Talk:List of rabbit breeds

Untitled
Am currently working on changing the Chicken Templete to one that will work for the rabbits. When post here Please use it !! a preview of the info on it. Think something should be added to it? Firesongponies (talk) 11:58, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

tried to add holland lops to list
reverted my change also links on the bottom should be removed to personal sites...I see several listed for personal sales.... my link was reverted and it had bunny care instruction on it...not fair HollandLopLover 14:34, 20 July 2007 (UTC)hollandloplover

Vandalism
There was a bizarre bit of vandalism under the Flemish Giant section of this article. I'm honestly not sure what kind of vendetta anybody could hold against a breed of rabbit, but it's been removed. --Krishva 08:24, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

I removed "Conner is very good looking too" from the American Fuzzy Lop section because it makes absolutely no sense in the context of that article. I have no idea what Conner is in the context of American Fuzzy lops (nor why such a useless subjective statement is in there), but this was reported as "vandalism" and the change was reverted.

Found and removed the phrase "My vajj is messed up!!" in the Lop section, where a link to Charles Darwin's observations on the Lop was. The link is no longer available either. If anyone knows of it, please fix it. - Random reader of Wikipedia, Feb 20, 2007


 * Vandalism is common on Wikipedia. Good job cleaning it up. You can always revert vandalism if you like instead of simply removing the offending text. -- Charlene 23:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I have also deleted the latest: "Josh and Ryan are so hot!!" under the Palomino section. To all readers out there - please do fix all vandalism that you see. It would be greatly appreciated by other readers. Thank you. - Random reader of Wikipedia, May 31, 2007

I've removed a considerable amount of vulgarity from the 'Beveren' page, but it was put in place of what I assume was viable information. If anyone has extensive knowledge about the showing standards of the Beveren breed of rabbit, it would be very much appreciated for them to attend the page and repair the damage that the inane have dealt. -Kyzer, Nov. 25 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.178.22.70 (talk) 03:48, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Removed "alakazm! this breed is the awesomest!" from the section on the American Fuzzy Lop. I hereby dub this "fandalism".Metasyntactic D (talk) 05:13, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Why on earth it the list of rabbit breed page so popular for vandalism? I didn't think it was particularly popular - Random Reader 2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.11.160 (talk) 15:22, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

This is not a list!
This page is not a list, its a miniature encyclopedia in itself!

I propose it be split so that each breed has its own page, that way it will actually be possible to expand the info on each breed. Remember WP:NOT paper! Tekana (O.o) &#91;&#91;User talk:Tekana&#124;Talk]] 13:04, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable. Perhaps this page should be a list linking to individual pages for each breed. I would suggest that name of the articles contains the word rabbit somehow though to differentiate the rabbit breeds that have the same name as other animals such as chinchilla's. Suppafly 18:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree, however this would take some time, and i suggest making the articles first, before deleting, or changing, this article, that way no one gets confused and such Buckshot307 20:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * This page and the branching articles themselves need a lot of work for tidiness and, especially in the case of the branching articles, consistency. Metasyntactic D (talk) 00:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Pictures
It would be cool if people could add pictures of the different breeds. Maybe people who own them could upload pictures. --spiralhighway 17:30, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Where's my camera :)Buckshot307 20:43, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I work at an animal shelter, I could take pictures and upload them. Does anyone know of a definitive guide that I could use, there is a chicken or egg problem, I don't want to upload the wrong photos for each rabbit.  --Rhinokitty (talk) 21:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Currently working on it Firesongponies (talk) 10:21, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Many of the linked images from vetbook are no longer working (Skoot13 (talk) 17:14, 12 July 2018 (UTC))

German Giant
Anyone have any info about the German Giant breed? http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4670000/newsid_4676900/4676904.stm Suppafly 18:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Also requesting this information. Another link for y'all: http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,458863,00.html
 * AKismet 15:55, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I heard that Szmolinsky has exited the North Korean contract, as he suspects that the first shipment was eaten by the party heads at a birthday celebration for Kim Jung Il (as though I didn't have enough reasons to hate that guy; how could you possibly eat something that cute?) instead of being sent to the rabbit breading program. Again, this is only something I heard, so I was wondering if this is true. If it is, the page is obsolete and needs an Update. ELV
 * Did not see your discussion, here sorry, wrote some lines at the end of this page. The rabbits in the news where Deutsche Riesen. Therefor this "breed" should be deleted from the article. Regards Hagen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.87.222.179 (talk) 20:32, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Phoenixonfire (talk) 22:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC) German Giants are the same breed as Flemish Giants. Its just that differnt countries have differnt names for the same breed. The German hare or what ever it was that they sent to the North Korean if you read only gets up to 23 lbs. And Flemish have not top weight. Its the same breed and they are fairley easy to find! I raise and Show flemish Giants in the US in California. If you do your research you will find that the German Giant and Flemish Giant are the same breed just in differnt countries.

Lionheads?
The Lionhead tort COD was recently recognized by The American_Rabbit_Breeders'_Association. Should the Lionhead section of this article be changed? RouJoumis 09:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC) Phoenixonfire (talk) 22:43, 13 September 2009 (UTC) Torts have not been reconized yet! the Siamese Sable Points only!

ARBA vs. European Breed Descriptions
I noticed that the "Silver Fox" rabbit on the list describes the European Silver Fox rabbit, which the ARBA in the US calls the "Silver Marten." In the US, the ARBA definition of "Silver Fox" describes a larger meat rabbit with fur similar to the Artic Silver Fox. The ARBA's Silver Fox rabbit is listed as critical by the American Livestock Breed Conservancy and should be represented in this list. National Silver Fox Rabbit Club

Perhaps a notation indicating region or group that recognises a given rabbit name/description should be included?

--Kgsaturn 20:58, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

So now there is no mention of the European Silver Fox breed!

Should there be two pages - one for ARBA breeds and one for European breeds? Many breeds have different names weights & colours in Europe. It would save a lot of confusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.118.75 (talk) 11:47, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that instead of splitting the list, the better option would be to list all breed alphabetically, with annotations such as Silver Fox (ARBA) and Silver Fox (Europe) where needed. This to me allows for the inclusion of (hypothetical?) future rabbit breeder associations of the Mideast, Asia, Latin America, etc.Kerani (talk) 01:58, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Belgium Dwarf Rabbit
The Lionhead rabbit mentions the Belgium Dwarf but there is no information on it. Could someone post something about it, I can get a picture of mine for the article

German Grey Rabbit
The German Grey is not a recognized german rabbit breed. The rabbits decribed in the different broadcastings and newspaper articles are just "normal" Deutsche Riesenkaninchen (= Flemish Giant), please delete them from the article. Regards Hagen Graebner (You can contact me on my user page in German Wikipedia) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.87.222.179 (talk) 20:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

found some rubbish just cleared it up-Random Reader 2 Phoenixonfire (talk) 22:47, 13 September 2009 (UTC) Well the rabbits they are talking about are not actually an excepted breed and only one reclusive man has them! The Garman Giant and Flemish Giant are the same and have not top weight as it is the biggest rabbit. They also have the weights wrong on the adults. Bucks have to weigh a minimum of 13.7 (about 14) to be registed and does have to wigh closer to 16 lbs! Does are much bigger generally in the flemish then bucks!

Seriously needs metrication
This page gives some breeds' weights in pounds, and some others in kilos. It must be changed so it's always in kilos first, then pounds between parentheses (until the only three countries in the world who haven't metricated yet finally wake up, then we can delete those). -- Stormwatch (talk) 12:40, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey! Don't be hating on people's unique cultural identity! *g* (Agreed, science articles should use metric measurements. Just it might be better to be a little more diplomatic about it.)Kerani (talk) 12:36, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

will work on that in my standredizing of each page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Firesongponies (talk • contribs) 10:23, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Division of Breeds by Use/Type
As this is a (super) list at the moment, I'm considering shifting the list around in order to show groupings by type - meat breeds, fur breeds, fiber (angora), and fancy/pet. (Possibly other categories.) With a header that acknowledges that rabbits of all breeds are/can be kept as pets, I think this would add more information for the reader. Kerani (talk) 12:41, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe you could do that as a table? "Breed X is for fur/fiber/..."(check all that apply). Because you might want to put a breed in multiple categories. Also, how subjective are these categories? Wikipedia likes its facts referenced, so I think you should look for a book with different categories for breeds. Otherwise it might turn into an edit war if there's no definitive source. That's the one advantage of alphabetic sorting: At least everyone agrees about the order. --Morn (talk) 00:06, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

