Talk:List of monarchs of Vietnam

Project Assessment
Having a list is great, but right now Emperor of Vietnam redirects here. Wouldn't it be great to have an article on this? LordAmeth 22:50, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

History box
I don't have the Wikiskills necessary for this, but does anyone know how to fix the history box so that it doesn't overlap with the Utmost Antiquity table? Jediknil (talk) 05:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Chinese character
Since each name in this very long and complicated list has its own article (with full references about Chinese characters for given name, era names,...), it's really not necessary to add Chinese characters for each of them, let alone the Chinese characters for Hùng Kings who lived and ruled before the Chinese domination. Therefore I remove the characters that IP 194.54.88.41 has just added in the article. The "see also" for Nanyue is not necessary either because there's a direct link to the Triệu Dynasty which is considered by some sources a Vietnamese dynasty (and not the Nanyue which is a Chinese kingdom), the same for "see also" of 12 Lords Rebellion because this article is only about the list of Vietnamese monarchs, for the rulers of Vietnam in each periods, readers should need a more extensive article, which is History of Vietnam. Grenouille vert (talk) 05:01, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

List of monarchs with han tu
http://books.google.com/books?id=-eYzAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA49#v=onepage&q&f=false

Title	Journal of the North-China Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, Volumes 16-18 Contributor	North China Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society Publisher	The Branch, 1882

http://books.google.com/books?id=QY8Y4Dr5uOsC&pg=PA49#v=onepage&q&f=false

Title	Journal of the North China Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, Volumes 17-19 Author	North China Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society Contributors	Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland. China Branch, Shanghai Literary and Scientific Society Publisher	Kelly & Walsh., 1882 Original from	the University of Michigan Digitized	Aug 4, 2005

Rajmaan (talk) 17:30, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Champa rulers
Since there is no list of Champa rulers I came to this page. However, I am amazed by this list, which totally confuses me. Not only that I find a vast list of rulers here, I am also amazed of the arrangement. Where does this list originate from? -vvarman is a title for male kings, on what basis did someone classify Isanavarman as a female ruler? Is there any quotation for this? Where is king Sambhudravarman, who definitely ruled around 658? Bhadresvaresvara is the name of a god, not a king and is associated with king Bhadravarman of the fourth century.Mahaparvata (talk) 05:12, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

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Bao An
As a general principle, illegitimate children can't succeed in a monarchy. The only children of Bao Dai given in the Nguyen Phuc genealogy are those he had with Empress Nam Phuong. Bao An is a son of Phi Anh.

As best I can tell, the idea that Bao An is heir to the throne originated on Vietnamese Wiki. His Vietnamese bio cites three stories published in Nguoi Viet in 2013. Strictly speaking, these articles do not claim that he is next in line. But I can understand why someone who read them might think that he was. 99to99 (talk) 13:07, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Disruptive edit
I asked you to block the account editorfree1011 because he has continuously edit false information in the List of monarchs of Vietnam so i hope you soon do something about it Kimhanh1554 (talk) 17:19, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

More information
hi fellow wikipedian i just want to tell you guy that kinh dương vương and the formation time are not mythical they are base on historical accounts and from archaeological discovery in our country of Vietnam and in the southern part of China so i asked everyone stop disrupting edit Kimhanh1554 (talk) 05:01, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Blocked account
i asked you to block the account Qiushufang because he is Chinese don't know anything about the history of Vietnam and he still continuously edit false information in the List of monarchs of Vietnam so yeah you need to stop him.Ok? Kimhanh1554 (talk) 07:43, 2 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @Kimhanh1554: Tone it down please, a bit less aggression would be nice. @Qiushufang: However, I do agree with their content. As explained on the article for Kinh Dương Vương, whilst they may have been mythical, that is by no means sure. The sources do not actully dispute that he was a real person and a king, but do dispute the accuracy of the information given about his life and ancestors. They actually appear to be saying that the king's biography was embellished with details from a fictional work, not that such a king never existed at all. Whilst the details of his life may be mythical, his existence was not. This is the case with many historical figures from so far back. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 08:26, 2 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Regardless of the validity of the source, this user is obviously WP:NPA now and has threatened others based on their ethnicity and nationality with banning. Qiushufang (talk) 08:30, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * oh I'm sorry how dare you said that kinh dương vương existence is not I have you know that his life have been told and written in many historical records and there is a tomb of him in my country and many people worship him in temples you don't believe then go search on the web yourself,i don't want to argue with you because it's really wasting my time Kimhanh1554 (talk) 12:35, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Lý Nam Đế
Sorry I'm using google translate. Lý Nam Đế in Vietnamese means Emperor of the South. This name is an assertion of Vietnam's sovereignty over China (the North). There was not only one person using this name, in fact there were two people: Lý Bí and his nephew Lý Phật Tử. Vietnam's history often called Lý Nam Đế and Hậu Lý Nam Đế to distinguish. The information box in the article often removes Lý Nam Đế and changes it to Đinh Tiên Hoàng (after 3 centuries) which is completely wrong. That is an insult to Lý Nam Đế, one of Vietnam's 14 national heroes. follow 2296/BVHTTDL-MTNATL 21 June 2013, Vietnam Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism. 2402:800:6172:1DDC:CD4B:6201:42F0:D14E (talk) 14:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC)