Talk:List of ranchos of California

Date and Granted by
"Date" and "Granted by" are somewhat redundant, but there is some confusion in the records. Provided in the list are the "Date" and "Granted by" found in at least one reference. Some of these are clearly incompatible ("Date" doesn't match "Granted by") - but which was correct could not be determined by this editor. If "Granted by" could not be found it was left blank.Emargie (talk) 17:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Unsourced rancho removed
I removed the following from the list: it's not in the Surveyor general's index. WCCasey (talk) 06:59, 5 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Rancho Rio Seco de San Gabriel
 * 1845
 * Pio Pico
 * Francisco Urbano Estrada
 * 4414 acre
 * 61 SD
 * San Gabriel-El Monte
 * Los Angeles County, California


 * I think the Rio Seco was forgotten, sometimes the surveyors never included every single rancho or rancheria in Southern California. There were pueblos and villas (villages) too small or distant to been examined and surveyed, such as the Rio Seco in the present-day town of Rosemead, California in the San Gabriel Valley. The rancho may been part of the Mission San Gabriel church jurisdiction, which included the town of the same name: San Gabriel and rumor has it there was a Rancho San Miguel perhaps the other name for Rio Seco. The two Archangels Gabriel and Michael were the two main archangels of the bible, so it became the predecessors of the "city of Angels" we all know of as Los Angeles. + 71.102.3.122 (talk) 03:47, 23 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The article Pueblo de Los Angeles begins with "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles (the Town of Our Lady Queen of the Angels)". The name "Los Angeles" has nothing to do with Gabriel or Michael. WCCasey (talk) 02:45, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

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Rancho San Felipe, Las Flores y el Paso del Cajon
The Wikipedia article on Hesperia, California indicates the city began as the Spanish land grant "Rancho San Felipe, Las Flores y el Paso del Cajon". I can't find an authoritative reference to that Spanish land grant, or any mention elswhere on Wikipedia. The article does not reference a source. When I do a web search, most of the results appear to have been pulled from Wikipedia. If anyone out there has an authoritative source on the matter, then the Hesperia area land grant should be added to this list, and the source referenced in the Hesperia, California article. Otherwise, I'm wondering if the information should be removed. MissionInn.Jim (talk) 18:49, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Rancho San Lorenzo was deeded to Guillermo Castro in 1843, not 1841
Guillermo Castro got a minor grant of 600 vara in 1841 (62 acres), which was included in his big 6 square league grant October 25, 1843. The table correctly lists the case as ND29 and the size of the grant. The only error is the year of the grant, it should be 1843. 2600:1700:5FA0:5E60:35F1:BC4E:ADE:E4EF (talk) 00:40, 15 May 2022 (UTC)