Talk:List of roller coaster rankings/Archive 2

Problem with Colossos
Went over to RCDB and they're not even listing Colossos on their tallest list anymore. Duane gives his reasoning saying that the ride's height, when combined with its top speed, isn't adding up. With a lack of reliable sourcing for its height and a recognized reliable source having doubts, should this even be here anymore? -- McDoob AU93  19:37, 22 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Just noticed this. Yeah, it can be an issue when RCDB questions the validity of something. However, I've never liked the "I have this hunch" approach, even if the math doesn't add up. We really need verification that the claim is untrue, since many reliable sources have reiterated the 60 m height claim as fact (LA Times, Coaster Wars, etc.). I tried my best to locate the controversy of the claim on the internet, but wasn't able to find anything that lists it as controversial with the exception of RCDB. In fact, Guinness World Records published this in 2014, which seems to verify the claim. You would think they would have vetted the claim thoroughly. Does anyone have a recent copy of their records publishing? If it's listed in there, I would say keep for now until more information surfaces. --GoneIn60 (talk) 23:44, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

New World Record for Wooden Coaster
Just found this article and thought someone with better skill than me could update the rankings. http://online.thatsmags.com/post/record-breaking-wooden-roller-coaster-opens-in-eastern-china Springfinger (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:40, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Unsourced rankings
The article has four lists that aren't backed by a reliable source: I propose we remove these lists, since the rankings haven't been confirmed. Thoughts? --GoneIn60 (talk) 17:41, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Steepest steel roller coasters
 * Steepest wooden roller coasters
 * Tallest roller coaster inversions
 * Tallest vertical loops

Update
Apparently this was never addressed. If there isn't a response in the near future, I plan to remove these rankings from the list. Thank you. --GoneIn60 (talk) 16:32, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Astros4477, since you were a main contributor to this article, I figured I'd ping you on this before I remove anything. Also looping in McDoobAU93 and Dom497.


 * I could go both ways on this subject. I understand that there is no source that actually lists the rankings but these lists also survived two Featured Article Nominations and a peer review.--  Astros 4477  ( Talk ) 22:03, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Very true. But I think since a majority of the lists are backed by RCDB.com, it might have been an oversight and just missed. Was it ever specifically addressed in those reviews, do you know? --GoneIn60 (talk) 17:25, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I just looked over those reviews and it was never brought up.--  Astros 4477  ( Talk ) 03:28, 19 August 2015 (UTC)


 * OK, the way I'm leaning is to remove them for now. Then, if a source emerges later, we have the lists in the page history and can easily restore them. Without a source that ranks them, it could be considered original research to rank them ourselves. --GoneIn60 (talk) 22:32, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I completely understand.--  Astros 4477  ( Talk ) 20:21, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

✅. Since there were no objections, I've removed the questionable categories listed above. If new evidence or details come to light, we can always restore them. --GoneIn60 (talk) 19:59, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Why is Lightning Rod Closed all of the time.
I can't find anything about why it is always closed. Tyler Shasteen (talk) 01:19, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Lightning Rod
Someone added Lightning Rod to the tallest wooden coaster stats, but so far I've not seen anything confirming its height. The press release and the newspaper article say "20 stories", but that's such a vague term that it could well be less than Colossos in height yet still be 20 stories. Can someone post a link here or add it to the article for Lightning Rod so we can have it for the encyclopedia? -- McDoob AU93  19:19, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * McDoobAU93, the park's website claims 206 feet, as do a few other sources, however more reputable ones (such as RCDB) do not list it. Technically, the lift hill is 80 feet off the ground, so this would put it in the same situation as The Beast at Kings Island, whose lift hill is only 110 feet despite having a 141-foot drop. The park is clearly defining this in their own way, so I've removed it from the list barring confirmation from an unbiased secondary source. --GoneIn60 (talk) 23:45, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Dollywood did the same thing with Wild Eagle back in 2012, claiming a 200-foot-plus lift hill when its first drop is actually about 130 feet. Much like Wild Eagle, Lightning Rod will climb a hill to get to the main layout, so they're using the height differential from the station to the top of the lift. I'd wait until a non-PRIMARY source appears. -- McDoob  AU93  16:58, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

It is not the tallest Tyler Shasteen (talk) 01:20, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

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Editing the list
Hey! It says on the list under most inversions for a wooden rollercoaster that it is outlaw run and wildfire(3). However, Steel vengeance has broken this record with four (4) inversions. https://www.cedarpoint.com/explore/steel-vengeance Could someone edit this?

Thanks!


 * Steel Vengeance is a steel roller coaster using wooden supports, not a wooden-track coaster like Outlaw Run and Wildfire. That is why it's not included in that particular listing. -- McDoob  AU93  19:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Red Force drop length
An editor keeps adding this coaster to the drop length rankings list despite not having a source (diff1, diff 2). While we can reasonably assume its drop is over 300 ft, we shouldn't be adding it to the list until the drop length is verified. Unfortunately, RCDB.com doesn't list it, so another source is needed for this. I attempted to remove it for now, but insists on leaving it in. --GoneIn60 (talk) 22:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC)