Talk:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons/Archive 1

Dr Nick
Where's Dr Nick? He was one of the best incidental characters in the show. "Hello everybody!" "Hello Dr Nick!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.159.214 (talk) 13:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

The nerds
The nerds from homer goes to college were also in, the one where Milhouse is Fallout boy, When comic book guy gets on the computer and talk to the other nerds 24.176.136.76 18:23, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Editted Bernice Hibbert's biography
I removed:

''Bernice is one of the few African-American characters on The Simpsons. Besides her daughter and Lisa's friend Janey, she may be the only Black female character.''

as this is simply not true. Other Afrcian American characters include Dr. Hibbert, Carl, "Bleeding Gums" Murphy, among others. Akshayaj 19:42, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but should Frankie the Squealer, Jessica Lovejoy and Constance Harm not be one-time characters? I did sort of stop following the Simpsons sometime after the 13th season or so, but as far as I know, they only appeared once. But then again, who would have thought, say, Rabbi Krustovsky would return? :)

Subheadings for "major" (i.e., small, but has more than 1 paragraph said about him/her) could make this page easier to navigate. --Menchi 05:28, Aug 9, 2003 (UTC)

Dr. Nick Riviera - There appears to be a contradiction. The subheading is "He impersonates a Doctor", but is followed by "he is the most incompetent doctor ever seen". I don't believe it's actually stated on the show that he impersonates a doctor, and is said he attended medical school. Suggest removal of "He impersonates a Doctor", to be replaced with "An incompetent doctor". Nick04 10:18, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I think the most important quote (IMHO) for Dr. Nick Riviera is missing, as it really shows what kind of doctor he is :P. When watching a video tape on how to make a surgery, at a moment he cries "Oh no! Blood!" Shall I proceed? ;) Fafner 14:18, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

User 159.83.183.250, I made many positive changes in my edit of this page. How were they destructive, and why did you revert them all without discussing on this page? -- Kwekubo 23:36, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)

It appears to me that some comments referring to Dr. Riviera as incompetent and various "funniest" things are POV. --Johnleemk 09:36, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

On the season 1 dvd, on the commentary for "Bart the General", it is mentioned that the writers intended for Herman to give a diffrent reason for his missing arm every time he appears on the show. --Reub2000 5 April 2004

Rose Gleen: how many times di she actually appear (it should be at least two to qualify as a recurring character)? DJ Clayworth 17:59, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

What about that strange man with the funny voice and the big head. I don't beleive he has a name yet, but he has appeared in newer episodes. He often uses the exclamation "Yes!", with a heavy, high-pitched accent on the 'Y'. In the episode where the Simpsons travel to Brazil, he appeared as a waiter who replied to Homer's inquisiton of "does this bill include tip?" with "¡Sí!". Know who i'm talking about? Insomniak 11:14, 11 July 2004 (MST)
 * This man is called the "Yes guy", it seems it has been added in the list ;)
 * Fafner 14:18, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Should Duffman's last name be included? I believe in one episode it was revealed his name was actually "Duffman", though with a significantly different stress than the corporate "Duff-MAN" (more "DUFF-min"). -R. fiend 06:28, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Separate articles for some characters?
We need to give characters their own articles. A lot of these entries are getting way too big. I started with Cletus but "Lovejoy Family" is incredibly large. I think we need to break it up a bit.


 * Followup - List of entries which are too big to be in this "list"

APclark 18:31, 9 November 2005 (UTC) P.S. Why is Jebediah in the list? Is he exactly a "recurring character"?
 * Cletus The Slack-Jawed Yokel
 * Dr. Julius Hibbert
 * Dr. Nick
 * Kent Brockman
 * Lovejoy Family
 * Judging from the title of this article, "list of recurring characters from The Simpsons," I'm assuming its function is to list the recurring characters from The Simpsons. Maybe I'm wrong?  Certainly larger entries should become separate articles, but I think they should still be linked from this list.--Tellybelly 19:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Hans Moleman
There's a discrepancy regarding his "true" age: 31 or 37. Googling turned up mostly clones of this article.
 * What happened to his entry in this article? ~ Hibana 23:41, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * His part of the article should definately be put back in. He's much more well-known than "Wendell". gtdp 22:33, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe it was moved because Hans Moleman has his own article. sohmc 02:16, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Okay, but he's still a recurring character. Shouldn't he still be included on the "list of recurring characters?" --Tellybelly 19:34, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Herman/Bush
I never thought that Herman's voice is similar to that of G.W. Bush. Considering Herman was around far before Bush Jr. became a v. well known figure, that sounds kind of misleading, eh? (Suggesting that Herman could in some way be based on Bush.) If no objection, I'll remove that comparison... Krupo 23:54, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
 * It's talking about Bush Sr, not Bush Jr. BillyH 00:28, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Ah, my bad - can't keep the two straight. :) Krupo 00:46, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)
 * And I believe it's talking about the voice of G.H.W. Bush (Sr), as played on The Simpsons, by the same actor as Herman, Harry Shearer. (When he comes to live next door to the Simpsons). --EatMyShortz 10:09, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Quotes
I think those quotes will have to go... (to Wikiquote) but we can still put the wikiquote links beside each character. J OHN C OLLISON [ Ludraman] 17:53, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * Disagree. There's certainly no rule saying "quotes are inappropriate on Wikipedia".  I think there ought to be a couple of quotes associated with every character on this page.  Tempshill 21:49, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * Agree Tempshill Paul Tracy

"Crazy Jewish Guy
I don't think "Crazy Jewish Guy" (as he is called here) is the same as "Crazy Old Man" who gave it away for free while singing "The Old Grey Mare". I recall a different voice and visage. Removing the reference. Tempshill 21:49, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the "sarcastic man" is refered to as "wisecrack" in the episode guides.-LtNOWIS 03:40, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Images
I think all the images here need to be PNG and not JPEG. Can anyone point me to the source of the imagess so it easier to get them to PNG format? --Berkut 01:41, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

who needs anybondy thts anybondy who needs lovejoy

Spawn of Cletus
Are we sure that Cletus' child "Q-Bert" is actually "Q-Bert"? There is a real name "Cubert".


