders
 * Tory Foster
 * Six (unless you're talking about a specific minor Six, such as Natalie or Gina)
 * Eight (again, unless you're talking about a specific minor Eight, such as the one who helped get D'Anna from the Resurrection Hub...although she wasn't named)
 * One/Two (all seem to be interchangable, and as such it would be hard to say "this one's a minor"; as a group, they certainly play a major role)
 * It could even be argued that some regular recurring characters (e.g. Doc Cottle, Racetrack, Hot Dog, Zarek) are of dubious inclusion.
 * Why is Hera listed as a Cylon? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.184.87.181 (talk) 02:49, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Now, I can understand why someone like Anders got on this list in the first place: he really was fairly minor in the beginning. But his role steadily grew, especially with the New Caprica and Final Five arcs. By season 4, he had as much screen time as, say, Tyrol &mdash; and far more than Gaeta or Dualla, who aren't on the list.

Likewise to Tory: by the end, she was far more significant than Billy Keikeya, who isn't on the list.EJSawyer (talk) 20:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


 * It would be so much easier to convert this to a standard list of characters and just list the major characters as well. 65.94.252.195 (talk) 11:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with that -Timeoin —Preceding undated comment added 22:58, 26 July 2010 (UTC).

Notable missing entries
Where is Cally Tyrol?

From the Cult of Baltar: EJSawyer (talk) 20:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Jeanne (Derrick's mother) -- multiple appearances, including visiting Baltar in the brig during his trial
 * Derrick (sick boy healed by Baltar)
 * Tracey Anne


 * Gaeta isn't on this list or on the list of main characters as of the time of this writing. Maybe it would be better to keep all the characters on the same page so they don't get dropped from one list without being added to the other. --97.83.161.38 (talk) 14:22, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Missing Chuckles?
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Donald_Perry

Viper Pilots
Here is a list of other Viper Pilots that have not been included to this list, but were pilots on the Galactica: (Shown or mentioned only)
 * 1) Marcia "Showboat" Case - name is visible on Pilot roster on episode The Passage, also mentioned on the Pegasus episode. Originally a member of the Battlestar Pegasus.
 * 2) Coran "Chopper" Dix - mentioned on episode The Passage.
 * 3) John "Switch" Burke - (see above)
 * 4) Troy "Sever" Minds - (see above)
 * 5) Ahumada "Spender" Salas - (see above)
 * 6) Raymond "Railgun" Lai - (see above)
 * 7) Brian "Tailgate" Smith - (see above)
 * 8) River "Hiccup" Brigden - (see above)
 * 9) Analy "Feline" Amante - (see above)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timeoin (talk • contribs) 23:04, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move - A simultaneous merge discussion has made this move discussion superfluous; this article is to be merged into List of Battlestar Galactica characters. Neelix (talk) 14:09, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

List of minor characters in Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series) → List of characters in Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series) — There is no list of characters for the 2004 TV show, this is the closest thing, so it should be expanded in scope to also cover the characters that have their own articles. Those articles can be linked to with the main template and summary of those articles as a paragraph in this list. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 05:36, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

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