There is no definitive source to categorize the rabbits. Many are multi purpose. Food and fur, food and wool, food/fur/show. If we put a message that all breeds can be used as pets, we should also put a note that all rabbits are made out of meat and are edible. I agree that at least alphabetic is universally acceptable. Have a good day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Francorios (talk • contribs) 05:57, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree that while categorising them may seem like a good idea, many breeds are multi-purpose and all can technically just be pets! I see no reason this page can't be like the List of dog breeds page, a nice table with pictures where possible. --Catxx (talk) 13:38, 8 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I think the suggestion to look at the List of dog breeds was a good one, as the encyclopedia should should be similar from section to section. Looking at that list, I see it shows the different categories of the dogs (herding, hunting, toy, terrier, etc), which could be a good way to note the different developed uses of the breeds. (And all rabbits are made of meat as well as possibly being pets!) Kerani (talk) 20:35, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Images needing articles
Please see here. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:10, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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Text format in the table
What's up with all the font changes and line breaks in the table cells? Can we just get rid of these? Kendall-K1 (talk) 04:56, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, gladly. I apologize for my inexperience with coding for tables and my feeble attempts at formatting within them. I was just trying to make a complex table easier to read, but clearly there's a simpler way. I happily defer to your better judgment. Thanks for taking interest. Feel free to jump in there, or let me know what I can do to improve this. Timbuk-2 (talk) 05:11, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I took a look but the table markup is impenetrable. Are you using some tool to generate this? Kendall-K1 (talk) 05:58, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No. Timbuk-2 (talk) 06:08, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Also&mdash; I just learned (from a wise editor) about using nowrap and setting column widths, which would enable me to remove much of the formatting garbage I had introduced. Would you like me to slowly implement those for your review?  Timbuk-2 (talk) 15:14, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * How about I start to make the table-header code less impenetrable by putting each column onto a different line (for readability)? Timbuk-2 (talk) 15:43, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * That would help. Are all those non-breaking spaces in there to make the column wider? If you can set the width explicitly and change those to regular spaces that would help too. And how would you feel about moving some of the longer quotes to the footnotes? Kendall-K1 (talk) 17:11, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Excellent suggestion about making the longer quotes into footnotes. I will implement these improvements slowly and I'd be grateful for your review of them. I really appreciate your speaking up to help me improve my coding and make this a better page. Many thanks. Timbuk-2 (talk) 18:05, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Regarding setting column widths: A senior editor was kind enough just now (in a different forum) to alert me to the potential downfalls of setting column widths.
 * I propose we defer to this wisdom and refrain from adding column width settings in this list. Your thoughts? Timbuk-2 (talk) 19:15, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * There is no policy or guideline that recommends against setting column widths. But in this case you've got so many columns and the table is so wide I would be reluctant to set any of the columns wider than they already are. Instead I would try to think of ways to simplify some of the very large cells, especially in the BRC Recognized column. Possibly by moving text into footnotes, as I suggested earlier. Kendall-K1 (talk) 21:29, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I would be happy to transfer the larger entries in the "BRC Recognized" column to footnotes and will start work on that&mdash;unless someone else wants to offer an opinion, in which case I'd gladly discuss it. Timbuk-2 (talk) 21:39, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I would be happy to transfer the larger entries in the "BRC Recognized" column to footnotes and will start work on that&mdash;unless someone else wants to offer an opinion, in which case I'd gladly discuss it. Timbuk-2 (talk) 21:39, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Sachsengold: problem with "Anchor S" functionality for this wikilink to a previously-deleted article?
"Sachsengold" is currently misplaced in the alphabetical order of this table. When I tried to correct that, it was set to appear with the "Anchor S" function applied to it (since it happens to be the first "S" entry). Alas, no matter what I've tried, I can't get the "Anchor S" function to work for Sachsengold. Note that it is a link to a previously-deleted English-language article. There is still a German-language Wikipedia article&mdash;Sachsengold (Kaninchenrasse)&mdash;which I will try to eventually incorporate here, but the alphabetization needs to be resolved first. Or is there a workaround that would enable both? I had difficulty in my tests of one such option. Is Sachsengold's "previously-deleted" status why the "Anchor S" function doesn't work? (Clearly, anchors works with a wikilink to a never -existing page, as is the current situation with Sallander.) I will investigate this, but wanted to mention it here while I do. Timbuk-2 (talk) 21:16, 29 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I thought of a workaround for this. I can add the "Anchor S" designation a tad prematurely: at the last "R" entry in the table (instead of the first "S" entry). The anchor functionality will still work effectively enough and it will allow me to correctly alphabetize the Sachsengold entry. I shall implement this, but I remain open to a proper fix or to a better workaround. Timbuk-2 (talk) 00:21, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Right arrows
There are a number of table cells that contain a right arrow "→". Does this have some meaning or is it a typo? Kendall-K1 (talk) 01:16, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It's intentional: to indicate the colors are delineated in the column(s) to the right (since ARBA and BRC colors differ frequently enough, as my improvements to the table will show). Currently, though not ideal, the contents of the "Colors" column is evolving into all non-ARBA / non-BRC colors, and there are enough entries to warrant this usage. I am very much open to better ideas on this. Also, I am not fond of the appearance of that right-arrow, since it looks too much like the existing dashes in that same column. Is there something visually better?  I would gladly hear your thoughts on better all-around methods for all these issues.  Thanks for your feedback.  Timbuk-2 (talk) 01:23, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Unicode has dozens of arrows, although not all of them will be available in everyone's favorite font. There is a list here: . Some possibilities would be double arrow "⇒" or "⇛", black arrow "➡", triple arrow "⇛", long double "⟹" or one of the heavy arrows "➔" or "➙". Kendall-K1 (talk) 01:46, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Great! Would you like to choose? (I'll mention the one I'm leaning toward: &#10132;) Does anyone else have a preference? Timbuk-2 (talk) 01:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * While this discussion remains open and I look forward to hearing other opinions, I am going to take the liberty of replacing the existing arrow (which looks quite a bit like an em-dash and thus may cause confusion) with something more arrow-like. I am very much open to better options if anyone would like to suggest one.  Thanks.  Timbuk-2 (talk) 23:47, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Scope? Selective breeding vs natural selection
Currently, the table of modern-day breeds includes two that are the result of natural selection:
 * Enderby Island rabbit
 * San Juan