 * Yes. Yes we are, according to the official The Simpsons: A guide to our favourite family book. RealGrouchy 16:15, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Where is Principal Skinner?

Principal Skinner is in the Springfield Elementary School article, which you can check out for yourself at the click of a button.--APclark 19:02, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Professor Frink

 * Professor Frink was named after an actual producer of The Simpsons, named John Frink.

I heard that the character's name came before John Frink joined the production crew, and that he shared his name with this character was just a wild coincidence... - furrykef (Talk at me) 07:33, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * The real 'John Frink' was a old friend of (I think) Hank Azaria, who later joined the cast. Partial coincidence, I guess. --MartinUK 11:35, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Comic Book Guy proper name or not?
Michael Hardy has changed some of the references to have small 'g's. Is this correct? Rich Farmbrough 09:57, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Michael is mistaken. His "name" is Comic Book Guy.  This caplitalisation is used by the official Simpson's website, the Simpson's archive, The New York Post, this rather definative fanpage and many more.  Worst grammar change ever :) -- John Fader 20:10, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Do you think he should be listed as "Comic Book Guy" instead of "Jeff Albertson"? That whole thing bugged me. Rest assured I was on the Internet within minutes registering my disgust. *Worst break of running-gag ever* :) --EatMyShortz 10:11, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

"arrrr, he'll be dancin' for hours"...
accordian playing clown boy; I know I've seen him in at least two episodes, is he worth adding to the list? porges 07:42, May 3, 2005 (UTC)


 * Really? I've only seen him in one, I'm not sure he'd qualify as a recurring character. --Psyk0 19:06, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Handsome Pete? He dances for nickels. He's only been explicitly mentioned the once, but he's appeared other times, I think. john k 14:09, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Comic Book Guy
I gave CBG his own article, seeing how his entry was long enough for one. --Kross 01:44, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

Pasty-Faced Lawyer
I don't quite think he's "more honest" than Lionel Hutz, he did successfully argue that Bart was Mr. Burns biological son, among other things. --Wingsandsword 08:49, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Cookie Kwan
"She is also single, and often found on the Springfield dating scene where she, like most other Asian-American females, chases white men." - This description seems quite racist towards both fictional Cookie and Asian-American women in general. Further, Springfield does not appear to have a plethora of non-white, single men, thus limiting Cookie's choices. (Sanjay, is that you?) Id-less


 * Agreed. I hadn't noticed that one. --Psyk0 6 July 2005 22:44 (UTC)
 * Sanjay is married, isn't he? Wasn't it his daughter who competed in some talent competition? john k 14:10, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I thought Sanjay was one of the singles in "Marge vs. Singles, Seniors, Childless Couples And Teens, And Gays" (episode #321). Id-less

Mervin Monroe
Is the information about Marvin Monroe's brother in "Simpsons Roasting" correct? The name "Mervin" was changed to "Murray" by a vandal who spends a lot of time trying to insert misinformation in Simpsons articles. Ben-w 20:56, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The Mervin Monroe is correct, it was stated on a trading card, I believe that was on the article once, but perhaps the vandal removed that as well. I have edited it back to Mervin and added trading card info. Squidward2602 15:39, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * there is enough information, esp since he is a finite character, for his own page. i see no reason to merge, as his page seems to be a decent page.

The undertow 10:50, 28 December 2006 (UTC)\

In a recent discussion on Australian radio where Harry Shearer was interviewed by Tony Martin (episode was broadcast live 10/10/07 and can be podcast), Shearer said that he only realized his character Dr. Marvin Munroe had been cut when he caught a glimpse of his tombstone in one of the Simpson's episodes, so how could the absence of Munroe be put down to voice problems? And is it accurate enough to say that (nobody in particular) "believes" he died at the said point? The fact is, the time of his death has never been categorically shown in an episode or officially announced. There are no unequivocal reference's to how he might have died. Sometimes cartoons don't alway's make sense and in in this case I think it should be wrote that nobody knows beyond doubt, when, or if he died.--Wiltthoulearn 11:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. It states here that Monroe is thought to have died in The Springfield Connection, but that episode doesn't mention him in any way. This sentence should be removed unless someone can back it up with a citation. Seansinc (talk) 00:34, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Bobby Stone?
Did someone make up the name of the pasty-faced lawyer?- B-101 17:43, 28 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I think they did; I Googled "Bobby Stone" along with "Simpsons" and returned nothing of any significance. The whole "Elizabeth's brother" thing is a little suspect as well. Plus, the edit is the only one the user had ever done, so I'm thinking vandalism.- Davis21Wylie 16:17, 28 August 2005

"Pasty Faced" Lawyer
On the World of Springfield action figure (WoS being a highly popular and official Simpsons action figure series), the lawyer was referred to as Blue Haired Lawyer. Has the lawyer ever been called anything in particular on the show? Squidward2602 15:42, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Yeh, I think blue-haired sounds more familiar, or more approriate really. change? --Ballchef 04:45, 27 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I don't agree. The Squeaky-Voiced Teen is referred to as "Puberty Boy" on SNPP. APclark 18:10, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

I disagree that he was 'Hugh Jazz' in Flaming Moe's. I'd check but unfortunately I've lent out my season 3. I can't remember exactly what he looked like, but I do recall his voice being distinctly different from the Pasty faced lawyer/blue haired lawyer.

