Talk:List of reportedly haunted locations in the United States/Archive 1

To the splitter
Thank you so much for and great job on the splitting! It makes it a lot easier to edit and maintain. serioushat 01:26, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Hauntings should be grouped by state and listed alphabetically
Although it was a good idea to split this into its own page, there is no rhyme or reason to its layout. Most people are interested in a geographic area, not the exact type of place haunted. The page is extremely hard to navigate and getting more disorganized all the time. The groupings are arbitrary. I don't have time to do it right now, but someone should start organizing all hauntings by state and keep them in alphabetical order. The current groupings should be eliminated and replaced with groupings by state. RandalR (talk) 13:07, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Agree. Plazak (talk) 14:10, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for the help. RandalR (talk) 14:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

New Jersey Section needs to be revamped
Someone who clearly doesn't know how to make articles made that section. The language is not in an encyclopedia-esque tone and there are absolutely no sources given. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.8.193 (talk) 09:10, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Virginia: Crawford Road
Maybe someone with better writing skills than mine can address a few things.

The grammar and syntax is awkward, and there is some questionable spelling. Yorktown is a single word, not two, and the statement "Formally a creek” doesn’t fall within the usage of the word “formally”. I haven’t listed all I have noticed, but there are more. The statement "Today the road is closed off due to a lot of strange activities” needs a bit of clarification. I’ve been unable to find where VDOT has closed any roads for paranormal activities ( as the statement infers ). 27thva (talk) 01:36, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Elting Memorial Library in New Paltz (village)
It's a video of a spider on the lens. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alucardbarnivous (talk • contribs) 23:36, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Pennsylvania
Should Pennsylvania get its own page as what was done with California? Alucardbarnivous (talk) 23:09, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned references in List of reportedly haunted locations in the United States
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of reportedly haunted locations in the United States's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 07:12, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Improve references
Someone keeps trying to place categories throughout other articles on the Wiki and cite this article as the source. (You can't do that...WP:SELF)

No refs have been provided. Since this is taking place, it is time to look this article over and scrutinize the refs. I just removed a slew of things that do not qualify as reliable sources. If it isn't a real book or newspaper then it probably isn't a real source. Things like shadowlands.net or paranormal.org are just websites and not reliable sources, they don't count and shouldn't be added.

Also, there is a difference in shows like Ghost Hunters which may (or may not) establish notability for some of the topics mentioned but the show(s) are not recognized as reliable sources themselves.

I haven't begun to scrutinize the books...not every book is a reliable source. Please choose sources carefully. Try Google books or newspapers...not fansites, blogs, websites. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 19:14, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Did You Reach Me
I am surprised Alaska and Hawaii have not been captured to stir up the article in excitement.--GoShow (...............) 03:32, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

south dakota
there are a few places here in south dakota that are haunted like the bullock hotel the hotel alex johnson black hills state university the belle fourche highschool and many others 209.159.233.194 (talk) 00:37, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Vermont
In Brandon,Vt a black barn near a train station the window on the top of the barn has know to show a face of a woman. You cant enter the building up by the window — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.169.3.181 (talk) 16:54, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

