Talk:List of serial killers by number of victims/Archive 3

Semi-protected edit request on 5 October 2019
Some sources say that Pedro Rodrigues Filho committed some of his murders in Bolivia as well. If you would to search Bolivian serial killer on the web, Pedro Rodrigues Filho comes right up! 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:12, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 5 October 2019
I request that Louis Van Schoor should be listed with 39+ murders, rather than just 9+! There is a link on the article that clearly states he committed 39 or more murders! 198.133.167.86 (talk)

http://mg.co.za/article
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Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2019
It says in many sources that Yvan Keller committed up to 150 murders! He should be listed with 150 murders, instead of 23. Some sources say 40-100 murders. 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:23, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

http://www.psycho-criminologie.com

http://www.astro.com
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Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2019
Please add "Please do not expand the list by killing people." after "This is a dynamic list and may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness. You can help by expanding it with reliably sourced entries." Thank you! 71.38.94.43 (talk) 22:58, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2019
Yvan Keller should be listed with 150 proven murders instead of just 23! Some sources say 40-100 murders! It clearly says it in the link, so it should be fine. 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:15, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

http://www.astro.com


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. What link are you talking about? The astro.com link doesn't go to a specific source. Marianna251TALK 19:37, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2019
Niels Hogel should be listed with 106 murders instead of 85. It says 106+ murders in the actual article! 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:19, 7 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The source clearly says he was convicted for "only" 85 murders. Thank you for alerting me to the error in his article; I will correct the infobox. Marianna251TALK 19:44, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2019
It should be listed that Pedro Lopez committed some of his murders in Bolivia as well! If you would search Bolivian serial killer, Pedro Lopez will come right up on the web! Please include Bolivia on the list as well?! 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:31, 7 October 2019 (UTC)


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Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2019
Hu Wanlin should be included on this list! He should be included in Medical professionals and pseudo-medical professionals list! 198.133.167.86 (talk) 15:57, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

http://www.thegaurdian.com/uk/2000/feb/01/shipman.health
 * Yes check.svg Done Spintendo  18:58, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2019
Hu Wanlin, Chinese serial killer, should be included in this list. He should be included in Medical and pseudo-medical professionals list! 198.133.167.86 (talk) 15:49, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

http://www.thegaurdian.com/world/1999/Jan/08/
 * Yes check.svg Done Duplicate request (see below). Spintendo  19:00, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 October 2019
Bruno Ludke is listed with 51 proven murders, thus he should be in Serial killers with highest known victims list! 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:38, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2019
Louis Van Schoor should be listed with 39+ murders instead of 9 murders! He should be moved to Serial killers with highest proven victims list! 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:09, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

http://mg.co.za/article4-arparteid-killer-finds-religion-but-not-remorse
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Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2019
German serial killer Carl Grossman should be included in this list, in Serial killers with 15-30 proven murders list! He committed 26+ murders. 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:21, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

http://pages.uoregon.edu/kilo/city/berlin/control-revised.ppt
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Ridgway currently in Walla Walla State Pentitentiary in Washington.
Gary Ridgway's entry should be edited to state he is no longer at USP Florence in Colorado, and was transferred to Walla Walla State Penitentiary in Washington in 2015. (From Gary Ridgway page: White, John (October 24, 2015). "Department of Corrections: Gary Ridgway returned to Washington State Penitentiary". KCPQ. Tacoma, Washington. Retrieved October 25, 2015) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.47.14.74 (talk) 19:09, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 October 2019
Nicos Metaxas should be included in serial killers with 10 to 14 proven murders list! Serial killings in Cyprus! 7 proven murders! 198.133.167.86 (talk)

http://www.theguardian.com/2019/May/12/it’s-hard-to-take-in-how-serial-killings-left-country-reeling
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Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2019
German serial killer Bruno Ludke should be moved from Disputed cases list to Serial killers with the highest proven victims list! He has 51 proven murders listed! 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:12, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

http://www.britannica.com/biography/Bruno-Ludke
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Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2019
British serial killer Trevor Hardy should be included on this list, in Serial killers with less than 5 proven victims list! 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:22, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programs/b006ppmq
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Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2019
Mariam Soulakiotis should be listed with 177 proven murders rather than 27! The article says she killed an additional 150 children through neglect in addition to the 27 other murders! Thus 177 murders. 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:18, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2011/12/greek-serial-killer-cult-leader-mariam.html
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Blogs are not reliable sources. Nici</b><b style="color:purple">Vampire</b><b style="color:black">Heart</b> 11:25, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 October 2019
Mariam Soulakiotis should be listed with 177 murders rather than 27, as the article states she killed an additional 150 children through neglect! Thus 177 murders! 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:14, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

http://www.reddit.com/r/serialkillers/comments/dbwfit/mariam-soulakiotis-a-greek-serial-killer-known-as/
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Like above, Reddit is not a reliable source. — <b style="font-family:Ariel; color:red">IVORK</b> <b style="font-family:Ariel; color:Green; font-size:x-small">Discuss</b> 05:52, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 October 2019
Bruno Ludke should be moved from Disputed cases to Serial killers with the highest number of victims list! He is listed with 51 proven murders in the article! 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:00, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

http://www.sunsigns.org/famousbirthdays/profile/bruno-ludke/
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Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2019
Tony Alexander King should be included in this list! 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:24, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

http://criminalia.es/asesino/tony-alexander-king/
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Semi-protected edit request on 17 October 2019
Mariam Soulakiotis should be listed with 177 murders, rather than 27! The article states she killed an additional 150 children through neglect, thus 177 murders! As do many sources! 198.133.167.86 (talk) 04:18, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

http://wikivisually.com/wiki/Mariam_Soulakiotis
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Suggestion for missing entry
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aileen_Wuornos Hellosodas (talk) 13:53, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Hellosdas. Don't suppose you're based anywhere near Ellsworth, Maine, by any chance, are you? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:54, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 October 2019
The article on Luis Garavito states he also committed his crimes in Argentina as well! Therefore Argentina should be listed in the main article on this page! It states it more than once! It says he committed his crimes in Mendoza province, Argentina! 198.133.167.88 (talk) 03:45, 18 October 2019 (UTC)