Note to anyone intending on splitting off a section
This page has been processed by N-Bot, which, for browsing convenience, changes links to redirects to lists to links to the relevant list sections: e.g. Duffman is changed to Duffman.

As a result, anyone who intends to split a section out of this page should be aware that, as of 5 September 2005, the following sections were linked to from the following pages:


 * Dr. Nick: Bart Gets Hit By A Car
 * Duffman: Duff Beer
 * Lionel Hutz: List of lawyers, Chuck Cunningham syndrome, Bart Gets Hit By A Car
 * Snake: The Wandering Juvie
 * Lovejoy Family : Lovejoy clause, Matt Groening, Lovejoy clause
 * Artie Ziff: Love triangle, Half-Decent Proposal
 * Kent Brockman: Arnie Pie, Slashdot subculture, Made-up words in The Simpsons, Fraudcast News, The Wandering Juvie, Homer Bad Man, Miracle on Evergreen Terrace
 * Dr. Marvin Monroe: Chuck Cunningham syndrome
 * Dr. Hibbert: Bart Gets Hit By A Car, Make Room for Lisa
 * Jebediah Springfield: Troy McClure, Timeline of fictional historical events
 * Jasper: List of fictional characters missing an appendage

N-Bot (t/c) 19:32, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel
Man, that's annoying! I put List of recurring of recurring characters from The Simpsons all the time and it's been changed to Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel! Not fair. --APclark 18:59, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Lovejoy Family
I think we need to re-do the Lovejoys because they are not one and the same person. I can understand Eddie and Lou and Legs and Louie, because they are seen together virtually all the time. Rev. Lovejoy is not standing with Helen and Jessica when he reads the sermon at church. Will someone please take note of this? APclark 11:28, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Bumblebee man text deletion
I deleted the following from Bumblebee man as it does not seem to make any sense.

"A common fan name for the character is Pedro, t Springfield]], where he really was Hispanic"

Asa01 05:27, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Arnie Pie in the Sky
What is this business - " "Arnie in the Sky" (the joke lying in the obtuse omission of the obvious pun)"?? I've heard "Arnie Pie in the Sky" several time in the series. BabuBhatt 22:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

"Arnie Pie in the Sky" is the name of Arnie's traffic report segment.- JustPhil 00:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Exactly. so what is this: "Arnie in the Sky" (the joke lying in the obtuse omission of the obvious pun)" ???? BabuBhatt 00:52, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

When Kent first introduces the segment which introduces Arnie, he says "and now we go to Arnie Pie, with Arnie in the Sky." I'm not sure if they kept up with the joke...and the current wording is possibly a little misrepresentative...

I just reverted one of these today without realizing it was so contentious. My bad, sorry. Anyway, I just had a search on The Simpsons Archive and found an episode capsule from a 2001 episode in which Kent does introduce the segment as "Arnie Pie in the Sky". So maybe we should just remove the "joke lying in the obtuse omission of the obvious pun" bit; it was certainly true in the earlier episodes, but apparently not in the later ones. --stephenw32768 &lt;talk&gt; 00:17, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Capitalization
Fixed a capitalization error on the Lugash section of this article. The "He" was spelled "he" in the beginning of a sentence. I capitalized the H. SkinnerIJA 19:35, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

You don't need to explain such minor edits in the talk page. Speaking of Lugash, are we sure he's Romanian? I always thought he was Hungarian, as his name indicates. Edrigu 21:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Jessica Lovejoy
Where the heck is she? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keeblerjesus (talk • contribs)



She is Rev. Lovejoy's trouble making daughter!- JustPhil 12:14, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * They said "Where", not "Who".--Greasysteve13 08:35, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

This is the real Tex O'Hara
The rich Texan's name seems to be "Rich Texan".--Greasysteve13 06:35, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Pimply faced kid
Should that pimply faced kid be added? The one that works at the grocery store, Krusty Burger etc? Crazekid 20:52, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


 * "Squeaky-Voiced Teen" already has his own page.- JustPhil 21:12, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Janie
Janie redirects here, but there's no information about the character. 71.105.74.192 05:12, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Try Janey instead of Janie.Muchi 13:43, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Duffmans?
Should it be Duffmans or Duffmen? Duffmans is whats there, but Duffmen sounds like better grammar. JQF 22:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Help with the Old Jewish Man
I added the old Jewish man, but when I did I wasn't sure of the spelling of his deceased brother's name, so if someone who knows more about Jewish names please change it. (Also, I checked around to find a page on the old jewish man first but couldn't, and there aren't any links to him from other pages, but if there is a page and i missed it I'm sorry).JW 16:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * According to both the TV subtitles for the episode, and the quotes on the Treehouse of Horror XVI page (and other places carrying Simpsons quotes/transcripts), his brother's name is Irving. I changed it accordingly. --Stevefarrell 09:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Someone claimed that Homer called him Asa in an episode - this probably refers to the episode The Two Mrs. Nahasapeemapetilons in which Homer calls people by name as he's walking by them at the Springfield retirement castle. 1) the character does not appear to be the Old Jewish Man, and 2) Asa Phelps dies in Raging Abe Simpson and His Grumbling Grandson in "The Curse of the Flying Hellfish", although Old Jewish man is still seen after this. Because of this, I removed the name. JW 10:11, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Cookie Kwans' ancestry
Where is the reference that Cookie is Korean? Kwan is a Chinese name, not Korean. Kransky 03:11, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Jack Larson...
... is just a one time character. --Cyberspace 13:37, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

No he apperead in a few episodes but is rarely,if ever, seen nowadays even in the background Dermo69

