Talk:List of people from Pittsburgh

Harry Dolan - writer, director of Watts Writer's Workshop
I don't understand why Removing People not from Pittsburgh was the Edit Summary for pulling Harry Dolan from the list. His article says that he was born in Pittsburgh and it cites his 1/2 page obituary in the The Los Angeles Times that ran on Sunday, September 27, 1981, Page 415, which says "Harry was born in Pittsburgh and attended Pittsburgh High and Carnegie Tech." --OctaviaGraystone (talk) 22:18, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Missing athletes
Just curious why Mitch Frerotte and Mickey Morandini aren't among the athletes here (under Football and Baseball, respectfully). Mitch grew up in Kittanning (only 45 miles north of Pittsburgh), played for the Buffalo Bills from 1987-1992 before leaving as a free agent and signing for one year with the Seattle Seahawks. Mitch played in 3 Super Bowls with the Bills. Mickey had a terrific career in MLB with the Phillies as a 2nd baseman. I believe he was born in Kittanning and went to high school in Ford City.

A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT FAMOUS!!
It diminishes the impressiveness of the many truly famous Pittsburghers.
 * Please sign your comments. If the person has a wiki article in many ways they are legitimately famous in some way (wiki will delete articles of non-famous people).  A workable definition of fame is being processed the jury has been deliberating on that for about 6,000 years.  Hholt01 (talk) 09:15, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Jessica Lynch
Curious why she was pulled from the list.

The West Virginia Annotations
From the category page, People from Pittsburgh: "This category includes people who were born or raised in Metro Pittsburgh (within a two hour drive of the "Head of the Ohio", or strongly identified with the region in adult life." The annotations are superfluous.

Bands?
Would it be permissible to add "The Clarks", "Rusted Root", et al? They have entries/pages of their own and might qualify, or is the preference here for individuals only? -- Dsteckelberg

Business and Industry Leaders
I added this category--seemed like there were some famous Pittsburgh-related people not otherwise covered. -- Dsteckelberg

Perry Como
From the category page, People from Pittsburgh: "This category includes people who were born or raised in Metro Pittsburgh (within a two hour drive of the "Head of the Ohio", or strongly identified with the region in adult life." Perry Como certainly fits that criterion. Squamate 23:44, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll concede on that sentence, but I feel the sentence should be changed. 2hrs is a far drive.  I mean I'm 20min away and I don't say I'm form pittsburgh?  Can we have it changed to include a smaller area?  I don't think the metro area is a good description of pittsburgh.--Jimktrains 00:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, 2 hours is a far piece to drive, but that's the way the page is set up and if you apply that strict of a criterion (city limits only) many of the people listed on this page will be removed: Dean Martin, Amber Brkich, Joe Namath, Mike Ditka, Pete Maravich, Jesse Steinberg, Henry Mancini, among many others, all would go. So would Art Rooney, believe it or not: when he was born, Allegheny, Pensylvania was a separate city; it had not yet been annexed into the city to become the North Side. I grew up about 40 minutes away from the city itself but when people ask where I'm from I answer "Pittsburgh". If they want more then I tell them exactly where I'm from. Just my 2 cents. Squamate 01:56, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 2 hours is just not a good benchmark. Pittsburgh has such an impressive list of citizens, it always baffles me why some feel the need to inflate this list. I live in Washington, DC. A two-hour radius would qualify me as a citizen of Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Richmond, Virginia too, which is outlandish. I think common sense should be the determination here. —Xanderer 17:51, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

You can take it up with whomever set up the category -- the rest of us are just following precedent. Squamate 17:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

the "classic" definition of "pittsburgh"= Allegheny, Washington, Westmoreland and Beaver(the counties are very small)Lowplains (talk) 00:46, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Unwarranted deletions
To reiterate: "From the category page, People from Pittsburgh: 'This category includes people who were born or raised in Metro Pittsburgh (within a two hour drive of the "Head of the Ohio", or strongly identified with the region in adult life.'" The deleted people fit that criterion.  Squamate 13:41, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Request for Comment
A page similar to this one. List of people from San Francisco, is currently under review as an article for deletion, for reasons which would apply to this article as well. I am conducting an RfC on the talk page of the above-mentioned list to determine whether the concensus agrees on keeping such lists or not. Any and all comments are more than welcome. Badbilltucker 16:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

The "Unreferenced" Tag
Is this tag necessary? Every person on the list is referenced by his or her Wikipedia page entry, which is linked to the list. If there are persons on the list who have no Wikipedia pages, it might be better to develop pages for them rather than append a list of references to this list. Squamate 14:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

The purpose of this list
The purpose of this article is to list notable people from the Pittsburgh area, as well as what they are notable for, in as few words as possible. Tomorrow, I will remove excess details (such as years) which are covered in the person's article, as well as any redlinked entries. Please note that most people are not notable for being a "former" something-or-other.

