Talk:List of municipalities of Connecticut by population

Merger
Okay, third time's the charm. This is a good target I think to merge the list from the main Connecticut article into. However I think a more descriptive title for this list would be "List of municipalities of Connecticut by Population"- That article currently redirects to this one (Thank you Polaron!) and I think the two might be better switched.--Elipongo (Talk 04:32, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I think merger is superfluous, now that this listing is known. Just remove the list from Connecticut, and cite the municipality list. Sort out the redirect issue later. -- Yellowdesk 04:47, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I think a day's wait to see if there are any strong objections would be a good idea. No need to start a revert war.--Elipongo (Talk 05:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

There is one minor issue with using the term "municipality" in this list. Boroughs are treated as municipalities by the General Statutes. Including them in the list leads to double counting. In Connecticut all cities are towns anyway (except for Groton). --Polaron | Talk 04:55, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * True; how to handle the expectation of Californian readers who don't expect Hartford to be a town? -- Yellowdesk 05:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think a double listing is necessarily a bad thing, so long as it's parenthetically noted that the borough is part of the larger town.--Elipongo (Talk 05:07, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Non-town municipality figures
For later merging if needed:
 * Bantam 808 (Litchfield)
 * Danielson 4,285 (Killingly)
 * Fenwick 54 (Old Saybrook)
 * Groton Long Point 680 (Groton)
 * Jewett City 3,001 (Griswold)
 * Litchfield 1,340 (Litchfield)
 * Newtown 1,835 (Newtown)
 * Stonington 1,054 (Stonington)
 * Woodmont 1,757 (Milford)
 * Groton city 9,493 (Groton) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Polaron (talk • contribs) 05:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC).

An explanatory paragraph desirable?
This is from the Connecticut section. Should an edited version of this be put at the top of the list, to explain why the list is constructed the way it is? -- Yellowdesk 06:32, 5 February 2007 (UTC) Connecticut has 169 towns, which serve as the fundamental local political subdivision of the state; the entire state is divided into towns. Connecticut shares a local form of government with the rest of New England called the New England town. There are also 21 cities, most of which are coterminous with their namesake towns and have a merged city-town government. There are two exceptions: City of Groton, which is a subsection of the Town of Groton and the City of Winsted in the Town of Winchester. There are also nine incorporated boroughs which may provide additional services to a section of town. One, Naugatuck, is a consolidated town and borough.


 * Oh certainly. What with the pictures and all, this is already going to be an article/list hybrid. I'm just hoping nobody wants to add in the dis-incorporated cities like Willimantic; since it's only a census designated place now would that open the door to places like Crystal Lake?--Elipongo (Talk 11:20, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

The case of Winsted is sort of unusual in that the borough of Winsted and town of Winchester were consolidated (as a town) before Winsted was named as a city. So, there was no separate Winsted city government when it became a city (the town officials are the city officials). So while a city of Winsted exists legally, it is administered by the town of Winchester. This is unlike the case of Groton city vs Groton town where there are separate elected officials and an autonomous city government. Anyway, my concern is whether or not Winsted should be listed here. It is classified as a CDP by the Census Bureau (not as a city) so intercensal annual population estimates are not available. --Polaron | Talk 14:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I would say that this list should be for places chartered somehow by the General Assembly regardless of how they're administered locally or whether they are CDPs. Oddball cases should be explained parenthetically.--Elipongo (Talk 17:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Draft page up
Hi. I just put together a draft update for this page on my personal sandbox in preparation for "merging" that section from the main Connecticut page. Let me know what you think. --Elipongo (Talk 04:28, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent work there. I think it's pretty much good to go. It would be useful, though, to mention which towns are also cities just so people not familiar with the Connecticut municipal structure aren't surprised when they see that Bridgeport, New Haven, Hartford are just towns. --Polaron | Talk 05:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

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