 * ❌. The article only said that because you changed it to say that, and you did so without providing any sources, as you have failed to do for this edit request.  I've undone the change at the target article and will continue to watch it. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 04:33, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2019
"Female" is an adjective, not a noun. Do not use "female" when "women" or "female victims" is intended. It is dehumanizing. 84.55.91.66 (talk) 11:00, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Reworded to women or female victims as appropriate. See Special:Diff/922601223. Thanks, <b style="color:black">Nici</b><b style="color:purple">Vampire</b><b style="color:black">Heart</b> 04:05, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 October 2019
The Monster of Florence should be listed with 16 murders rather than 14, which is listed on the article! Even the Italian translation of the article states 16 victims! It even states many sources say at least 16 victims. 198.133.167.88 (talk) 04:13, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

http://the-line-up.com/monster-of-florence
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Convicted of 14 (ie proven), suspected of 16 (ie possible). Article appears correct to me. <b style="color:black">Nici</b><b style="color:purple">Vampire</b><b style="color:black">Heart</b> 04:07, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Son of Sam?
I don't see David Berkowitz listed on this page. Am I missing something? Craanthjar (talk) 18:03, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 October 2019
Sicilian serial killer Giuseppe Greco should be included in this list! He was convicted of at least 58 murders! 198.133.167.88 (talk) 14:26, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

http://www.nationalcrimesyndicate.com/day-1952-giuseppe-greco-born/


 * ❌. Please provide a reliable source for this information (what you included is not), that indicates that he was a serial killer and not just a hired killer.  –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 15:11, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2019
Giuseppe Greco should be included on this list of Serial killers with the highest proven number of victims section! He was convicted of 58 murders. He article I posted and linked states he was a hired/serial killer as well. 198.133.167.88 (talk) 15:34, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

http://www.nationalcrimesyndicate.com/day-1952-giuseppe-greco-born/
 * ❌. See response above, from yesterday. - ChrisWar666 (talk) 22:33, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2019
Jayant Patel should be in included in this list of Medical professionals list of serial killers! 198.133.167.81 (talk) 15:33, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

http://www.medicalbag.com/home/features/despicable-doctor/this-surgeon-spent-his-entire-career-as-a-defendant-in-court/


 * ❌. Not a valid request.  Please, just stop with these.  –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 20:08, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2019
The Monster of Florence should be listed with 16 murders, rather than 14! Most sources say 16 murders! The Wikipedia article even states 16 murders. 198.133.167.81 (talk) 15:07, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * ❌ Unsourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:09, 8 November 2019 (UTC) p.s. as Deacon Vorbis says above, it's time to stop these requests now. See WP:SPA. Thanks.

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2019
Is there by chance you could create a Contract Killers list on here of Serial killers? I am just wondering! I think it would make sense since there is multiple different categories on here, such as medical professionals, groups and couples, etc. I am just requesting it, that’s all. 198.133.167.81 (talk) 17:06, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * ❌ There might be a chance if you first opened a thread to discuss what you propose might be in such a list. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:22, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2019
Hello hose Muñoz Filho should be included on here! 198.133.167.81 (talk) 00:50, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2019
Add South African serial killer named "Asande Baninzi"

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asande_Baninzi KevinL81 (talk) 09:17, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Baninzi is already included in this list. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:38, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2019
Dean Corll is missing from this list, 28 identified victims in Houston, TX. He has his own Wiki page 74.192.222.94 (talk) 21:57, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 28 November 2019
Nigerian serial killer Henry Chibueze should be included in this list! In highest number of victims list. 198.133.167.81 (talk) 18:41, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3004394/vampire-serial-killer-killed-police-dragged-through-streets-nigeria/
 * Not done, does not have an article here and appears to be a hoax article. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:53, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 November 2019
Ibadan forest of horror should be included on this list! This has a Wikipedia article! 198.133.167.81 (talk) 19:06, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/03/disturbing-tales-ibadan-forest-of-horror/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26721112 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.133.167.81 (talk) 19:12, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Not done, not an individual serial killer – Thjarkur (talk) 21:35, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 December 2019
Under Medical professionals and pseudo-medical professionals, add a section for British nurse Beverley Allitt, convicted of 4 counts of murder Toffeebear30 (talk) 15:17, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
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I don't see a local serial killer listed on the list of serial killers by the name of Cletus Reese of Coshocton county Ohio USA. Four bodies were found buried on his property in 1954 now know as murder ridge. Up to 20 people could have been his victims. https://www.swordandscale.com/the-legend-of-murder-ridge/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A000:1102:C33D:BDFA:2095:FC38:D293 (talk) 07:50, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2020
inclusion of Beverly Allit in the medical professions part of this page. Beverly Allit was a British nurse who murdered 4 children, attempted murder to another 3 and serious bodily harm to 6. 27.32.245.246 (talk) 22:46, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2020
Please include Harold Shipman, aka Dr. Death, who killed 218, possibly up to 250. 95.149.46.116 (talk) 21:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Already included, List_of_serial_killers_by_number_of_victims – Thjarkur (talk) 22:12, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Hu Wanlin removed - not a serial killer
I am removing Hu Wanlin per WP:BLPCRIME, previously discussed at Talk:List of serial killers by number of victims/Archive 2. The source provided says nothing about him being convicted of killing 16 people, his only conviction is illegally practising medicine. The source makes this clear, saying "It was not clear why Hu had not been charged with murder in connection with the medical cases". Per WP:BLPCRIME he is innocent of any charges he hasn't been convicted of, and cannot be labelled a serial killer. Rising5554 (talk) 19:57, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2020
add the serial killer Leonarda Cianciulli - active in Italy in 1939/1940, she was convicted with the murders of three women. She turned the bodies into soap bars in order to get ride of the proofs. 82.54.149.237 (talk) 15:42, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I see there is an article for her at Leonarda Cianciulli. Do you have a good, preferably English language, source that is WP:RS? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:46, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

tell me if this works for you https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27257822 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.54.149.237 (talk) 16:51, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * And not just soap, it seems, but also "pasticcini croccanti", which has been rather clumsily translated as "crunchy teacakes"! Yes, that source looks fine, thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:57, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * ✅ Now added, thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:17, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Jakrapanth Thomma
Hi, I don't see Jakrapanth Thomma from Thailand on the list. He recently killed 29 in a mass shooting. As in 'recently' I mean last week. I do not know if a mass shooting counts in the making of the serial killer, but let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.155.147.119 (talk) 20:14, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Aileen Wuornos is missing from the list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aileen_Wuornos

'Aileen Carol "Lee" Wuornos Pralle[2][3][4] (/ˈwɔːrnoʊs/; born Aileen Carol Pittman;[5] February 29, 1956 – October 9, 2002) was an American serial killer and prostitute[6] who murdered seven men in Florida in 1989 and 1990 by shooting them at point-blank range.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.179.176.66 (talk) 11:58, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2020
Add - May 30, 1996 and June 13, 1996 - Robert Jones and Scott Nordstrom - Murdered 6 people over 2 weeks at Moon Smoke Shop and Tucson Firefighters Union Hall, Tucson, AZ. 72.201.70.10 (talk) 23:38, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2020
Albert Fish is missing from the list, he is a child murderer, rapist and cannibal who was charged with the murder of Grace Budd (age 10), Billy Gaffney (age 4) and Francis X. McDonnell (age 8), he has 3 confirmed victims and 9-100+ unconfirmed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish FUNCtionxd (talk) 11:59, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Jack Frost (talk) 03:39, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2020
Please add Darryl Turner to "Serial killers with fewer than five proven victims." Draft article is pending: Draft:Darryl_Turner


 * Darryl Turner
 * {US}
 * 1994-1997
 * 2
 * 7+
 * Convicted of raping and murdering two women in Washington D.C., suspected in at least 7 murders
 * Convicted of raping and murdering two women in Washington D.C., suspected in at least 7 murders

- Ledalion (talk) 16:26, 4 May 2020 (UTC)


 * ❌. Only two proven victims, which puts him under the list's threshold of three. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 19:14, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps move him to the disputed section? Confessed to nine murders, however there is some dispute, per https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/article/21070003/did-the-princeton-place-killer-take-credit-for-a-murder-he-didnt-commit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ledalion (talk • contribs) 19:31, 4 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: What you're saying isn't supported by the text in that article. The article says he was convicted twice and suspected in others, which puts him below the threshold as Deacon Vorbis says. If he's confessed to nine, that should be in the article, and even then is borderline for inclusion here. Even if agreed to here, this can't be added to the live list until the draft article is moved into mainspace. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 15:07, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2020
Gary Ridgeway is currently imprisoned at Washington State Penitentiary in the IMU-South unit. I know because I work there as a corrections officer and often escort him to his showers and rec. 47.33.141.57 (talk) 07:25, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:33, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Safety
"Please do not expand the list by killing people"

We MUST write it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.25.135.2 (talk) 09:50, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2020
Changing 16 to 17 in Jeffrey Dahmer's amount of victims. (His page says 17) Hämärhemmo (talk) 15:37, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. This page lists 16 confirmed and 17 possible. I suspect his main page just uses the number of suspected. If you believe the number of proven is 17, please provide a source. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 18:04, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 June 2020
The serial killer, Arnfinn Nesset, of Orkdal, Norway, active from 1975 until his capture in 1983, convicted of 22 confirmed murders by use of the poison Curacit, which paralyzed the victims breathing. The poison killed the victims with just a few mL, and Nesset had ordered 12 L’s.

(Sources: documentary from tv2.no, the serialkiller in Orkdal) 88.90.242.144 (talk) 15:53, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Already included in the list with reliable sources. Jack Frost (talk) 06:03, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2020
Add Danny Rolling aka The Gainesville Ripper. Confirmed to kill 5 students in Gainesville, Florida in 1990. Confessed to an additional 3 murders in Shreveport, Louisiana. He raped 3 of his victims, and mutilated and posed the bodies of several. Executed by lethal injection at Florida State Prison on October 25, 2006. 184.88.237.214 (talk) 04:19, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2020
Change the use of "prostitutes" throughout this page to "sex workers". 75.132.243.19 (talk) 03:36, 3 September 2020 (UTC)