KANSAS--What about the Sallie House?
The Sallie House in Atchison Kansas has been called one of the most active haunted locations in the United States. I think it should be listed here--do you agree? For more information: Search on YouTube for "Sightings show sallie house" (Filmed 1992). See also the recent episode "The Harpy" of Paranormal Witness (SciFi show, Dec 2013). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.51.122.100 (talk) 15:15, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Gwinnett County, Georgia, U.S.
In Gwinnett County, along Five Forks Trickum Rd., near Martin Nash Rd., young males driving alone will have a wheel come off their car and a Gwinnett County Police officer in a GCPD car will show up and ask the male if he has any 'enemies' due to someone loosened all of the lug nuts on the wheel. This used to happen during the 1980s once every few months or years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncsr11 (talk • contribs) 09:58, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Hauntednorthamerica.net
http://www.hauntednorthamerica.net/all-locations/all-locations-united-states/anchorage seems to source majority of this article's content. Whether it or not WP:RS, relying on it fully is not wise and this article really needs massive clean-up currently. It seems to attract a lot of drive-by additions and is currently in a mess. I request interested users to monitor it by watchlisting this page and try to mop it up. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:40, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not a RS. Nor are other paranormal websites, pages and books. I'll try to mop up the article section by section as time permits. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:49, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've tried it some weeks ago only to see more additions be put here. Thanks for replying, and I'll even post a request in WikiProject Cleanup. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:05, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "'At the University of Toledo in Toledo, Ohio there are three telescopes, in association with the university's Ritter Planetarium. The largest telescope is rarely used, the smallest is the most often used, but the third telescope has been out of use for some time and has developed strange brown stains on its exterior white dome. A male scientist ghost is believed to haunt the telescope, and some parts of the interior of the building develop a blue tinge in the evenings.'"
 * Above is just an example of the unreliably sourced or unsourced nonsense that accumulates at this article faster than anyone can delete it. It badly needs a cleanup. LuckyLouie (talk) 18:05, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Arizona - Jerome Grand Hotel
The Jerome Grand in Jerome, AZ is haunted! I experienced an encounter firsthand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.207.204.57 (talk) 21:21, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Reliable sources
Official government websites listing these places are a great source. http://www.arkansas.com/things-to-do/haunted-arkansas/legends/ shows various haunted places in that state, including many things not on this list yet. Each state should have such things listed somewhere.  D r e a m Focus  11:03, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

what about adding more special haunted sites to this website?
Id like to contribute more. How can we add some additional sites to this web page for interested viewers? Arkansaswolf (talk) 23:15, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Possible way to improve?
Hello, I picked up this article from a list of articles needing editing. I started but I wondered if it would be easier if a comment at the beginning of the list made it clear that all the items are 'alleged' or 'reported', ie subjective experiences. I won't do any more unless there is a consensus. Let me know if I can help. Regards, Myrtle. Myrtlegroggins (talk) 07:57, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately this and other 'reportedly haunted' list articles are magnets for unreliably sourced WP:PROFRINGE nonsense. A disclaimer in the lead isn't a replacement for each entry being described neutrally and sourced to reliable independent sources. - LuckyLouie (talk) 14:00, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Yes, I think I'll leave well alone because it is too tricky to edit the syntax with all the "allegedly" this and "reportedly" that maintained in each paragraph. I am neutral on the subject itself. I think it could be presented if it was made clear it was folk lore. On the other hand, WP is not a tour guide. Kind regards, Myrtle Myrtlegroggins (talk) 06:44, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Ghost Hunters and Ghost Adventures.
I just went through and removed all unsourced entries from the list, and made a few other cleanups to it. Among the things that I removed as unsourced were several that were actually kind of sourced in an improper way, namely by an assertion that, "X has been featured episodes of Ghost Hunters and Ghost Adventures."

Adding that sentence to the end does not satisfy sourcing requirements embodied in the pillar of verifiability. It does not tell the reader which episode of the show in question to watch to verify that X is, indeed, reported to be haunted. Moreover, those shows don't just visit random locations to determine if they are haunted; the places those shows visit already have a reputation for being haunted. Therefore I would prefer to see published material cited alongside a citation to the show.

