Talk:List of renamed places in Zimbabwe

Name changes
Excellent work on this page! Two comments:
 * 1) Bulawayo is an example of settlements whose name did not change as the colonial-era name used reflected the correct Ndebele pronunciation. Other examples include Lupane, Gwanda, Filabusi, Insiza. The changes to Shona pronunciation were limited to the Mashonaland provinces, Midlands and Masvingo. Hwange and Mbalabala are Kalanga.
 * 2) The naming of some roads after Robert Mugabe should be understood in the correct context: it took place alongside the other changes in road names. So although most towns/cities have roads named after him, they also all have roads named after JZ Moyo, Josiah Tongogara and so on. Whilst there are obviously people who do not like it, this is not a separate case of renaming, but part of the process of recognising major nationalist leaders in the road names. Babakathy (talk) 09:56, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That first comment gives me an idea: perhaps a table with all the name changes with explanations, for example


 * To simplify things it might be better to just refer to "regions" (Mashonaland, Matabeleland etc) rather than the provinces, which as you know include divisions into East, Central etc. Moreover considering the context labelling Harare as in "Harare Province" doesn't really help international readers. What do you think?


 * The second thing, regarding the naming of things after Mugabe and other black nationalists, is made more clear in the body of the article. I've changed the last sentence of the lead to end "... in favour of those of black nationalist leaders, prominently Robert Mugabe, Joshua Nkomo and Josiah Tongogara." What do you think?


 * Thanks for the comments and I hope you are well and having a productive week. —Cliftonian (talk) 10:21, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I basically agree. For a full table, maybe give connection rather than just colonial connotations, e.g. Marshall Hatley, Lord Salisbury etc?
 * Regions rather than provinces: yes, also as provincial configuration has changed significantly over the period discussed.
 * Nationalists: Jason Moyo also in most towns. Babakathy (talk) 06:41, 6 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes I remember street signs with Moyo well, but these things tend to work better in threes and I happened to put Tongogara instead. Anyway, I've switched in the lead for Moyo, and Tongogara is still mentioned in the body.


 * Re the table—yes, I think you're right. I also think it might be more accessible for most to have the new names in the first column. So maybe a format along these lines

—Cliftonian (talk) 07:55, 6 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Additional info:


 * Chimanimani (referring to the nearby mountains)
 * Kwekwe, referring to nearby river, whose name reflects the cries of frogs, common in the river
 * Masvingo: Changed first to Nyanda (referring to the nearby mountain), then to Masvingo (referring to the nearby Great Zimbabwe ruins)
 * Mbalabala, better reflect local Kalanga word for the kudu

Babakathy (talk) 08:41, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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