 * ❌. All prostitutes are sex workers, but not all sex workers are prostitutes. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 03:37, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 September 2020
124.49.87.16 (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you have the source?  Heart  Glow (talk) 18:03, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Lee Choon-jae's number of victims is 15, not 16.124.49.87.16 (talk) 04:06, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Megan☺️   Talk to the monster  21:59, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2020
change Bian kuang to Bian Kuang 5225attack (talk) 16:42, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Dylsss (talk) 16:46, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Marc Dutroux should be added
He is extremely infamous and has at least 5 well-documented murder victims; Mélissa Russo, 8, 24 June 1995, abducted and imprisoned, died of starvation and dehydration, found in Sars-la-Buissiere Julie Lejeune, 8, 24 June 1995, abducted and imprisoned, died of starvation and dehydration, found in Sars-la-Buissiere An Marchal, 17, 23 August 1995,[7] abducted, imprisoned and raped, buried alive after being wrapped in plastic, found August 1996 Eefje Lambrecks, 19, 23 August 1995,[7] abducted, imprisoned and raped, buried alive after being wrapped in plastic, found August 1996 He also murdered an accomplice; Bernard Weinstein. In addition, he was convicted of at least 6 rapes and remains a suspect in several other deaths. He already has a Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.207.54.111 (talk) 16:46, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2020
Change: the beginning to: Please do not expand this list by killing people. 71.86.61.155 (talk) 19:02, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Covered by WP:RISK and WP:DISC. Melmann 15:35, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2020
Aileen wuornos is missing from the serial killers list 174.252.157.237 (talk) 08:19, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. ◢ <i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i>  (Say hi!) 09:34, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 December 2020
Mariam Soulakiotis should be listed with 177 victims rather than 27, where the page clearly says she killed an addional 150 children from neglect? Please? 198.133.167.88 (talk) 05:04, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Commonly cited number is 27, with 150 more possible. – robertsky (talk) 14:35, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2021
- ElekTeK (talk) 12:19, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
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Alexander Pichuskin
Has 48 confirmed kills, with a probable upper bound of 60, due to his detailed tracking of his murders. A good candidate for the page in my opinion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Pichushkin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6011:3C40:CEF0:8CA:243C:EA5:EFC6 (talk) 07:09, 18 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Agree, Alexander Pichushkin. The fact that he looks unnervingly like British comedian Robert Webb should not necessarily rule him out. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2021
Add Anders Behring Breivik to the list. 77 people killed. and the world must never forget 81.237.132.40 (talk) 21:14, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ❌ "A serial killer is typically a person who murders three or more people, in two or more separate events over a period of time..." Anders Behring Breivik killed 8 people by detonating a van bomb and then killed 69 in a shooting spree, all in a single day. So he's categorised as a Spree killer. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:23, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 March 2021
Change KAMPATIMAR to KANPATIMAR 183.83.208.61 (talk) 17:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi IP 183. Are you suggesting that the existing name of the article Kampatimar Shankariya should be moved to "Kanpatimar Shankariya"? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:17, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: According to Kampatimar_Shankariya, "Kanpatimar" is a nickname based on his killing method, not his actual name. RudolfRed (talk) 04:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2021
Elizabeth Wettlaufer, 8 confirmed victims, canadian serial killer who worked as a nurse and murdered her elderly patients because "a voice told her to." 2601:1C0:8601:A780:C59C:7034:4CCC:9789 (talk) 21:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, Elizabeth Wettlaufer seems to be missing. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:27, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2021
I skimmed your list and did find that you are missing Isreal Keyes on your list who was convicted and confessed to 4 murders, and there are multiple he is suspected of committing based on his interesting M.O. and background. Also, D'Angelo I believe was convicted of 1 more murder recently and there are a number of cases still open that police believe he has been linked to. 47.149.92.54 (talk) 00:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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Add Albert DeSalvo, also known as the Boston Strangler
Add Albert DeSalvo, also known as the Boston Strangler, convicted of murdering 13 women between 1962 and 1664 in Boston.
 * Boston Strangler already included: "The crimes were attributed to Albert DeSalvo based on his confession, details revealed in court during a separate case, and DNA evidence linking him to the final victim." Martinevans123 (talk) 10:29, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 April 2021
The Chicago Strangler should be added in on here!

The unidentified killer Raped and murdered 55, possibly many as 75+ women and girls in southwestern Chicago between 2001 and 2021 198.133.167.83 (talk) 23:00, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2021
Addition to Ivan Milat - Died in custody 2019 103.246.36.7 (talk) 23:06, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
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War criminals
Add George W. Bush to the list of war criminals at the end of the lede. 2600:1012:B1BC:6CE7:0:2E:91D5:AC01 (talk) 19:39, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2021
In the list of 15 / 30 victims count. Belongs Maria Swanenburg, 27 victims and suspected to be over 90+ victims. 3 years active and used poisoning to kill her victims. She's from the Netherlands. 62.133.99.118 (talk) 01:38, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2021
Request to add the Serial Killer Timmothy Krajcir to the list, 9 proven murders for 1977-1982 in the United States, also a medical professional as an EMT. Known as the “Bandana Rapist“, killing and molesting women in Missouri, Illinois, and Pennsylvania while wearing a bandana on his face. Confessed to all of his murders, evidence not found until over 2 decades later due to the new DNA tracing technology. Now serving time in an Illinois Prison.

Source: Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Krajcir Seans99 (talk) 02:46, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
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 * Done with RS. OsFish (talk) 04:23, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 June 2021
Please immediately remove the recent addition for Hu Wanlin from the medical practitioners section as a grave BLP violation. The source dates from before his trial, where he was not convicted of killing anyone. 86.187.172.104 (talk) 09:00, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:06, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 June 2021
On the Julio Pérez Silva entry, please add "mostly teenager girls from poor neighborhoods, which delayed the start of an official investigation" or a similar phrase to his victim description, as 11 the 14 of them were between 14 and 18 years at the time of their deaths, all from marginalized areas. The official investigation started only after the 15th victim survived the attack, as the police had told the families their daughters had most likely joined prostitution networks to escape poverty and domestic violence so no investigation was warranted (sources https://www.latercera.com/noticia/15-anos-del-sicopata-alto-hospicio/ https://www.latercera.com/noticia/burgos-califica-como-legitimas-manifestaciones-de-familiares-de-victimas-de-psicopata-de-alto-hospicio-en-contra-de-su-nombramiento/ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265598622_ANGELES_DEL_DESIERTO_ANALISIS_DE_UN_CASO_DE_FEMICIDIO_EN_CHILE) --201.239.31.118 (talk) 05:09, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2021
The German serial killer Niels Högel needs to be added to the most prolific serial killer list he has a confirmed total of 85 but is suspected of up to 300 victims. 166.181.85.68 (talk) 23:37, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2021
Harvey Louis Carrigan- United States Convicted serial killer born in North Dakota, convicted of 3 murders in Minnesota, sentenced to hang for a murder in Alaska (overturned on appeal and released), tied to murders in Washington state, suspected that he murdered more then 20 people across the country (see book by Ann Rule -The Want Add Killer) Known as Harvey the hammer because he used a hammer to beat and rape his victims, currently in Minnesota State Correctional Facility Faribault 2600:1014:B0DE:6912:7118:B04D:CB81:BC90 (talk) 11:53, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
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 * ✅ Turns out he has an article. Added. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2021
Brendon Tarrant from NZ killed 51 people in the Christchurch mosque attacks Dragonknight816 (talk) 07:05, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: That is a spree killing, not serial killing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:06, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2021
Under list of Serial Killer Couples you have not included Canada's Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka, the Barbie and Ken murderers. 2607:FEA8:80A0:4B00:9DFE:35D0:2318:FCE9 (talk) 19:01, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2021
Change the list from categories to high from low. Phead3419 (talk) 14:25, 23 October 2021 (UTC)


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Smiley Face Killers are probably not real
Most people who talk about the Smiley Face Killers only do so because they imagine it as this gigantic criminal underworld that has killed hundreds of privileged white men, when most sources and crime analysts see it as a series of coincidences of drunken men committing accidental suicides, that just so happen to occur nearby an extremely common graffitti. It just feels disingenuous to have the SFK on here. Mebigrouxboy (talk) 22:15, 24 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree, although I'm phone editing right now and trying to edit the page source freezes my browser, so I can't remove it right now. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:47, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Also agree. Removed. --Jack Frost (talk) 02:03, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2021
To change some facts 2600:1702:2C18:2090:D511:9F29:16EE:FD1C (talk) 18:53, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Atlanta killings (1979-1981)
Wayne Williams killed 28 children from 1979 to 1981 but I couldn’t find him within the 15-30 serial killings list so if you could add it that would help 86.27.123.81 (talk) 23:19, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2021
I believe Ted Bundy only Admitted he killed 30 people. Not 35! 84.243.248.162 (talk) 19:06, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2021
The most prolific serial killer in modern Slovak history, active in Munich, Amsterdam and Bratislava (then Czechoslovakia). His usual modus operandi involved breaking into apartments of solitary women, clubbing them to death, stealing valuables and having sexual intercourse with their corpses. Serving life sentence since 1994. 84.245.121.31 (talk) 18:43, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
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 * WP is not WP:RS. The subject in question is Ondrej Rigo. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:25, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 December 2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Shipman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Moore_(serial_killer) 74.5.137.215 (talk) 16:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Shipman is already listed. Moore could be added. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:10, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Terminology
The lists here are lists of persons *convicted* of multiple murders. I study statistical issues in investigating and prosecuting alleged Health Care Serial Killers. There are several academic papers listing known cases and studying the characteristics of the convicted persons. This leads to something called "red flag" lists which are prepared by, and intended for use by, criminologists, health care administrators, forensic psychologists, profilers. What is perhaps not recognised is that many of the cases collected by researchers from criminology and forensic psychology are disputed or disputable. (Of course, they will miss the ones who get away with it). In fact, from time to time the lists get revised and "red flags" inspired, for instance, by the Dutch case of Lucia de Berk, get removed from the newer lists. Also, a proviso gets added that the red flag of "high death rate on their shifts" is rather unreliable. OK, that's good. People have learnt about spurious correlations and about confounding factors.

I think these red flag lists tell us what characteristics get someone *convicted* of being a serial killer. For instance, if you are a nurse and your fellow nurses gossip about you, and think you are a bit sinister person, and if you have just any history of psychiatric problems, judges and juries will be more easily convinced that you are a cold-blooded killer, even if there is almost no hard evidence again you.

In the health care context, things are really difficult. The problem is that health care workers work in places where lots of people die "normally", ie, in the normal run of things. If a case is brought to trial, the court has to identify whether or not any murders took place, and only secondarily who is responsible for them, if there were any murders. It seems clear that the chance that any particular nurse you meet is a serial killer nurse is less than 1 in a million, see http://longtermcareinquiry.ca/wp-content/uploads/Exhibit-163 Expert-Report-of-Professor-Beatrice-Crofts-Yorker.pdf This means that evidence of ill-doing, and moreover, ill-doing by a particular person, needs to be very strong in order to overcome the prior odds of innocence. A second problem is that all information has to come from the hospital and from medical workers in the hospital. Such people are not forensic scientists. Their primary duty is to protect their patients and a secondary duty is to protect the reputation of their institution (in order to retain the confidence of their patients...). They are the ones who call in the police after having made their own internal investigations, and they have a high degree of control over information going to police investigators and to the courts. Of course, they consist of well-intentioned people doing the best they can in the context they find themselves.

I think it is important to make it very clear that the *legal* category "serial killers" is not the same as the "moral" category "serial killers". This is obviously a problem for Wikipedia since "truth" is not a recognised criterium. The criterium "reliable sources" is objective, but it is a bureaucratic / legal criterium. Richard Gill (talk) 08:56, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Please update Donald Henry Gaskins.
Update his nickname to include Pee Wee. Pee Wee was serving a life sentence when he was hired to kill a man waiting to go to trial for murder. Pee Wee was sentenced to death for the murder and was was the first white man in South Carolina to be sentenced to death for killing a black man. 98.21.6.39 (talk) 02:48, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Add Israel Keyes
Israel Keyes has three confirmed victims and possibly killed eleven or more. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Keyes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.68.17.142 (talk) 22:51, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Please update note section on Joseph James DeAngelo
In 2021 Joseph James DeAngelo received multiple consecutive life sentences without the possibility of parole. He is a DNA match and has confessed. Hence he is no longer the "top suspect" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.68.17.142 (talk) 23:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Morin - Stephen Morin. Found guilty of four murders but suspected in 40+. Should be on one of these lists. 136.34.221.231 (talk) 00:00, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Added to list. However, I couldn't find a source for the claim that he was found guilty of four murders; unless I'm misreading, contemporary reporting says that he was found guilty of three murders. Also couldn't find a source for the 40+ number, so I placed the possible victims at 30 per a Guardian article. Alduin2000 (talk) 23:24, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Boris johnson?
150,000 deaths. He's not responsible for all of them. A lot we're inevitable no matter who was in power. I'd say 10 to 20 thousands 82.36.40.128 (talk) 17:20, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You think Matt Hancock and the rest of the cabinet bear no responsibility at all? You make Johnson sound like a deranged megalomaniac. I'll have you know he was personally ambushed by a cake. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:25, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2022
Pedro Rodrigues Filho killed his father after his father killed his mother the part not stated in the article is that his father killed his mother

TeroLife (talk) 03:44, 6 February 2022 (UTC)


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Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2022
change the flag in the category „serial killers with 15 to 30 victims“. killer „karl denke“ 2A02:810A:F40:12B8:2973:8284:FD86:426 (talk) 01:54, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2022
You need to change Luis garavitos victim count to 193 instead of 138 2600:6C64:687F:E72A:45C:FF15:D95C:C626 (talk) 04:19, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2022
The person with the most kills is John Willam he killed over 180 people are a concert in 1945 he was later sentenced the lethal injection in 1947 he also killed his father and mother. He had 4 children and he killed his wife for cheating on him he was caught at a bar when he killed an officer in the building. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8000:1C00:B82B:8062:94BE:C84F:C5C9 (talk) 20:26, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Addition of a new name.
Technically, the world’s second greatest serial killer is Jose William Aranguren a.k.a Desquiet who claimed 115 victims. 45.119.138.62 (talk) 12:40, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2022
Shouldn't drug cartels be included in the "groups" section? Since Murder Inc. is? 2600:1004:B16A:9A05:8871:FF30:5987:21BF (talk) 05:40, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2022 (2)
Mario Iglesias-Villegas, aka “Dos,” “El 2,” “Delta,” “Parka,” “Grim Reaper,” 37, of Villa Ahumada, became a member of the Sinaloa Cartel under Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman-Loera in early 2008. Iglesias was the head of a group of Sinaloa Cartel sicarios (assassins) until his arrest in 2012. He was a significant participant in the death of thousands of people in Ciudad Juarez from 2008 to 2011.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdtx/pr/assassin-mexican-cartel-sentenced-life-prison Jonenothums (talk) 06:12, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Raya and Sakina
Egyptian serial killers killed 17 women and buried them under the floor of their houses 37.43.126.19 (talk) 15:44, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Add Phillip Onyancha to the list
He was found guilty of killing 19 people, further claiming the devil told him to kill 100 women - 'Reformed' serial killer Onyancha https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-07-08-suspected-serial-killer-onyancha-acquitted-in-murder-case/ Gitahi109 (talk) 11:47, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The source says he was acquitted? The most the article says is that he'a a "suspected serial killer" we can't include him here based solely on that. Searching online, it looks like he has been charged but not found guilty of anything yet. - Aoidh (talk) 20:16, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Add Niels Högel
Niels Högel killed 85+ people between 2000 and 2005 while being a nurse in two hospitals in germany. (in 2019 he was convicted of murdering 85 patients https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48539894 or in german https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/niels-hoegel-patientenmoerder-zu-lebenslanger-haft-verurteilt-a-1271119.html) He could have killed over 300 people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_H%C3%B6gel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:D4:AF18:F300:51C5:21E:A792:8388 (talk) 21:35, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Order
In what order are the killers that have the same amount of victims in? They're not alphabetical, nor are they chronologically. Nor are they alphabetically by country. Aquatic Ambiance (talk) 17:54, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * TBH this page is a hodgepodge of additions from IP editors and later editing/fixes by well meaning editors like you and I. I have been watching this page for years and its a constant battle to keep the wolves at bay. That being said, my suggestion is alphabetical by last name. Ckruschke (talk) 18:53, 28 July 2022 (UTC)Ckruschke