An appropriate way to cite a show like that would be to use the Cite episode template. At a bare minimum, we need not just the name of the show, but also the name or number of the episode where the location is featured. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 18:16, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Talk:List of reportedly haunted locations in the United States/Sourced but not notable
I think this list should be confined to entries on locations that have a Wikipedia article written about them. I am moving entries that are sourced by apparently reliable sources but that don't have articles about them to a talk subpage. That way if, in the future someone writes an article about, say, Harrison Cemetery in Coffee County Alabama, we can move the entry back over source and all. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 16:14, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Indiana list article?
Indiana is like one of the most haunted states in the U.S. There's OVER 50 BUILDINGS that are haunted in my county in Indiana. There's ABOUT 80 cemeteries that are haunted too. Not only those, but OVER 45 BRIDGES are haunted.HurricaneGonzalo (talk) 12:36, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * sources? ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 18:04, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Many sources. Such as one about the Big Tunnel in Tunnelton, Indiana. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.225.218.37 (talk) 17:49, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm sure there are many sources; but didn't cite them in the original post.  Anyone can feel free to add entries to this list, so long as they cite a reliable source.  Looking just now at the article for Tunnelton, Indiana, the section on hauntings does not cite a reliable source.  It cites a bulletin board discussion forum and someone's Flikr album. Those are both forms of user generated content that Wikipedia does not consider to be acceptable sources.
 * This article currently cites some of that type of source, but I'm (slowly) working on cleaning this article up so that it conforms to Wikipedia standards. Once I've knocked out everything that is totally unsourced (done) and everything that refers to a location that does not have its own Wikipedia article (almost done), I'm going to work on improving sourcing by separating what cites a acceptable source from what cites unreliable sources, and looking for reliable sources for those things that don't currently have them.  Once everything on the list cites reliable sources, I'll work on adding more entries, adding intro text for each state, trimming excessive detail from those entries that have excessive detail, adding detail to those entries that are lacking in detail, and deciding on appropriate illustrations. Both of you and anyone else who wants to help me are welcome to help me, but please make sure you understand what is and isn't a reliable source and if your focus is on adding entries, please make sure to cite a reliable source when doing so. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 16:02, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Doing research for another article I stumbled upon this source, which is a reliable source and discusses haunted locations in Indianapolis. It can be used to expand the Indiana section, though of course Indianapolis isn't the only city in the state with reports of hauntings, and once again, I would encourage the OP and IP editors above me to provide sources for potential entries elsewhere in the state. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 21:40, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * @, I have found a source that states "Scariest locations in Indiana". The page also gets on the topic of the ghost sightings too. HurricaneGonzalo (talk) 21:25, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Talk:List of reportedly haunted locations in the United States/Sourced but not notable
I think this list should be confined to entries on locations that have a Wikipedia article written about them. I am moving entries that are sourced by apparently reliable sources but that don't have articles about them to a talk subpage. That way if, in the future someone writes an article about, say, Harrison Cemetery in Coffee County Alabama, we can move the entry back over source and all. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 16:14, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Just to keep the bot from archiving this. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 16:33, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

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Discussion of reliable source

 * Per this revert, I do not understand why this source is not "reliable." I mean, haunted house stuff is really non-provable anyway, and this web page quotes a published source (this book).  What else is needed here?   Montanabw (talk) 02:14, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Please read Identifying reliable sources. That website does not appear to check facts or have editorial oversight, advocates a fringe belief, and reports rumors as fact - it is clearly a questionable source, not a reliable one. It also appear to be self-published, which is another sign it cannot be considered a reliable source. Edward321 (talk) 13:37, 30 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, haunting itself is a fringe belief (I personally think it's complete hogwash, but it's amusing hogwash), so... what IS "reliable" about haunting? I mean, seriously.  This ain't WP:SCIRS -- and they did cite to a book.  Would the book cited to work?  Montanabw (talk) 20:31, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I can't speak for Edward, and I haven't evaluated the source he objects to, so take this as you will. First, I would generally prefer to see citations to books, newspapers, and travel guides than random websites. Second, we have to remember that we aren't saying these places are haunted. We are saying they have a reputation for being haunted, that multiple people have claimed they are haunted such that the ghost story part of the story of what interests people about the place, what makes the place notable. Some ghost websites meet that bar, others don't.~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 12:51, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

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Why isn't the St. Augustine Lighthouse in Florida section
The Wikipedia article for the lighthouse even mentions ghost stories and alleged hauntings. The lighthouse was even mentioned in many paranormal TV shows. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CycoMa (talk • contribs) 18:06, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

There is a lot more not on here in Alabama
I know a lot more places in Bama then they have on this list need to add more. i can go on and do that for everyone. 1HitWonderTed (talk) 09:44, 10 October 2020 (UTC)