Talk:List of political parties in Cuba

Parties in Cuba proper v. Parties in exile?
Cuba is in a special situation, with a fairly large exile/emigrant population, which in general have much greater chances of being politically active in parties of their own choice than have the inhabitants on the island themselves. At the same time, there are also small opposition parties active on the island itself. As far as I understand, such parties are since 1992 not automatically considered to be illegal, but they work under very restricted circumstances.

It would therefore be of interest to understand the character of the parties on this list. Which of them exist only in Cuba; which are purely exile parties; and which both work in exile and are present in Cuba? E. g., the Christian Democratic Party of Cuba, according to our article and a quick glance at its web-page, was founded in Miami, and has its leaders and its congresses there, too. Does this mean that they are a pure exile party, or do they have (open, or clandestine but somewhere acknowledged) members on Cuba, too? If they have members on Cuba, is there some token or real recognition of this, when they hold their party congresses?

Either, the list could be split up in several; or the information could be made clearly visible at each item on the list. Since I do not know which kinds the parties on the list are, I cannot recommend the one or the other. Also, I do not know if there e. g. is any exile party, which claims to have clandestine activity in Cuba, while at the same time being formally declared illegal there. (If I understand the Cuban laws correctly, forming parties in not in itself prohibited; but have the Cuban government or legal authorities explicitly declared any one of them illegal e. g. for 'counterrevolutionary activities'?)

Similarly, about the historical parties: Are there exile parties who claim to be the same juridical objects as some historical parties, just continuing their activity abroad when it wasn't possible on Cuba itself?

Finally, I miss the Communist party on this page. It definitely should be there, whether in the general list, or in a separate one-item list. (For symmetry, it also would be nice to record whether or not it is openly or secretly active among emigrants; with the usual restriction that secret activities would be noted 'according to this or that source'.) JoergenB (talk) 19:07, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

I added the Communist Party, at least. —Toby Bartels (talk) 12:23, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

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legality of other parties "since 1992"
shall we remove this whole "other parties formally exist and are allowed althought they dont participate in elections" and delete the several hoax political parties articles?
 * its actually original research with no sources and a hoax, there are no sources whastoever, and the 1992 change in the cuban constitution does not the formal legalisation of parties other than the addition to the constiution that the communist party is "defined as the “organized vanguard of the Cuban nation." and the new 2019 constitution says "The Communist Party of Cuba, as the only party"yes there are exiled parties but they are illegal in cuba


 * constitution of cuba 1992 https://www.cubanet.org/htdocs/ref/dis/const_92_e.htm
 * https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/cuba from source"Political parties other than the PCC are illegal" 83.185.85.166 (talk) 13:09, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * https://walterlippmann.com/draft-cuban-constitution-2018/ from sources The Communist Party of Cuba, as the only party" 83.185.85.166 (talk) 13:20, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * There was no reason to create an RfC when there was no prior discussion. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 12:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * disussion with who? 83.185.94.11 (talk) 12:26, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

1992
This page claims that the communist party is the only legal party, but the Elections in Cuba page claims other parties have been decriminalized since the 1992 constitution. So is this page the accurate one or is it the other? 70.185.41.250 (talk) 17:06, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * i noticed you being confused in here so i compared the article Politics of Cuba to this and fixed the problem by copying the sources (i consider it important for people be aware of context of my edits) and it turned out that it was just a bunch of unsourced, uncorrect and unbased original research there, and i replaced it with reliable sourcing as per WP:RS, also the source of the 1992 constitution does mention any "legalisation in 1992" and also bear in mind the constitution wikisource is tagged as " identified as an English translation where the translator is unknown" which makes it unreliable and should be updated to the new 2019 Constitution Gooduserdude (talk) 07:49, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

"Free" and "Democratic"
The term "free" seems too nebulous. Does it mean monetarily free as in referring to the absence of a poll tax? If so, that interpretation would apply to Cuba. Does it mean free access to the electoral process? If so, I'd expect some argument as to how that's the case. Stated as fact without any elaboration, this claim can only be seen as editorializing.

The term "democratic" is much less nebulous but seems to be misused here. Democracy refers to the decision-making power of the people. This being the case, it seems contradictory to deny that Cuban elections are democratic immediately after noting how they are conducted through referendum.

An argument may be that the freedom and democracy of Cuban elections are limited by the authoritarian involvement of the Communist Party, but this would also be editorializing. The Cuban government is indeed authoritarian in their involvement in elections in that they restrict the pool of candidates to communists, however this standard of authoritarianism does not mesh with the colloquial use of the term.

For example, the United States also limit their candidates but strictly to capitalists. In practice, US citizens are given two options in their elections. Due to party involvement, both of those candidates will be capitalists. Yet the assertion that this system is authoritarian is largely only supported by "radical" leftists, and US elections are widely seen as both free and democratic.

I suggest that the sentence "Elections in Cuba are neither free, nor democratic." be stricken for these reasons, but I'm sure a more nuanced elaboration of these claims would also be an appropriate solution. 71.125.21.24 (talk) 06:25, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

This is my post. I've signed in and am commenting here to follow the conversation more easily. Huggiewiki (talk) 06:30, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

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