Gary Ridgway
I just watched the Green River Killer episode on Oxygen and it shows that he killed and was convicted for 49 deaths. Why is he not on this list? Maybe I am missing something? 2600:1700:7890:60C0:8026:DE7D:985B:1B24 (talk) 02:06, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Look better. Aquatic Ambiance (talk) 09:28, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Limit the page to serial killers with at least 5 kills
Seeing that this page is getting to be quite long, maybe it's an idea to limit the amount to serial killers with at least 5 kills? Aquatic Ambiance (talk) 18:22, 7 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Based on the definition of the term serial killer the limit of 3 murders makes sense. PediaViking (talk) 11:59, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Gerard John Schaefer should be added to this list
He is on your list of United States serial killers, but that list conflates "proven" kills with the number of kills for which he was indicted and sentenced. He was sentenced for two murders, with 2 life sentences, I believe. His other murders had not yet come to light. For what ever reason (economic efficiency?) The wheels weren't really turning for further indictments till shortly before he was killed by a fellow inmate nearly two decades later, in '94. Also, according to an article at miamighostchronicles.com, two murders from '66 were taken off cold-case status in 2007 and attributed to him. I would suggest that he very easily could have been found guilty in court of several more murders, and if you read the main Wiki article on him, you will understand why. I don't normally read about this stuff, but after recently stumbling across a place called Oak Hammock Park on one of my bike rides, and enjoying the hiking trails there, I took a closer look at it on Google maps, and a 'pin' marking something called "the Devil Tree" appeared. (That's what sent me down this rabbit hole.) Turns out, this tree was the very location where this monster took the lives of Collette Goodenough and Barbara Wilcox, (both from Iowa), in '73. He buried them nearby. Their personal effects, including a driver's license and a passport, were among the items found in Schaefer's steamer trunk that same year. Their remains were discovered partially exposed 4 years later by a hog hunter. It was still a wild area then, but now it's a park surrounded by a sprawling neighborhood and on the edge of canal c-24. And so you see that the "proven" column is a bit vague and open to interpretation. It might improve the listing format to replace this with 2 columns: "murder indictments" and "murders not brought to trial though very strongly supported by evidence". If a third category doesn't make it all just too cumbersome, it could be the one for "other murders deemed possible, but arguable" 2601:589:8401:3D40:3487:E9EB:AD95:7299 (talk) 00:51, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

abul djabar
abul djabar was an afghani serial killer and rapist who has a confirmed kill count of 65 but suspected in over 300 TheRay21 (talk) 14:44, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Doesn't have an English Wikipedia page (yet). Aquatic Ambiance (talk) 15:57, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Add Joanna Dennehy
Convicted of the murders of 3 men over a 10 day period in 2013. Dennehy is one of only two women currently serving a whole life term in the UK, the other being Rose West. 92.16.74.177 (talk) 17:48, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You are free to add them yourself. Aquatic Ambiance (talk) 18:04, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

correction
Mohammed Bijeh was sentenced for 46 murders of 44 boys. Please correct the inside of the page Jahangir Almasi (talk) 21:52, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Done. Aquatic Ambiance (talk) 07:38, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

additional request
Abul Djabar(Afghanistan)… Killed 65people. Hélio José Muniz Filho(Brazil)…65People. Lin LaiFu【林来福】(Taiwan)…killed 27people. Li Zhiyong【李枝永】(China)…killed 25people. Ioan Sârca (Rumania)…killed 20people. Kim Dae-doo(South Korea)…killed 17people. Shiraishi Takahiro(Japan)…killed 9 people. 121.93.172.131 (talk) 14:05, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You are free to add them yourself. Aquatic Ambiance (talk) 14:48, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 September 2022
Please remove the Hu Wanlin entry from this article as a gross violation of WP:BLP, he is a living person who has never been convicted of a single murder, never mind the 146 "Proven victims" this article claims. 81.96.130.162 (talk) 10:22, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ❌ they are in the disputed section. However, I have moved the number of "Proven victims" to the "Possible victims" column. Polyamorph (talk) 11:39, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Biographies of Living Persons Noticeboard
There’s a discussion at BLPN here.&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Grammar Mistakes
Under Tsutomu Miyazaki, it should say "He was active in Tokyo..." rather than "He active in Tokyo..."

Under Carroll Cole, there should be an "and" between the second and third states listed. Kleptotoid (talk) 15:03, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Robert Pickton
Robert Pickton had 49 victims. He claimed many more. There is speculation he overlapped with Gary Ridgeway. 76.11.109.225 (talk) 23:48, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2022
jaquaviontavious the 3rd killed 900,000 people with a dildo in a span of 312 years 2601:283:4000:1410:29F1:D38E:E30F:37F3 (talk) 22:02, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2022 (2)
Robert Pickton - British Columbia Canada, 49 victims. Claimed many more, may overlap with Gary Ridgeway. 76.11.109.225 (talk) 23:46, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
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Placement Query
Why are Andrés Ulises Castillo Villarreal and Elfriede Blauensteiner placed under the topic of medical and pseudo-medical murderers?