Allison Taylor

 * Didn't this character only appear in one episode? If she appeared in the background of a later episode, that really shouldn't count.  I know she's not the only one on the list like that.  Is there a consensus for leaving characters like that on the list? Papercrab 00:32, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Allison Taylor appears more times. -- Cyberspace 18:32, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

There are some characters listed here who are not really recurring characters, such as Allison Taylor, Jack Larson, Jessica Lovejoy, and Menthol Moose. I think we need to establish some rules for who qualifies as a recurring character. I think they should have to have been in at least 3 episodes where they are more than background characters (ie they say something). Who agrees with me? Edrigu 21:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Allison Tylor had three voice actors, so there must be three episode, where she is speaking. Jack Larson appeared two times and he speaks in both of the episodes. Menthol Moose... uh... Im not sure. Maybe he had more than one appeareance, but I just can remember the beauty queen episode. Jessica Lovejoy ist a recurring character, of course. -- Cyberspace 16:15, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Can we have a different picture for her section? The current one features Lisa more prominently than Allison. --WikiSlasher 03:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Lindsay Naegle
I don't think, this why you exactly spell the name. I think, it's Lindsey Neagle. -- Cyberspace 09:29, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Who does Tress MacNeille voice?
I know it may appear the wrong way around to ask this question here, but I was adding links to the 'Voices on The Simpsons' section of Tress MacNeille and found there were a few of her characters not listed here (or on [List of one-time characters from The Simpsons]] - specificially 'Gavin' and 'Billy'. Anyone know?
 * Gavin is that spoiled kid who has appeared in 2 episodes and had about 20 seconds of air time. Billy is the kid from the Troy McClure videos. If you wish to add them, do so in the one-timers section. -- Scorpion0422 00:30, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

The Yes-Guy's real name

 * Where is this information from? -- 87.181.113.192 14:52, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Really confusing
I don't know if you guys realize how confusing it is from the outside to figure out where all the different characters are described at, and the box at the bottom helps a lot but it's...well...at the bottom, so I've added a note at the top in keeping with the tradition of introducing the topic of a page briefly at the top. Irayna 05:28, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Bumblebeeman
I just wanted to know where did you guys got Bumblebee's last name? I've known for long this was a parody of Chespirito's Chapulin Colorado, but I've never seen a mention of his last name being Chespirito in the show. Season? Episode? thanks.

By the way (Kinda Off Topic), there's a line that states that he reads Shakespeare in the comics, well, "Chespirito" was a nickname given to the actor Roberto Gomez Bolaños because of his writing skills, because Chespirito sounds like Shakespearito (little Shakespeare). Vicco Lizcano 23:26, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Forgot to say... maybe that scene in the comic was an obscure in-joke. Specially since Simpsons Comics has a Mexican drawing from time to time(Oscar Gonzalez Loyo).Vicco Lizcano 23:29, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Rich Texan inspiration
It seems to me he's based on James Marion West. See here as well. Ace of Sevens 16:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

God's Five fingers
Thee page says that God is the only Simpsons character to be drawn with five fingers, but according to the page for the episode Lisa vs. Malibu Stacy Stacy Laville (after whom Malibu Stacy was modelled was also drawn with five fingers. SCRA5071 13:27, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Reducing page size
This page is in sore need of being reduced. Many sections are too long. Take for example, Baby Gerald. He's made a half dozen appearances and his section is longer than many others.

There are two options:
 * 1) We split the longer sections off into seperate articles.
 * 2) We trim out a lot of the NN cruft and try to get the sections down to 1 or 2 paragraphs (depending on the number of appearances).

I prefer the second one. The longer sections on the page are for Brandine Spuckler, Arnie Pie, Crazy Cat Lady, Eddie and Lou, Jebediah Springfield, Lindsey Naegle and the Rich Texan. Generally, I prefer to only have pages for characters who have either made (literally) hundreds of appearances or have played a major role in several episodes and have never really been key in several episodes. If anyone does want to split some characters off, I am open to it, but for now, I'm going to try and trim the article because most sections are basically filled with NN trivia. -- Scorpion 15:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm for a bit of both. I do think that certainly Eddie and Lou, and maybe a couple of others should have there own page. (I persoally think that we should just despense with this list and give them all there own pages, regardless of there size, but that is a different matter), as for those that remain the trimming seems like a good idea. Gran2 16:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The thing is: Once you take out the pointless retelling of jokes, many characters don't have much of a page. Eddie and Lou really don't need one. Although, perhaps a for the Springfield Police force could be created and they could be merged there. -- Scorpion 16:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, if a Springfield Police force page was made, then Eddie and Lou would be the only ones there, because there is almost never any other police members shown. I think that they are the most important Simpsons character who do not have a page, and I would like to give them one, but they would of course go together and there would have to be more information than on this page. So, anyway, the page looks okay with all that information taken out, but I would not do any more editing on it. Rhino131 16:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Rich Texan
Somebody got rid of the Rich Texan on this page and gave him a seperate one. Does he really need his own page? This person just took the Texan's section on this page when it was longer and stuck it on an other page. It looks really bad. The person did not even put it on the Simpsons characters template. But, anyway, should it be fixed, added to the template, and be kept as a seperate article, or should it be gotten rid of and put back on this page? I think the second option would be better, but thats just my opinion. Any thoughts? Rhino131 00:04, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Some one needs to add Mr. and Mrs. Vanderbilt to this list
And Gavin (the spoiled boy who always talks back to his mom), Arthur Crandall and Gabbo, and Sara Sloan
 * Arthur Crandall, yes. The Vanderbilts, no. Sara Sloan, perhaps on the one-timers list. The Vanderbilts are EXTREMELY minor characters and the only info given on them would be one-off jokes, which is what we try to avoid. They are mentioned in the general characters list and I think that's enough. -- Scorpion 15:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

