Talk:List of numbered highways in Oregon

We have a problem with the naming of articles
The Highway numbers are unsigned. Routes are signed. The articles should be at Oregon Route XX. --SPUI (talk) 18:08, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

I (and others) have been mostly ignoring the internal ODOT highway numbers (as opposed to the "route" numbers, that appear on roadsigns), for the reason that the general public is FTMP unaware of (and does not use) the internal ODOT numbers. Oregon is unusual in that it keeps two sets of numbers; given that this is a general-purpose encyclopedia and not a road geek site, indexing pages with ODOT numbers would add more confusion than clarity, I think. (Furthermore, the two numbering systems are not congruent; there are many signed routes which run on city streets--and have no corresponding ODOT number. Until recently, there were many ODOT highways with no route number either; though ODOT is changing that.  Still, even though many highways which have no route number have been assigned route numbers by ODOT, very few of them have had roadsigns posted reflecting the new number (OR104 and OR551 are two that have).

In addition--the common lingo (among the general public) for referring to state highways in Oregon is "highway nn" rather than "route nn" or "SRnn". Traffic reports in the Portland/Vancouver area frequently refer to Washington routes 14 and 500 (two major commuter routes north of the Columbia) as "SR14" and "SR500", but equivalent-sized Oregon routes such as 217 and 99E are always called "Highway 217" and "Highway 99E", never "SR217" or "SR99E". Just an interesting bit of local road culture. --EngineerScotty 18:32, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm not saying we should have articles about the Highways, just that the current articles should be moved to the proper names. Putting them at "Highway XX" is misleading, despite its apparent use by the public. --SPUI (talk) 19:00, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * If anything, they should be at Oregon State Route XX, duplicating the convention many other states adapt, with redirects from (or to) Oregon Highway XX. --EngineerScotty 19:23, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Or Oregon Route XX - it looks like they omit the "State". The redirects from "Highway" may be misleading - if there was a simple one-to-one correspondence, a disambiguation would be in order. --SPUI (talk) 20:02, 6 October 2005 (UTC)