I investigated the sources and Wikipedia pages for both of those people, but nothing seems to indicate that their murders involved medical or pseudo-medical circumstances. Kleptotoid (talk) 20:56, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2022
Altemio Sanchez should be added to the list of individuals who have killed less than 5 people. He has killed 3. MantaRayy (talk) 02:58, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  13:15, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altemio_Sanchez

“Altemio C. Sanchez (born January 19, 1958) is a Puerto Rican serial killer who is known to have raped and murdered at least three women,[1] and raped at least 9 to 15 girls and women in and around Buffalo, New York, during a 31-year span from 1975, though perhaps earlier, to 2006.[2][3] Sanchez is also known by the monikers Bike Path Rapist and Bike Path Killer.[4]” MantaRayy (talk) 14:49, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Incorrect dates for DeAngelo
Next to Joeseph Deangelo's name it says his span of murders was 1979 to 1986. This is incorrect. As stated in his arrest warrant, DeAngelo committed his first murder, that of Claud Snelling, in 1975, a further attempted murder of a police office later in 1975, and the double murder of Brian and Katie Maggorie in February 1978. Its foolish to make such a large list not editable, there's obviously going to be many mistake that Wikipedia won't let be fixed. Dtjprice88 (talk) 02:28, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Clementine Barnabet number of proven victims should be dropped from 35 to 1
Clementine Barnabet is listed in this article as having 35 proven victims, but her main article details it as 1-35 and says all but one of those were based on a confession that wasn't taken seriously by analysts or even the authorities, since she was released after a few years. 5.151.172.162 (talk) 20:03, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

True! The whole list is riddled with factual errors. Dtjprice88 (talk) 02:28, 22 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The fifth column is also basically useless, since the "number of possible victims killer could have murdered" is just the largest number claimed by anyone without evidence. Somehow Gary Ridgeway having been convicted of 49, suspected of 90 and having 71 confessed has been calculated as a possible victim count of "71-90+". The notation used doesn't even seem sure if it wants to start or end the interval at 90 because its arbitrary. 5.151.172.162 (talk) 23:26, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2022
Gabuun (talk) 23:27, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

"Christopher Lee Watts (born May 16, 1985)[1] murdered his pregnant wife Shanann by strangulation, and their two children Bella (4) and Celeste (3) by smothering them. He buried Shanann in a shallow grave near an oil-storage facility, and dumped his children's bodies into crude oil tanks. Watts initially maintained his innocence in regard to them missing, but was arrested on August 15 after confessing in an interview with detectives to murdering Shanann. He admitted to murdering his children later."
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. This does not seem to fit the definition of a serial killer. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:30, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Charles Cullen
Charles Cullen killed 29 confirmed, possibly 100s more 2600:1700:3A63:A350:4DA8:6BB3:77E1:A9DF (talk) 21:08, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Discussion about maybe doing a merger
I’ve started a discussion at Talk:Lists of serial killers to discuss maybe merging a bunch of lists together as “List of serial killers after the 19th century”, and then later that merge target can be split up by time period if necessary. There doesn’t seem to be any need for any separate lists “by country” or “by number of victims” because a single chronological table can always be easily sorted to provide that information.&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:26, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Jeffrey dahmer
Jeffrey Dahmer has killed 17 men and boys not 16! 46.114.197.155 (talk) 17:26, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 December 2022
Add Jerry Brudos to this list 164.51.135.106 (talk) 17:17, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. In the future, please submit your edit requests in the "Change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source; they are likely to be declined otherwise. --SamX 20:26, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Richard Cottingham +5
Another five of Cottingham's victims were confirmed this week, so please change: to: and move it from the "5 to 14 victims" table into "15 to 30". Thanks. —98.113.162.165 (talk) 22:37, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Richard Cottingham
 * 🇺🇸 United States
 * 1967–1980
 * 12
 * 85–100
 * Killer operating in New York and New Jersey who often targeted prostitutes and utilized mutilation as well as dismemberment in his killings. Known as the "Torso Killer", convicted of eight murders. He made claims of victim count as up to a hundred, however, there was no evidence to support this and is considered unsubstantiated.
 * Killer operating in New York and New Jersey who often targeted prostitutes and utilized mutilation as well as dismemberment in his killings. Known as the "Torso Killer", convicted of eight murders. He made claims of victim count as up to a hundred, however, there was no evidence to support this and is considered unsubstantiated.
 * Richard Cottingham
 * 🇺🇸 United States
 * 1967–1980
 * 17
 * 85–100
 * Killer operating in New York and New Jersey who often targeted prostitutes and utilized mutilation as well as dismemberment in his killings. Known as the "Torso Killer", with 17 confirmed homicide victims including nine convictions and a further eight official confessions. He has made unsubstantiated claims of up to a hundred victims.
 * Killer operating in New York and New Jersey who often targeted prostitutes and utilized mutilation as well as dismemberment in his killings. Known as the "Torso Killer", with 17 confirmed homicide victims including nine convictions and a further eight official confessions. He has made unsubstantiated claims of up to a hundred victims.


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Can you specify which parts of the sources in the article support this? Among Us for POTUS (talk) 01:16, 7 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Sure! If you mean the referenced Long Island Press article, I just added the relevant Vronsky quote to the citation above. If you mean Wikipedia's Richard Cottingham article, the lead sentence's citation [1] is this same L.I.P. reference – and I just added a summary table detailing the 17 killings, all of which have inline citations to published sources within the "Murders" and/or "Convictions and confessions" sections of the article text. Hope this helps. —98.113.162.165 (talk) 14:33, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll look into that soon. I'm busy with other things right now though, so I'll get back to this in a bit. Among Us for POTUS (talk) 16:43, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks.
 * In the meantime, I hope your comments won't deter other registered editors from making this update if you've gotten too busy to follow through since last week. The update is pretty straightforward, and now the article's sourcing is clear and strong. —98.113.162.165 (talk) 05:32, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ --SamX 20:36, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much. —98.113.162.165 (talk) 03:26, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Ershad Sikder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ershad_Sikder

He killed more than 60+ people, he should be in this list. Musfiquer (talk) 10:56, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Add Fritz Honka
Fritz Honka Carlo Emilio Graffer (talk) 00:10, 13 January 2023 (UTC)