The Vanderbilts
I don't give a damn whether you like them or not. I think they've appeared enought times to warrant having their own section.Tj terrorible1 15:28, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No they haven't. They aren't recurring characters, they are recurring jokes. There is not enough information about them to have a section that isn't all "In this episode they did this and in that episode they did that" -- Scorpion 15:34, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Mrs Albright
Hmm, impatient attitude, Southern accent...is anyone else forcibly reminded of Ms Caroline in To Kill a Mockingbird? Leemorrison 23:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I am! I've read the book just this year! It's true, Mrs. Albright does kind of have the stern tendancy like Ms. Caroline. -- Sup3rioruser talk:Sup3rior 17:16, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

crazy cat lady
In the horror film Jeepers Creepers there is a similar character to the crazy cat lady although she doesnt scream nonsense or throw cats at people.--Lerdthenerd 14:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Dr. Monroe
Are we certain that Dr. Marvin Monroe is a psychiatrist, and not a psychologist or other professional with a doctorate? I would love to know any in-show or otherwise canon references as to his degree. Sraan 00:23, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

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Characters who could be added to this list
Here are some characters that I think could be added to this list. They have been in multiple episodes, so I think they should be here (and also, I'm kind of a fanatic about having all recurring characters in this page).

Martha Quimby- After a really bad page on her was deleted, it was redirected here, but no one put anything on her. I can't see all episodes, so I don't know much about her, but i'm sure she has been in a few episodes.

Sam and Larry- they are seen a lot in Moe's. They could also be in Moe's Tavern article if not here.

Arthur Crandall- don't know much about him, but it was said on this talk page he should be in this article.

Dr. Colossus- I think he has been in more than one episode.

If someone could add them, or at least say if they could be on this page, that would be great. Also, what's the name of Krusty's assistaint? I have seen her in a few episodes. Rhino131 21:49, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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Removed "His name is possibly a reference to Akira Toriyama, creator of (among others) Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball" since Akira is a popular Japanese name, and there is no evidence to support this speculation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.242.122.4 (talk) 07:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Maude Flanders
Anyone think that Maude should be moved here, since she has been dead since season 11? Rhino131 17:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

What about Greasy teen?

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Helen Lovejoy
She needs a page, such as Luann, Kirk, The Sea Captain, Cletus, Gil, who are characters who primary makes cameos in the series. Helen Lovejoy needs a page!

Scisser104, 2007, (UTC)
 * Can you please give reasoning other than "she needs a page"? -- Scorpion0422 17:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Helen Lovejoy DOES need a page
Helen Lovejoy has evolved into one of the more majoring characters now. I agree with Scisser.. Besides, there are around fifty characters on that list some need there own articles like before .. Lindsey Naegle and Helen Lovejoy!

I also disagree with Agnes Skinner's page deletion. She had her own starring episode where she became central.

Superioruser talk:Sup3rior, 2007, (UTC)
 * None of those characters would fulfill the WP:FICT guidelines. -- Scorpion0422 05:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Herman Botz?
I was wondering where it is canon that a) Herman's last name is Botzekowski and b) that he's the husband to the Babysitter bandit? (The two characters look similar, but thta might be because first and second season animation was still getting its legs) --Canuckguy 15:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

??
¿What is recurring? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghke (talk • contribs) 22:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Recurring simpsons characters are characters who appear often but not all the time. Rhino131 23:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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Mary Bailey - Political Parties
At the moment, under Mary Bailey, it says she is presumably a democrat, supposing the Simpson World has a two-party system "which may or may not be the case". In the TOH episode where Kodos and Krang take over the bodies of Bill Clinton and Al Gore, they mention the inability of Springfielders to do anything about it on the basis of 'their two party voting system'. Vaughn 21 September 0781.164.241.180 11:07, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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Larry Burns
Does he really belong on the recurring characters page? I can't remember seeing him on any episode except Burns, Baby Burns. His section also needs some serious expansion. - OisinTalk —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 20:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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Wait, I'm confused, what happened to all the images? I was sure they could be used, and to me at least, are nice to have. They show what the character looks like and make the page look a lot better. Scorpian said they there were too many fair use images, but I am not sure what that means. Can there really be too many images on a page? 76.189.123.239 23:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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Veterinarian?
From the looks of it, this is one of those "abandoned" or "retired" characters, and was only used for the time, and doesn't look like it should be a "recurring" character. My thoughts, feel free to disagree.

- Yours truly,  Superior (talk)  02:29, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

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Characters who should be on this list

 * Nick Riviera
 * Snake Jailbird
 * Reverend Lovejoy
 * Hans Moleman now that his list of accidents is deleted
 * Fat Tony
 * Cletus Spuckler
 * Mayor Quimby
 * Howard K. Duff VII
 * Lionel Hutz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.47.197 (talk • contribs)


 * Why? All of the characters with pages meet the notability requirements. -- Scorpion0422 20:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Characters on list who should be moved to one-time characters

 * Princes Kashmir
 * Mary Bailey —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.47.197 (talk • contribs)
 * They've both made multiple appearances. -- Scorpion0422 20:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Characters who should be on list of celebrities