There exist at least four more such breeds for which Wikipedia articles currently exist:
 * Amami rabbit
 * Columbia Basin pygmy rabbit
 * Lower Keys marsh rabbit
 * Macquarie Island rabbit

Although I firmly believe the above breeds are worth noting and greatly inform one's perspective on the larger topic, I suggest this may not be the best venue for doing so. The columns of this already-wide table do not lend themselves to aptly describing the notable attributes of such rabbits. Thus, I suggest:
 * that the scope of this table (and the "Extinct breeds" table) be limited to breeds intentionally developed through human intervention,
 * that this decision be made clear to the reader, and
 * that an appropriate (perhaps already extant) place be found for a well-structured mention, list, or table of these rabbits.

Your thoughts? Timbuk-2 (talk) 17:51, 31 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't know enough about it to go down that rabbit hole. By the way, when this page pops up on my watchlist, half the time I mis-read it as "List of rabbit heads". Kendall-K1 (talk) 00:29, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Rare breeds: identify them using background color?
This table includes an interesting subgroup not currently identified as such: 34 rare breeds. I refer to those deemed rare by:
 * BRC's "Rare Varieties Club" designation (currently 25 breeds), and
 * The Livestock Conservancy's conservation status of concern (currently 11 breeds) [Note that there are two breeds that appear in both those groups.]

