Talk:List of personal information managers

Info Select
I added the Info Select link. If you think this is spam, because it only links to their website, then change it to a Wikipedia link or no link at all. However, Info Select belongs on a list of PIM software. It is the Windows successor to the DOS program Tornado which received much critical praise in the early to mid 90s. Slowmover 22:46, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

On reading the "external spam link" help page, I've taken the link off the page. Slowmover 22:52, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * People keep deleting the ref. to Info Select. Eventually, the link will not be red.  There is no reason to omit Info Select just because you haven't heard of it or because it's proprietary.  It is just as valid as Lotus Notes or any other PIM software.  The commercial website for it is here .  If nobody else does, I will eventually create a page for it.   Slowmover 20:05, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Guys:
 * 1) The name is InfoSelect (one word), not Info Select.
 * 2) The product is presently there twice.  Once as "Micro Logic InfoSelect" and once as just plain InfoSelect.  This points out a larger problem with this page... ;-)
 * 3) There was no link to Micro Logic's website, only a (dead) one to a future Wikepedia entry.  So, I re-established this, since other items are linked this way and at least people can get some kind of information on it, this way.  (I should probably go read the aforementioned "external spam link", wherever that is.)  thundt 00:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand why Info Select isn't listed here. It appears to me to be a prime representative of software fitting this category. By the way, the company spells it in two words. See http://www.miclog.com to verify that. There appear to be a number of pieces PIM software that are getting short shrift here. Can anyone say why? 1p2o3i (talk) 21:55, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

WebClendar
I' am not an expert but there is a WebCalender free software a PHP/SQL product i've not used at this time. It can be used on an XP platform with mySQL At the moment it seems to be more acheived than other products

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.248.84.133 (talk • contribs) 14:56:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Proposed merge from 'comparison of personal information managers'
The article Comparison of personal information managers is not a comparison at all but just another list. I suggest that article should be merged into this article. -- FP (talk)(edits) 11:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge complete. -- FP (talk)(edits) 08:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

As of now, the comparison doesn't state a sufficient amount of useful informations; having the programs compared by their features would be most useful. --93.46.46.121 (talk) 16:11, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Structure it with sections, please
I don't want to mess with other people's work for now, but I think it would greatly enhance the readability of the article if it was structured into sections like in this article: List of PDF software
 * Web applications
 * FLOSS
 * Proprietary
 * for Windows
 * for Mac OS

Company + Product Naming?
Right now there is a mishmash of products named CompanyName ProductName and others named just ProductName. Examples of the former are Microsoft and Google products; examples of the latter are GoldMine (made by FrontRange Solutions) and MyInfo (by Mellenix). There's even at least one that's just CompanyName: Kerio (really Kerio MailServer). Understand, the branding of products with too-generic product names so you end up having to invoke the company name to narrow it down is quite deliberate on the part of the companies ("Microsoft Office").

One way of handling this issue is to have a column for software publisher and a column for product name. What do people think?

thundt 00:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Alphabetization and the Lack Thereof :-)
Right now the alphabetization has gotten a bit out of whack, especially in the "M" section of the list.

But before spending time on this, IMO, the product name/company name issue ought to be settled...

thundt 00:48, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Redlinks
This page has a lot of redlinks. The norm on lists like this is that entries only get created where the subject is notable, and notability is judged by whether a Wikipedia article exists. Reading WP:WTAF explains the idea better than I can.

I think this list would benefit from moving towards the same standards, and would suggest that;
 * 1) Any new redlinked lines (including lines with only an external link) get reverted out on sight kciting WP:WTAF
 * 2) Existing redlinks that are still redlinks after 3 months get reviewed to see if an article is feasible, and removed if not.

Mayalld (talk) 20:15, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I've removed some red links apps based on what I could find about them on Google. I've used a combination of these criteria:


 * Hasn't been updated in more than 4 years
 * Dicontinued projects
 * No results on Google
 * No website or only available on generic download websites (free-to-try, lemonfiles, download-picks, etc.)
 * Less than 50,000 results on Google
 * Very low page rank or no page rank at all

If I've over-deleted, feel free to put some of the apps back.

Laurent (talk) 18:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

proposed merger with "Comparison of office suites‎;"
Proposed 

Sanjiv swarup (talk) 11:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Merger with Comparison of office suites‎

Reason = There is hardly any distinction between personal information managers  and Office suites‎

It seems simpler to merge


 * Well the article should be merged with Comparison of office suites‎ as said by Sanjiv swarup there is no clear difference between the two. Kalivd (talk) 14:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't think it should be merged - Office suites and PIM can be significantly different things. An office suite may include a PIM (eg Outlook) but many PIMs are just standalone. For example, how can somebody compare Sunbird or iCalendar to Open Office? 82.65.147.27 (talk) 14:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I think merging PIMs with office suites is a very bad idea. Office suites are entirely different, and merging the two categories would muddy up understanding of what's what. It's like having an article on bananas also pertain to grapes 1p2o3i (talk) 21:58, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Clean up
I'm going to do so clean up and check all the applications in the list. I'll put a "VERIFIED" comment next to each of those that seem ok. I'll check Google, Google News, Alexa as well as the original article for sources. Please don't remove the "VERIFIED" comment so that we can keep track of what has been checked or not! Thanks. Laurent (talk) 19:21, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

The Insidious Big Brother DataBase
In GNU Emacs I use BBDB. Please mention it. Jidanni (talk) 23:15, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Too many links?
There's a warning comment about too many external links, but I only see 4 or so. Is the warning obsolete, or am I missing something? (I'm a newbie.) Mjsteiner (talk) 04:08, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

More Linux Organizers
Osmo and qOrganizer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.219.212.102 (talk) 16:41, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Useless list because of poor management requiring only things with established wikipedia pages
This is elitist nonsense which is making this list far less helpful and useful than it could be.

There are a lot of great old well established PIMs missing from this list because of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.85.107.68 (talk) 15:37, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank goodness for the rest of the ("anti-elitist") World Wide Web, including those curlie.org links at the end of this list! Biogeographist (talk) 15:47, 14 May 2020 (UTC)