 * Roger Meyers Jr. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.47.197 (talk • contribs)
 * He's not a celebrity, he's a CEO. -- Scorpion0422 20:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Cecil
I'm not convinced that Cecil is a recurring character. He has only been in two episodes, and the second was kind of minor, he did not have that big of a role. I would suggest a move back to the one time characters list, but I am open to other thoughts. Rhino131 (talk) 01:45, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, but the episode just aired, so if we moved him back, an IP would immediately take him here again. He's a popular character, so we'd probably have to deal with multiple anons. My strategy is to not fight for a month and then hopefully we can move him back with little incident. -- Scorpion0422 04:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I disagree, but not strongly enough to fight over it. He has appeared twice (at least), so isn't he a recurring character? At the very least, calling him a one time character is incorrect. I won't get involved in it, just throwing in my $0.02. Cheers, faithless   (speak)  03:33, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thats a good strategy Scorpion, go ahead with it. And other characters one the one time list have appeared in a second episode briefly, so according to the page, Cecil is a onetime character anyway. Rhino131 19:10, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

The Veterianarain's deletion
Obviously he is not much of a recurring character if you ask me. If I agree with you he was just made for Dog of Death and Matt Groening just randomly put him in So It's Come To This a Simpsons Clip Show and Who Shot Mr. Burns. Also he did not appear in Another Simpsons Clip Show. So in conclusion he is a minor character made for one situation in The Simpsons and just made two random appearances. If he made more random appearances he should of been on this list however he didn't and he should not be on this list as he did not appear after Who Shot Mr. Burns?.
 * He was still in four episodes, thus making him recurring. Cecil was only two, why aren't you complaining about him? -- Scorpion0422 03:06, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

jewish characters
I read at simpsons' official website that krusty is the ONLY jewish character in the series, but this article claims that almost everyone is jew, could someone fix that?!


 * Huh? The crazy old man is obviously a Jewish stereotype.  Duffman says he's Jewish.  Krusty's father is a rabbi.  The only other one it says is Jewish is the judge, which may be dubious. john k 18:42, 1 December 2005 (UTC)


 * However, it seems that anyone black who was originally yellow in The Simpsons seems to be instantly condemned to be "Jewish" on Wikipedia. ☺ AP  clark   Be nice not nasty  21:10, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Also crazy old man's proper name is "Old Jewish Man." --Simpsons fan 66 00:08, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Not knowing if it is a used Jewish name, but would Krusty's father's name Hyman, and the fact that he is Jewish, be any reference to female anatomy of hymen?

Arnie Pye
Why is he not on the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.5.200.68 (talk) 20:26, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

He is on List of celebrities in The Simpsons. Rhino131 (talk) 02:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Sectioning
I have to say we should put two sections in this article one for recurring characters who appeared in a lot of episodes and one for recurring characters who appeared in 2-10 episodes.71.125.47.197 (talk) 20:26, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Barney Gumble
i believe that barney gumble should be moved onto this list,as he is rarely seen in the episodes from the last 5 years or so,although he was in it quite alot in the early days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harry-fox (talk • contribs) 14:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Barney Gumble has met certain requirements to have his own article.

Own Articles
i think that when over 15 lines is written about one of the characters on this page,they should be taken off this list and they should have their own article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harry-fox (talk • contribs) 18:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Like who? Tell me whose sections are too long and I'll trim them down. Length has nothing to do with giving a character their own page, they must pass the WP:FICT guidelines which say that a character must have real world info on their page. There really isn't a lot of that kind of info for any of these characters. -- Scorpion0422 02:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't really think you should trim any one down. Its a shame that the policy is so hard on characters who would seam to warrant their own articles on nobility alone. But adding in a bunch of extra requirements, I'm surprised we can get by with the articles we do have. The section on this page is great as is, having just a few sentences gives the impression the character is not notable or important, which is usually false. Rhino131 (talk) 02:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Voice actor format
What is the general format used for giving voice actors? There seems to be at least a dozen methods used on this article. TTN (talk) 03:16, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, all of our good character articles basically just have it in sentence form, so I guess that's what we should do here... Or you could check one of the character list FLs/GAs (there are a surprising amount of them). -- Scorpion0422 03:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Characters in Two episodes
A lot of characters on this list have appeared only in two episodes. Any character who appeared in 3-7 episodes I consider recurring.Simpsonguy (talk) 20:57, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I am somewhat torn, but I also somewhat agree. I mean, Francesca and Gino Terwilleger have appeared twice but the only member of Bob's family on this list is Cecil (who has also only appeared twice); a proposition would be for a page to be created for the Terwilleger family (like the Flanderses, van Houtens, Bouviers and Simpsons) although this list would include six character sections (perhaps four, if you group Francesca and Gino together and mother and father in one section). Every member of the Terwilleger family (besides Gino and Judith Underdunk) has been voiced by a guest star (Kelsey Grammer, David Hyde Pierce, John Mahoney, Maria Grazia Cucinotta). - Yours truly,  Superior   (talk)   01:58, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Lugash is the other character on this list that appears in only two episodes but can stick because both his roles were sort of major.Simpsonguy (talk) 01:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Sarah Wiggum
Sarah Wiggum does need to be expanded. What happend to her old entery it was a lot bigger and was more descriptive. This new one only explaining what Marge said about her in Eternal Moonshine of the Simpson MindSimpsonguy (talk) 23:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Snake Jailbird merge
Snake has never been more than a minor character in the show, and his page currently fails the WP:FICT guidelines. I do realize that over a dozen other Simpsons articles don't really meet it either, but in those cases, there is potential for improvement. However, for Snake, I can't recall anything more than a fleeting mention of him in any of the commentaries and I checked several interviews and reliable sources and couldn't find anything in the ways of real world info. The only policy based reason I can think of that argues for keeping the page is that mass character pages like this should be kept short, but that guideline also says that pages must still have enough real world info to justify an individual page. I'm also considering proposing merges for several other characters, including Martin Prince, but I'll wait a few days for that.. -- Scorpion0422 09:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree it should be merged, he is just a minor character  C t j f 8 3  talk 19:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

We should try to make articles as detailed as possible,so the one about snake should not be cut if it is transfeerred to this section —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harry-fox (talk • contribs) 14:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I also think it deserves mentioning that in prison, Snake Jailbird tells his ex-girlfriend Gloria "Someone's been editing my biography on Wikipedia. I want you to kill him." This is the first mention of Wikipedia on The Simpsons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.118.26.32 (talk) 00:02, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * But what does it have to do with Snake's character?
 * Ummm....he's the one who says it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.66.193 (talk) 01:07, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Characters who could be recurring and added to this list
I'm sure this happens a lot, but I really want as many characters to be on this list as possible. I have come up with a few characters who I think are recurring and therefor would be added to this list. If anyone agrees with me then I will put the characters on the page.