Identifying these rare ones would provide an interesting perspective on the volatility of world rabbit breeds. An unobtrusive method (which works well in conjunction with column sorting) would be to apply a background color. [I thank the creators of the List of rivers of Albania for this idea.] I welcome your thoughts on the sample table below and look forward to discussing this. Timbuk-2 (talk) 19:03, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Sample Table {{legend|#FFE6E6|Rare breeds$[with citations for 2 sources]$|border=solid 1px #AAAAAA}}


 * I am open to continued discussion of this proposal. In the absence, so far, of any stated reservations, I will go ahead with its implementation. I look forward to your feedback on it. Timbuk-2 (talk) 19:18, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Move "Image" column into 2nd position?
I'd like to propose a change to the order of the columns. Would it be an improvement to move the "Image" column into 2nd position&mdash;swapping places with the "Origin" column? Below is a sample of such a table. I see several benefits to doing this. I look forward to your feedback. Thanks. Timbuk-2 (talk) 04:13, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Sample Table {{legend|#FFE6E6| = Rare breeds}}


 * While I continue to be open to discussion on this matter, I shall&mdash;in the absence (so far) of stated reservations&mdash;move ahead with implementing this proposal. I look forward to your feedback. Timbuk-2 (talk) 17:46, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Migrating content from the "Citation footnotes"
Clearly, this article should strive to remain an overview for comparison of the major attributes of the >160 breeds listed. The bulky color/pattern details we currently have in the "Citation footnotes" can be migrated to the wikilinked article for the individual rabbit breed, it seems to me, which would be the more appropriate place for that content. If no one objects, I shall endeavor to undertake that migration project. Your thoughts, as always, are most welcome. Timbuk-2 (talk) 22:31, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Table structure proposal: swap the image into the first column?
I'd like to propose an improvement to the table structure: swapping the image into the first column and the "name notes" (i.e., "See also", "Also called", etc.) into the second column. This would better focus and segregate (in my opinion) the primary data points, especially for narrower screens&mdash;including smartphones. Both columns would still be sortable. (The "name notes" themselves would remain un-sortable.)

A sample table appears below. Are there ramifications that should be considered? Are there concerns that should be discussed? I am very much interested in your thoughts. If a consensus is reached, I would volunteer to do the necessary work. Your feedback is appreciated. Timbuk-2 (talk) 20:23, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Sample Table #2 {{legend|#FFE6E6| = Rare breeds|border=solid 1px #AAAAAA}}


 * Added non-breaking spaces in the sample table to improve column width as intended. Timbuk-2 (talk) 00:40, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Added more of same (in the "Size" column) to achieve the intended display on narrower screens. Timbuk-2 (talk) 00:40, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Unrecognized Rabbit Breeds
Many articles about rabbits that aren't recognized by the American Rabbit Breeders Association (ARBA) or the British Rabbit Council (BRC) are short and don't have a lot of information to be there own article. I started a sandbox page to list all of the unrecognized breeds. The page would be titled something like List of unrecognized rabbit breeds (title suggestions are welcome). I would appreciate it if someone gave me feedback on the idea. My sandbox is User:DestinationFearFan/sandbox. Feel free to edit it, as it is not completed. DestinationFearFan (talk) 18:27, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Out-dated
This article is in need of an update (nearly 5 years old). Much of the info is not current. Additionally, just because a breed is recognized in the US or UK doesn't mean that the breed isn't rare, and not being recognized doesn't mean that it is rare. GoatLover1234 (talk) 13:50, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Names
Some of these names are the UK names. I would suggest putting names from other countries. Ex. the "Rarified Rufous" is known as the "Thrianta" in the US. Or the "Petite Checkerboard" is known as the "Dutch" in the US. GoatLover1234 (talk) 13:56, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Agromet
Rabbit and there habbit 102.91.39.250 (talk) 10:22, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Mini Rex vs Miniature Rex
I asked this questions in the Rex Rabbit article but did not hear anything so thought I'd ask here. In the Rex Rabbit article, in the Rex rabbit breeds section, it lists both Mini Rex [USA] and Miniature Rex [UK]. The link to both goes to the Mini Rex article. The same it true for the List of Rabbit Breeds article. The Mini Rex article does NOT mention the Miniature Rex. In the "Breed Standards 2021-2025" (PDF) of the British Rabbit Council, it lists only Mini Rex, NOT Miniature Rex. Is the Miniature Rex a breed? If so, where is it documented? If not, can it be removed from these articles? If removed, the Mini Rex should be specified as also recognized by the British Rabbit Council.Sunandshade (talk) 20:32, 5 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hearing no objections, I'm going to remove Miniature rex as a breed. Sunandshade (talk) 22:59, 7 January 2024 (UTC)