Talk:List of schools and organizations related to forensic entomology

Honestly, this was a topic that I did not even think to put in as a project but after reading the article I am convinced that this was a excellent topic to write on. The more knowledge that people know on a particular subject the more people become interested. I like how you mentioned the different programs in the U.S. One thing I would suggest is more detail on the ABFE. This is one of the top organizations and I feel that more detail will give the group the justice it deserves. Also, more pictures would not hurt. What the did the five fingers say to the face? Slap! and thats what y'all did to the selected topic lol.MrBryant44 (talk) 06:56, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Good topic choice. This article goes in to detail and lets people know more about the forensic education choices they could choose. Putting more knowledge about the field out there will help the field grow. If I would add anything I would add to the Texas A&M section, Dr.Olson that retired from the A&M Entomology Dept. He has tremendous experience in the field and should be mentioned when you mention Texas A&M Entomology. (Orb80cool (talk) 23:05, 17 April 2008 (UTC))

I liked the article just maybe you could give some background information about the individuals that are members in the ABFE. Like where they received an education from and how did they get to be in this organization.(June21st86 (talk) 22:51, 17 April 2008 (UTC))

Good topic to write about. Within the "forensic entomology and the law" under CSI effect are additional schools which offer forensic science programs including NCSU and WVU. Maybe we could find a way to merge part of our information into yours. Clemson has a criminal justice path which has forensic science included but I know there has to be more than just 5 colleges in the entire country. Good job detailing the differences and areas of overlap concerning the different boards of certification. Quatrevingtsix (talk) 17:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Good article guys, but maybe yall should elaborate a bit more on the ABFE since it seemed like a pretty big deal when our prof talked about it in class. You could mention the test the have to take and how selective it is to be a part of the organization. Maybe its best to also include some pictures as well. Azayed34 (talk) 20:27, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Interesting article and good information for people who are interested in finding more about or pursuing forensic entomology, but alot of programs are out there that are not mentioned in your article. If not to go into great detail and explain them, should at least make note of or mention them. -Lauren —Preceding unsigned comment added by Runwild2006 (talk • contribs) 00:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I figured out why it had the organizations listed under schools, because part of the A & M section through to ABFE doesnt show up on the main article, but it is on the edit page. We just need to figure out how to get the missing stuff to show up on the main article. Lauren Kalns (talk) 22:39, 21 March 2008 (UTC) Never mind, I got it fixed.

Guys, we have the associations listed under the schools in the menu table, Im not exactly sure how to change that but we need a separate section for associations. Lauren Kalns (talk) 21:03, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Just a quick mention--there are many many many more programs that are out there--you should at least have all the schools where ABFE members are located. ABrundage, Texas A&amp;M University (talk) 22:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, clean up the "orphaned" banner by following its directions. (Go to related pages and add links)ABrundage, Texas A&amp;M University (talk) 04:14, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I didn't realize how many organizations were out there. Maybe add some pictures of people in charge of these organizations. Solid topic and eye opening. Thanks. Dbw279 (talk) 20:36, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys, ABFE has 15 members, all board certified. maybe you guys can add the schools where they are at or the requirements to be in the ABFE. Good article. Agbetty (talk) 10:52, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This topic is unique but very well written. I am not sure that it belongs on Wikipedia because it does not really give encyclopedia information. I think if you remain on the site then it should be merged with another Entomology topic so if someone wanted to learn more then they could contact or attend one of these institutions. This information is important and hard to find on the web but I just don’t think it should stand alone on the Wikipedia site. Overall good job though!Thom2577 (talk) 01:02, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Please stop reverting my edits
I completely resent my edits being reverted without comment, I am certainly not used to being treated like a common vandal. Now, I think it's a good thing that you have been set an assignment that involves contributing constructively to Wikipedia, but that doesn't mean you can just casually flounce our guidelines, and I don't think anyone would agree more with that than your professor. The edits of mine that you continually revert are the removal of the notice, the removal of the top section title, and the addition of an uncategorised notice. The notice about the assignment is removed because that is a notice clearly intended for a talk page- it does not relate to the topic of the article, so could not be considered part of the article, and it does not relate to improving the article, like cleanup messages do. I remove the top section title so as to create a lead section- we don't have areas titled 'introduction' and the like, we have lead sections. I add the uncategorised tag because, quite obviously, the article has no categories. At the end of the day, this is a Wikipedia article, not your own personal assignment, so you will have to follow Wikipedia guidelines and policies and remember that it does not belong to you. I must warn you that continuing to remove cleanup templates without addressing the problem could lead to you being blocked for disruption, and that continuing to edit war with me could lead to you being blocked for a violation of the three revert rule. J Milburn (talk) 01:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Please follow these directions--remember that Wikipedia rules should be followed to the letter, and my suggestions/rules second. Take user suggestions very seriously. ABrundage, Texas A&amp;M University (talk) 02:27, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

J Milburn, thank you for your edits on this page and sorry for the edit war that you have been going through. Your edits have been constructive to our page despite the confusion. We will do our best to follow in line with the wikipedia standards, but it is good to have users like yourself to make sure we do. Thank you again for you contributions. Lauren Kalns (talk) 03:02, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Mark!!! Site your sources! Lauren Kalns (talk) 03:04, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

LAUREN, I sited them you nut! haha... thanks!

