Talk:List of monarchies

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Where is the Kingdom of Sweden?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.80.3.40 (talk) 16:10, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

What about Saudi Arabia? Surely thats an arcetypal absolute monarchy?


 * Added, not sure why it was missed though. That-Vela-Fella 21:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

And what about India? Quite a big list of monarchies there, wouldn't you say...?Alvahir (talk) 07:33, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Vatican an absolute m.?
What about the power of the Council? Of the Cardinals? Of various external secular powers on which Vatican has always depended?

131.220.251.5 (talk) 08:45, 28 November 2008 (UTC) Wojciech Żełaniec

The Commonwealth
I removed this from the Shared Monarchies section:


 * The Commonwealth realms are a group of independent nations who share the same monarch. This situation began when the dominions of the British Empire were granted equal status with the United Kingdom through the Statute of Westminster in 1931.  Since that time the number of Commonwealth realms has fluctuated as some former colonies gained independence and became realms, while others became republics.  Currently there are sixteen Commonwealth realms: Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, The Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

While the placement of the Commonwealth in this section is not wholly without merit (as the situation is similar), it is not a shared monarchy. They are split into legally distinct monarchies, with separate heads of state--the offices just happen to be held ex officio by the same person. The Queen of the United Kingdom is not the sovereign of Australia, the Queen of Australia is. They're separate monarchies, thus not shared. If it's to be put back in that section, I think it needs to be rewritten to mention this. Night w (talk) 07:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * "A monarch may reign over multiple kingdoms, dominions or realms in various forms of political, dynastic, personal unionor association." I do not see why the 16 Commonwealth realms do not belong in that section, that sentence seems to justify it. The section still mentions the personal union fro 1603 when the King of Scotland became King of England.Those were two completely separate positions, just like the commonwealth realms are.   BritishWatcher (talk) 23:41, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow i am over a year late lol, but i still dont see why it does not belong there. BritishWatcher (talk) 23:42, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. I fail to understand how the commonwealth realms situation is in any relevant way different from any other personal union situation. john k (talk) 02:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

The Commonwealth Realms are not 'a' shared monarchy, and yes, each realm has its own monarchy, but all sixteen are 'shared monarchies' in that they share the same person as their monarch. They would therefore fit the definition and the text about the Commonwealth Realms should be restored to the section. But I agree it should be changed to clarify this. Neelmack (talk) 14:49, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Separating Chinese kingdoms
Using just the 'Chinese Empire' seems a little vague, perhaps it should be broken up into dynasties?. The True Wiki (talk) 19:38, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

North Korea?
Ok, sticking my neck out here, and expecting flak if I get any response at all, but would it make sense to list North Korea as a de facto absolute monarchy? The position of the leader seems to be hereditary...

See also Hermit kingdom.

I'd probably have to find WP:RS to justify this, and I'm not sure it is really that sensible, but it does raise the question as to what exactly a 'monarchy' is. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:09, 26 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Would the Queen of the United Kingdom accept Kim Jong-il as her equal? Would their offspring be allowed to marry, or or would it be considered a morganatic marriage? -- Petri Krohn (talk) 20:52, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is not a monarchy. Many de jure republics have de facto father-son succession, going back at least to the early Medici in the Republic of Florence.  Such rulers are not normally considered monarchs unless they claim a monarchical title. john k (talk) 22:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Also, let's not forget, the fact the state is officially called the 'Democratic People's *Republic* of Korea. Oh, and the fact only Kim Il-Sung out of the Kim dynasty was ever officially head of state of North Korea.JWULTRABLIZZARD (talk) 08:26, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Monaco?
Principality of Monaco seems to be missing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.35.114.241 (talk) 19:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Bolivia
Hi, Bolivia is colour-marked for "subnational monarchy", but I can't find any info on it; Bolivia is not listed under the SNM heading in the List of Monarchies article. The only thing I found was that in addition to its administrative provinces, Bolivia has "Native Community Lands", which perhaps might be ruled by some kind of monarch, but the article on these lands does not provide any info indicating that. It says that these lands are held under "common title", which seems to say that the inhabitants own these lands collectively. If that is enough for the native community lands to be a subnational monarchy (is there such a thing as a polyarchy? Omniarchy? "Demo-archy" ...?), the perhaps "common title" should be included as another form of monarchy in the monarchy article. Or is there some ... Prince of Potosi? T 84.208.65.62 (talk) 02:11, 20 August 2022 (UTC)