Talk:List of oil refineries/Archive 1

Edits

 * Changed External Link to reflect more up-to-date source file (Directory of Operable Petroleum Refineries).
 * Changed ownership on some U.S. refineries based on new aquirements. Kirz 14:24, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Changed the name of the refinery in El Salvador from "Acajutla Refinery" to "Refineria Petrolera de Acajutla SA de CV", its actual name. -Cirilobeto 05:18, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

List in Oil and Gas Journal
The Oil and Gas Journal, a widely read and respected weekly magazine in the petroleum industry, publishes a list of all the refineries in the world ... usually in one of their December issues. That annual list is about a 45-page, refinery-by-refinery in country-by-country tabulation including (for each refinery): location, crude oil daily processing capacity, and the size of each process unit in the refinery. The list is updated each year with additions, deletions, name changes, capacity changes, etc. I think this article should include information about the Oil and Gas Journal's list, so I have added that information. - mbeychok 20:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Oil Refinery Ownership
I read a list of oil refineries a while ago; it seemed that some refineries were part of chemical company complexes, eg Dupont in Delaware. What percentage of major chemical complexes have "their own refinery"?

Refinery links
I think that this article should not have red links (links for articles that do not yet exist). I am as big a fan as anyone about energy related facilities, but refineries should generally not have articles. If a refinery is particularly notable because it is very large or some other reason, then perhaps it is worth an article. However, I believe that your average refinery is not notable enough for an encyclopedia article, even in an encyclopedia as large in scope as Wikipedia. Therefore, I suggest that the links for refineries that do not have articles be removed. -- Kjkolb (talk) 04:46, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll second this motion. --Mcorazao (talk) 15:13, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Scrubbing by an "expert"
I added an "expert-subject" banner at the top. It's not so much a true "expert" in the subject that is necessary as much as somebody with enough interest to want to scrub the whole thing. There have been lots of edits to this article from largely anonymous users. I personally don't have enough interest to scrub this myself but I would recommend from somebody in WikiProject Energy that the following happen:
 * Decide on a scope and state it up front. It is unreasonable to try to encapsulate every single refining operation on the planet.
 * Get rid of the broken links as suggested above. At minimum make sure there are articles on all of the "largest" operations. The rest, to the extent that they are included, should just be text with no links.
 * The referencing needs to be more explicit. Given that this is a list, if the article is not going to cite for every item in the list (which would be unreasonable), then it should up front state precisely where the data for the list is coming from (i.e. not just a "ref" but state it in the text).

--Mcorazao (talk) 15:19, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * When it does get scrubbed, the expert should note that a moderately large complex at Delaware City, DE is for some reason omitted. Junckerg (talk) 22:38, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That's probably because it's currently shut down (as of November 2009), so technically the throughput would be zero. (See the article here: Delaware City Refinery).  It's not currently on the official 2010 DOE list, though presumably it will be next year when it reopens.  I don't see a problem with adding it to this list though. Antandrus  (talk) 02:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Problem with this list is that most of the entries are redlinks. Drmies (talk) 22:03, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

World's largest?
The "world's largest" list at the top of the article is not consistent with the list by country below it.

For what it's worth, here are the world's largest based on the list by country from this same article.

Notice the biggest one, apparently in India, is missing from the list by country. Also there are some duplicates.

Maybe this can help someone clean up a bit more?

--Kai Carver (talk) 18:49, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Feel free to clean-up "top list", remove those with missing refs (or bad) including the claimed largest. --Jklamo (talk) 23:16, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Upgraders
The list includes also (bitumen) upgraders. This is not correct as this is a process to achive the refinery feedstock quality, not refining itself. Therefore I propose to remove upgraders from this list. Beagel (talk) 20:39, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

United Kingdom
Is there any reason why Stanlow Refinery is missing from the list? It is the second largest refinery in the United Kingdom, producing 17 per cent of the country's petrol. Skinsmoke (talk) 10:24, 16 February 2013 (UTC)