Talk:List of state parties of the Democratic Party (United States)

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This is the beginning of an effort to declutter the main article. Capitalismojo (talk) 19:48, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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A look at the article shows that none of these apply to this article. Capitalismojo (talk) 18:23, 4 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Since there is now an AFD running about this list-article, at Articles for deletion/List of state parties of the Democratic Party (United States), which takes precedence over any discussion here, I think continued discussion should be there, not here. Unless/until the AFD is closed.  But offhand, this list-article could be improved by providing some information about each state party, not just linking to them.  Could be in tabular format.  But again, i suggest discussion at the AFD for now. -- do  ncr  am  19:35, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Infobox
Infoboxes are to assist the general reader. There is no requirement that infoboxes appear at only one page. Given that the DNC is a committee made up of reps from these state parties it is entirely appropriate to have the infobox here as well. Capitalismojo (talk) 18:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It was deleted again and I just restored it. I don't have strong feelings about it, but keeping it or not should be discussed here. -- do  ncr  am  07:54, 28 July 2016 (UTC)


 * As I noted in the soon-to-be-closed AfD, I removed the infobox as its use in this context is not compliant with MOS:INFOBOX. WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE says that "the purpose of an infobox [is] to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article". Infoboxes are supposed to highlight facts that are (or that should be) in the body an article. Except for a link to the article about the party's overseas wing, none of the information in the infobox is in the article and I can't imagine that it would be even if this list were brought to FL status. This shouldn't come as a surprise as Infobox political party was designed to be used in an article about a political party, not a list of political parties. I can't conceive of a way that this article could be brought into compliance with the Manual of Style without removing the infobox. Graham (talk) 02:09, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for explaining your reasoning, and yes I agree. Could a copy of the infobox be placed here just for reference as to its fields, which suggest possible columns for the table. I can't copy it conveniently from where I am editing. Also I am sort of appalled to see, in edit mode, that the infobox is hard-coded here...it is not a displayed live copy of an infobox at the national level article (so it does not automatically update). More reason to remove it. Thanks! -- do ncr  am  23:10, 29 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Sure thing, I've placed a copy of the infobox above. Graham (talk) 00:52, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Table
In these edits I began tabulating some info. What data columns and types of notes should be included? I started with two measures of state party strength within their state, the fractions of upper house & lower house seats held, which is available for many/most states. I entered info from corresponding state party pages through Delaware or so. Please help fill this out! -- do ncr  am  07:54, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

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