Also, under references, there are several links that are not used internally in the article. If they were not used in writing the article, dont include them, and if they were, there needs to be internal documentation so that they will have numbered links in the context of article that will link to the references. Lauren Kalns (talk) 03:08, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion to Merge Another Article
Your article was really informative. I feel that it would be a good idea to merge your article into the education section of our article "forensic entomologist". We are group 10. This has been suggested by other participants of the project on our talk page. This is just my opinion, but I feel that your article would greatly compliment ours. I have already included a link to your article in case you do not agree. garza_j_e (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Very informative but visually it would be nice to have some pictures of the Michigan Bug House as well as some of the entymology specimens that Texas A&M has on exhibit in their museum. Photos do help to catch the eye as well as a great article. Just a suggestion thats all.Txdevine1 (talk) 19:42, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Your article is very interesting and informative, but I do think that it could be merged into the overall "forensic entomology" page. There doesn't seem to be enough information to constitute a well-rounded article. It is well written though, and it would be a great addition to any article. I also agree with the above comment of adding. I would love to see some pictures of the people and places that are involved with forensic entomology. Pinksugar85 (talk) 01:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments
Under NAFEA, are those numbers suppose to be 1-6? It can easily be fixed, but I wasn't sure if you wanted it to be so I didn't, but you might clean it up before tomorrow! Good info! Alli5414 (talk) 04:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, just a couple of things. In the Michigan St. University section, there is no citations. The comment about it being called the "Bug House" and then all of those interesting facts should probably be referenced somehow. And then just to point on under the NAFEA- when you list the 6 objectives, you have each of those numbered as #1. I didn't know if you meant to do that? Thanks! Laylou11 (talk) 21:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, all of you did a great job on your article. I loved how you outlined some topics in the "Bug House" and also under the organizations. However, there is a website address underneath the section for Michigan St. University that should be moved down to the bottom either as a reference or as an external link. Great job! Sasquash128 (talk) 04:32, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This article is very informing especially for those who want to further study this subject. I like how you all provided international information along with the schools in the states. Those were some cool facts regarding the "bug house" The article was very well stated and I gained pertinent information after reading. Good Job! Heathcj (talk) 06:00, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it was a great topic idea for this wikipedia project! I love how when listing the universities that focus on forensic entomology, you listed Texas A&M University first :-)  This is a great article because people who are interested in forensic entomology, or just forensics at all, can look right here and see the opporunities available to them, in order to further their education on the subject.  Especially with pop culture making forensics more and more popular, this career choice is also going to become increasingly popular, so this page of yours will be very helpful to people seeking to find more information about where to begin.  Certainly the AFBE and NAFEA are very important in this article, but my suggestion would be that in keeping with your topic, you could have listed the members of the boards and the colleges where THEY received their education.  I always like to know where their credibility comes from.  Great page team!  --Brokenice928 (talk) 16:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Good article, it really helps for finding out about schools that can get you started on your career in this field. This project should get a lot of looks.Cellimj (talk) 21:08, 16 April 2008 (UTC)§ cellimj

This article is very well written but something that might good to add to each section would be the research that is being done at the universities concerning forensic entomology. Talk about what Adrienne and Dr. Tomberlin are doing or have done that have contributed to A&M concerining there research.--Escaladebball29 (talk) 02:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Nice job! I really like the fact that you are bringing attention to the schools and organizations working in the field. I think that it's really important to give recognition like you've done for those who are so dedicated. I really enjoyed the fun facts that you added. My only suggestion is to maybe add a little more information about the ABFE because the other organizations have so much more information about them. Other than that I think you did a great job! :) Briteny 05 (talk) 04:54, 18 April 2008 (UTC)briteny_05

Good information I think more schools should be add and picturesCedric14 (talk) 17:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

a fellow ENTO classmate...
I figured that you added that first definition of forensic entomology to introduce the broader topic first, and then break off into your specific subtopic, but you might want to take another look at that definition.

Instead of "Forensic Entomology is the study of insects related to humans. There are three areas associated with forensic entomology, urban entomology, stored products entomology, and mediocriminal entomology", might I suggest something like::

"Forensic entomology is the use of insects and arthropods to aid in legal investigations through a thorough knowledge of their life cycle and specific eating, mating, and migrating habits. The broad scope of forensic entomology is categorized into the following: urban entomology, stored products entomology, and mediocriminal entomology."

Think about it...

Other than that, your page is great! It was just that one, measly sentence. Cvela (talk) 00:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

The article is good i didnt realize there were that many organizations dealing with forensic entomology. If i did have to change anything it would be the numbered list for  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stogie77 (talk • contribs) 20:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Good Topic! I would not have thought of a topic such as this one. I liked that it was all on one page. Could there have been more agencies added to you list?--Raebeam (talk) 11:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

References Alert
Your references are not to wikipedia standard. You currently have an extra set of brackets around each link in the references section. It only requires one set of brackets. Also, wikipedia prefers a LINK to a website rather than the URL (plus the reguralry sited information). Here is a quick example: Visit Wikipedia this will lead to the words "Visit Wikipedia" in bold, than can be clicked on to view the site. Please take a look at some other pages of you are still uncertain. PS-this is by far the most interesting topic chosen, I never would of thought of it.--Amandamartinez06 (talk) 06:56, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm impressed with the information. However, the title seems a little bit too long, it may be hard for people to come across this site with such a broad/long title. Since this page deals with medicocriminal entomology maybe make that the focus of the title. You found some good/interesting facts though especially about Michigan State University. Also, you might want to include a little more about the background or importance of this field. Good work! Mcgi133 (talk) 03:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

There is a lot of places with programs related to forensics i did not know about and many more you could have added. All in all this is a good reference if one was going to contact or attend one of these university programs. (Rbmoeller (talk) 14:59, 18 April 2008 (UTC))

Individual courses (WP:NOT, WP:DIRECTORY)
Is it the interest of Wikipedia to publish the individual courses of colleges and universities, *especially* if these courses are out of date and not actively maintained? Wikipedia is not a directory (WP:NOT, WP:DIRECTORY). Should discussion of these courses not be removed, as they are not in of themselves particularly notable? The Amazing Matt (talk) 05:14, 12 November 2019 (UTC)