Trent Reznor - not from Pittsburgh
...he's from around Mercer - not even close. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Killari (talk • contribs) 23:22, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Please analyze at your own discretion the title of this page, List of people from the Pittsburgh metropolitan area. Steel Iron Talk 20:15, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Mercer County is not part of the Pittsburgh metropolitan area; it appears that the entry may be removed. All is One  (talk) 21:13, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Dean Martin's on this list and he's not even from Pennsylvania. Steel Iron Talk 20:30, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Which brings me to my next point; this list needs some serious work. I propose placing a notice in the edit box requiring entries of existing articles only (no redlinks) to establish notability. Is there an efficient way to fact check entries? All is One  (talk) 23:00, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I removed the entry. Please add back only with a reliable source. All is One  (talk) 23:27, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The best you can probably do is add this to some dedicated user's watchlist. It's already on mine. We need to get this Pirates1000 guy to correctly hyperlink whatever he/she adds, in order to tell whether the person is notable or no, and save me the annoyance of fixing his/her edits, though they are made in good faith. Steel Iron Talk 00:21, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

A note on deletions, consolidations
On July 27th or so the following user:


 * 173.88.172.144

Substantially deleted and consolidated this page. They did so with any note, comment or discussion. First I want to welcome you to Wikipedia, I can see that you put some time into the page revisions so I am assuming you have some passion for the region or wikipedia or both, and that is always a great thing to have. I would highly encourage you to join Wikipedia and also use the discussion page long before you seek to delete or change substantial parts of any Wiki article, or at the very least leave a note on the discussion page or on your actual edit explaining your rationale. Although I can see that this was not just random vandalism, that you did take a lot of time and care with the edits, as you can see from discussion on this page there are ongoing efforts by a lot of us wikipedians to make this page both very complete and very relevant and wholesale edits like the one you took, while I am sure rationale to yourself, destroys most of our encyclopedic research and contributions. I am restoring the names (some Wikipedians have already started this process) and thus restoring the catagories. The two edits you made from what I could tell is putting "Football" in front of "quarterbacks" and "coaches" and the like. I am eager to have discussions on that to see what we can come up with. Also I see a lot of people that were unfortunate enough to be born before 1940 deleted, for an encyclopedia reference list I find that completely ambiguous. The only expert I have ever pretended to be is one of the Pittsburgh region, if someone is not famous or notable wiki experts in those fields will discuss deletion of that wikiarticle, thus if a wikiarticle on a person exists in astronomy or football lineman, who are we to rule them not notable when wikiexperts in that field rule them notable? But again love to discuss these things, and will welcome you joining wikipedia. Marketdiamond (talk) 22:57, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

links
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:dTlhxaqmKCkJ:www.steeltown.org/pittsburgh_list.pdf+people+from+pittsburgh+reznor&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESidmkNVghMKTZj2fkHGkM-X1saVKMO-OKPLJzhRUJnKt-RW-aowaoip2jrWBHSACGsiLmzFWIgP3gjLtab1hefCD6pc7LLxLrbuXyOt_Y7oAaMKEavK89hf3ePHRbeUIrWPUaH6&sig=AHIEtbQN2M7fUJBiyxm2t2oo45jPaivxyA MarketDiamond 09:51, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
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 * Jim Flanigan "tombstone" Chicago Pol retired to Pittsburgh.


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 Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way  20:45, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

metro area
pittsburgh's metro area is easily 'defined' by the locals. they usually mean the 'original' four-counties of allegh., wash., westmore., and beaver. this is the same area written about in stories and historical texts (crumrine etc.). for example, the city itself was once a part of washington county, and before that allegh/wash was a portion of westmoreland. various government documents refer to the four counties as 'pittsburgh' from way back when. at one time this region all shared the same area-code too and it makes sense, travel to the top of a large hillock that can overlook for miles and you can see why this is. so mentioning a celebrity from fayette county is a little bit of a stretch in my opinion. besides, the local and federal government 'expanded' the region because of monetary concerns during big-steel's demise. Lowplains (talk) 00:47, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

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Lived a significant amount of time
What metric is being used to determine whether an individual meets the requirements of "lived a significant amount of time in the Pittsburgh metropolitan area" before they're included or removed from the list? Also, desiring consensus on whether this should be trimmed down to Pittsburgh proper from metropolitan area. Mkdw  talk 23:06, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree that a metric should be established re: "significant amount of time." That's rather vague. I think the list should definitely represent notable or famous people from the Greater Pittsburgh Region, as Pittsburgh proper is too narrow. And that's sort of the issue that brought me here, because Jeff Goldblum was removed from this list because he was raised in West Homestead, Pennsylvania - a suburb of Pittsburgh, 8 miles away from Pittsburgh, and clearly part of the region. Meanwhile, say, Julie Benz is still on the list, but her hometown of Murrysville, Pennsylvania is 17.8 miles away from Pittsburgh. Consistency is key, no?

--Spekkio (talk) 04:24, 24 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Julie Benz was born in Pittsburgh. Look at the top of the article born is one of the criteria....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 09:52, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

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