Thanks. 76.189.126.249 (talk) 03:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Ms. Pennycandy (I think that's her name)- Krusty's assistant. I think her first appearance was in Like Father Like Clown, and has appeared since.
 * Arther Crandall- he might just be a one time character, though
 * Jake the Barber- first appeared in one of the Tracy Ullman shorts, later appeared in Simpson and Delilha and 22 Short Films About Springfield, maybe other appearances.
 * Dr. Colosses- the supervillian. Could be recurring or one time, I'm not sure
 * Gavin- a spoiled kid who talks back to his mother
 * Martha Quimby

All the characters you have their are simply just a bunch of minor characters. They would be on a list of minor characters if there was one.Simpsonguy (talk) 20:28, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Could you name the minor ones? I have not seen all the episodes, and I do not know if they only appeared once or something. But ones who have appeared in a few episodes (such as the barber) would be recurring and therefor on the list of recurring characters. Rhino131 (talk) 22:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * All of them are really minor and have only appeared in a few episodes. In my mind, recurring means at least five appearances. Under that definition, the barber might deserve mention here because he's been popping up since the Ullman shorts days. -- Scorpion0422 23:29, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Why would we list the barber? He is an extremely minor character, even if recurring in more then 5 episodes  C t j f 8 3  talk 00:43, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * To me, the fact that they are recurring is enough. So I would vote for at least putting the barber in, as well as others if they are recurring. I have a feeling we could find a lot of characters that have been in about 3 to 7 episodes (the republican vampire for one), so there could be many more characters who are a "minor recurring" character. Rhino131 (talk) 02:15, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I can say that a few other characters I can say are recurring but yet minor are Principal Dondelinger (appears in The Way We Was, She Used to Be My Girl, Half-Decent Proposal, and The Front), Dr. Velimorovic the plastic surgeon from Pygmoelian, Large Marge, and suprisingly Husbands and Knives, the Nahasapeemapetilon Octuplets from Eight Misbehavin', The Sweetest Apu, Alone Again, Natura-Diddily, Bart Mangeld Banner, Bye Bye Nerdie, Large Marge, and tons of other episodes, the Spuckler kids from Days of Wine and D'ohses, The Twisted World of Marge Simpson, Viva Ned Flanders, Little Big Girl, When You Dish Upon a Star, I'm Spelling As Fast As I Can, Helter Shelter, and Yokel Chords, although the ones in Yokel Chords are completely different ones, and tons of others I can say. There is a big world of minor recurring characters in The Simpsons that appeared about 3-7 times.Simpsonguy (talk) 20:57, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The Spuckler kids are always different, plus they are mentioned at Cletus' page. Apu's kids are mentioned at Apu's page. -- Scorpion0422 21:42, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow, I never expected such a response (I asked the original question). I guess we would need to come up with a definition of "recurring" and "minor recurring". I would also add that maybe even if they only have a few speaking appearances, if they appear in crowd scenes often then that could be worth something. So we should decide the definition of recurring and then add any character that meets that definition, because there are a lot of them out there. 76.189.126.249 (talk) 21:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This page is mainly used to give brief bios of the more notable characters. The one you want is the List of characters in The Simpsons, in which every recurring non-background character can be listed, as well as a few of the more notable one-timers. -- Scorpion0422 22:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I just started the discussion to see if there were any characters that should be on this page that were not. I realize that none of these characters have the importance of characters on the list. But still, characters appearing multiple times, thus being recurring, should be on this page not matter how important (to me at least). As a side note, would anyone know is the characters I mentioned were "minor recurring" and not "one time". Just for curiosity sake.76.189.126.249 (talk) 22:51, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I see that the barber and Ms. Pennycandy have been added, so thanks to whoever did it. I will try to see if I can find any source that says the number of appearances of characters, and if a do, I will use the information to see if any other characters warrant inclusion. My ID thing might have changed, but I asked the original question. 76.189.125.215 (talk) 22:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

