Talk:List of premiers of Prince Edward Island

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Stewart & Lea
I believe, among the provincial premiers, Stewart & Lea are numbered twice. Thus making Robert Ghiz the 33rd premier (not the 31st). GoodDay (talk) 22:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

My apologies, according to Ghiz's premiers website, he (Ghiz) is the 31st Premier. GoodDay (talk) 21:29, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Requested move 16 December 2016

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The result of the move request was: NOT MOVED, withdrawn by proposer. See comments below for details. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:39, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

– I've just merged the descriptive content from Premier of Prince Edward Island to this page, and redirected it to here. I think that this page is better off living at the shorter title notwithstanding that it contains a list, as it is essentially an article which covers the subject of the government position which contains a list of its officeholders, and all that is left otherwise is a stub and has been for many years, but combined it's a strong article. The history of the former article needs to be preserved (per WP:ATTRIBUTION) hence the second move request. I don't think I can do this sequence of moves myself. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:16, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * List of premiers of Prince Edward Island → Premier of Prince Edward Island
 * Premier of Prince Edward Island → Premier of Prince Edward Island/old
 * For any technical moves, WP:RM may be what you're looking for.--Nev&eacute;–selbert 23:41, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 * thanks, yeah, I am aware of technical requests, however I didn't expect that this proposal was entirely uncontroversial, hence listing for discussion. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 11:43, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I've reverted the re-direct in question. I'd rather 2 articles, as is the way the other Canadian premiers articles are. We've got List of Premiers... & Premiers... articles for the other 12 provinces & territories. Why make PEI different from the rest? GoodDay (talk) 05:10, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I just think there's not much more to say about the position of Premier in PEI other than the blurb that's in the lede of this list now (some of it pulled from the Premier article) so it might as well be one page. I could say the same about any of the provincial Premier articles, really, there's only a handful that are longer than their infoboxes. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 11:43, 19 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I've never been terribly convinced that we actually need to have a "Premier of Province" article and a separate "List of premiers of Province" list for any province — as Ivanvector notes, virtually none of the main "premier" articles are actually long enough to require the spinoff for size management purposes, especially since some of main article's content simply gets reduplicated as the introduction to the list anyway. But at the same time, I agree with GoodDay's concern that we shouldn't treat Prince Edward Island differently than the other provinces — we would need to either establish a consensus to merge all of the lists into their corresponding base articles, or leave this one alone in the same "base article and separate list article" format as the others. But also, we don't keep old versions of articles as separate "/old" subpages. If we merge two pages, all we actually have to do to preserve the old attributions is to undelete the edits that get subsumed by the page move, so that they're restored to the edit history of the existing title — there's no need or precedent for keeping old versions of articles as separate subpages of current versions. (Subpages, in fact, don't even work in mainspace — every page in mainspace functions as a fully standalone article in its own right, and never functions as a subpage of another one regardless of how many slashes are present in the title.) So even if there is a consensus established to merge the pages, the move request as formulated here is simply unnecessary — that's just not how we do what's being requested. There are occasionally some complex situations where an "/old" page needs to be temporarily created as part of an article repair process (and even then, we bump the /temp or /old page into a secondary namespace like Talk: or User: or Wikipedia:), but content is never permanently retained there; as soon as the repair is done, the "/old" title disappears again. Accordingly, I have to oppose the move request as constituted, though without prejudice against a wider discussion about whether all of the premier lists should be merged into their parent articles — and even if that consensus is reached, the old articles still won't need to be separately maintained as "/old" subpages. Bearcat (talk) 18:44, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I fully understand the attribution bit, I thought that the subpage strategy was fairly standard practice, but so long as attribution is maintained I have no concerns about how that's actually accomplished (that is, you seem to know what you're doing). For the time being I'm going to remove this move request and revert myself, and consider whether to propose this same action for all of the provinces in a more frequently read place. Thanks for everyone's input. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:35, 19 December 2016 (UTC)


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