One thing we have to do is try not to add too many minor characters, or else the list becomes far too crufty. Lois Pennycandy has only spoken in one episode, and if gave a section to every character that has appeared in more than one episode, then this page would be twice as large. The List of characters in The Simpsons is for that, this page is just meant to give extra info to some that would qualify for their own page, but don't fully meet the WP:FICT requirements. A page for a character like Lois Pennycandy would be deleted with little debate. -- Scorpion0422 22:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess you are arguing with me, but I can't bring myself to agree with you. Your problem is that you are too caught up with all of the WP:Crap out there. No one can really put something on wikipedia without some one else saying, "Oh, you can't do that because its a violation of WP:You can't do that or WP:she has only spoken in one episode which makes her cruft or WP:wikipedia has so many rules that  it is driving User:Rhino131 insane." The page is for "recurring characters in the Simpsons". She is recurring, because recurring is not about speaking. If, lets say, Agness Skinner was mute and never talked when she appeared, nobody would say she is not recurring. Just appearing in many episodes makes a character recurring. Oh, and characters who have appeared in two or possible three episodes would not be here because that is not recurring. And actually, every sentence in Pennycandy's section appearers to have a source verifying the information, so I don't see why its cruft. And, really, is anyone really going to care if all the minor recurring characters are on this page? (Though I am sure there is a WP:Something that says this is not a valid argument). Rhino131 (talk) 23:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If you don't like the rules, then perhaps you should give the Simpsons Wiki a try. She has only spoken in one episode, so perhaps she is more suited for one-timers page. The Simpsons is a show where virtually every character who has appeared in a large role an episode appears in the background in later episodes. So by your logic, practically every character from the one-timers list should be merged here. To prevent this page from becoming a disaster where every character that has appeared in two episodes has a section, we limit it to recurring speaking characters, and limit the one-timers to the one-timers page and the rest to the general characters list. -- Scorpion0422 23:35, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I really doubt that most one timers appear in the background multiple times, and even if they do, the one time page still defines that as appearing one time. I have already said I don't consider twice appearing characters as recurring anyway. You seem to be thinking I would want to add characters like that one try n save security guard, who has appeared in one episode and in the background of another. I don't consider pretty much any of the people on the one time page to be recurring; I have a good idea of who is recurring and who is not, and she is. My problem is that I am obsessed with putting every single recurring character on the page, rules or no rules. I know I won't get my way, however, so I'm not going to try to put her back again. Rhino131 (talk) 01:59, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Blue Haired Lawyer
I deleted that last sentence. The one guy actually ferers to Ray Combs (the family fued guy who hhung himself). This character is nto based off either Ray Combs or Roy Cohn.
 * According to the people who actually CREATED the character, he is.  TJ   Spyke   12:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Sarcastic Man?
I thought his official name was Wiseguy. I have The Simpsons Beyond Forever book and he is refered to as "Wiseguy" in the book.Tj terrorible1 15:04, 23 April 2007
 * Technically, it's not 1 character. The producers (in the commentaries) have said it's a voice they like to use for a lot of different characters. So it would be "wiseguy voice".  TJ   Spyke   12:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Lindsay Naegle
I just watched the episode a few days ago, but i'm pretty sure that the producers (on the DVD commentary) said that the female executive in "Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie" was NOT Lindsay Naegle, but her voice was used for the Lindsay character later on. I will listen to the commentary again to make sure before changing it. I'm actually listening to the DVD commentary for the episode "Girly Edition", and they even mention Girly Edition being her first appearence (showrunner Mike Scully confirms it).  TJ   Spyke   12:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Images
Since October many character images were removed and deleted. Those that were removed can easily be found on episode pages which I did to most characters but many others who got there images deleted need images. Dave Shutton needs a more descriptive pic while Ruth Powers has a pic on Marge on the Lam but it is also a bad one. We need new images quickly as many beginning fans of The Simpsons need to see how many minor characters look like.Dr. Ralph Wiggum (talk) 23:14, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the image policy strictly forbids having images on list pages. Were actually very lucky to have the ones we have now, because the second an image policy enforcer sees this page, they`ll remove them and there will be nothing we can do about it. -- Scorpion0422 23:25, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You know what images on lists are wrong but I think it should be similar to the format of the one-time characters list but that seems irrelevant. Anyway in my view Wikisimpsons has images of most of these characters and we should put links to their Wikisimpsons page so the reader can get an idea of the looks of the character.Dr. Ralph Wiggum (talk) 20:15, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If the Simpsons Wiki was a good site, then maybe, but it was an absolute mess the last time I looked at it. -- Scorpion0422 20:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That site is beyond a mess! A lot of what they have is copied off of us. Plus linking there violates wikis external link policy number 13.  C t j f 8 3 talk 20:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Technically they are allowed to copy anything they want from Wikipedia, the GFDL license specifically allows that. Linking to other wikis and sites anyone can edit (like Urban Dictionary) is not allowed though since they can't be considered reliabel sources.  TJ   Spyke   06:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Bud Armstrong
Would Bud Armstrong the Pro Football comissioner fro Homer and Ned's Hail Mary Pass and Million Dollar Abie be considered recurring. He has appeared in two episodes like many characters on this list (examples, Jack Larson, Lugash, and Cecil). Anyway if not he should be on the list of one-time characters under Million Dollar Abie, but that sounds abnormal as his second appearance would be his one-time character appearance.Dr. Ralph Wiggum (talk) 23:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Two episodes is not recurring (Cecil has already been removed and Larson has appeared in more than two), unless he has had minor appearances or appeared in the background for a few more episodes. In the one time characters list, he would be listed under the episode in which he first appeared chronologically. Rhino131 (talk) 00:04, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Lance Murdock
Shouldn't we add Captain Lance Murdock from Bart the Daredevil? I've seen him in several episodes, including Viva Ned Flanders. Just wondering =-) Ryan Holloway (talk) 21:58, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well he didn't do much in Viva, and was only shown briefly, so I still think he is a one time character  C t j f 8 3 Talk 22:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * He is a recurring character, but is on List of celebrities in The Simpsons. Rhino131 (talk) 01:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Mole (Very old man)
This guy is a Joke character (Getting declined a new licence etc), and sadly died in the Simpson’s movie after his petrol tank exploded. Has any one got any info on this character? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amckern (talk • contribs) 09:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe you're referring to Hans Moleman who already has his own article. Did he die in the movie? I don't remember that. --OZOO 14:52, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry he seems to 'almost die' so often - thanks for the link anway :)--Amckern (talk) 05:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, poor Hans. Although he does have his own article, shouldn't he have a short description on this list too?BBlze1 (talk) 18:50, 18 March 2008 (UTC)