Talk:List of tallest bridges

Length of list
I do not think that this article needs to include bridges that have a vertical clearance underneath for standard ocean-going vessels. I do not see the world-wide notability in that. I think the list should stop at about 1.5 times the clearance needed for a ship to go underneath. I suggest about 75 meters (250 feet) as the stopping point for the list based on clearance underneath. - SCgatorFan (talk) 13:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Many are included just for the height of their pillars, not for their vertical clearance. Vertical clearance below 70 m is not remarkable, since bridges allowing large ships below have about 60-65 m according to international standards. --BIL (talk) 17:05, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I've removed all below 175m as the list was getting quite long and the accuracy of the list gets worse as the height get less. ShakyIsles (talk) 07:57, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

I've removed all below 200m as the list was getting quite long and the accuracy of the list gets worse as the height get less. ShakyIsles (talk) 23:53, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Tallest vs. Highest
Please note that this is a List of tallest bridges in the world. i.e. their structural height. There is a seperate List of highest bridges in the world which measures the height above the ground.ShakyIsles (talk) 18:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Title/Content of the article
Where does the new 'Hoover Dam(bypass)Bridge' rate in this list ? I do believe it is taller then the Millau Bridge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.102.79.140 (talk) 19:03, 9 January 2012 (UTC) I am thinking that this topic may warrant two lists within the article: (1) highest and (2) tallest. Because of the fame of the Millau Bridge, many readers will come to this article looking for the bridge that has the tallest piers. When the Millau Bridge opened, there was much mis-reporting by the media that this bridge was the highest in the world—completely forgetting the Royal Gorge Bridge.

So would it hurt for this article to have two short lists (say the top twenty five of each). I am of the opinion that the article should be simple and clear to the reader. Expecting them to sort and re-rank the list may be confusing to the average reader.

Lists like this should be especially simple and clear as there will be many primary/elementary students using the information. - SCgatorFan (talk) 13:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

New article duplicates half of this one
A new article has been started, List of highest bridges in the world. This duplicates the first half of this article, bridges with large clearance. I think that section should be deleted from this article. - ¢Spender1983 (talk) 23:05, 5 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Since nobody responded that this ws a bad idea, I am going to delete the section and send folks to the other article. - ¢Spender1983 (talk) 13:20, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Bloukrans Bridge
The Bloukrans Bridge bridge in South Africa is missing off this list. --Firefishy (talk) 14:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The Bloukrans Bridge doesn't register on this list. It is already on the List of highest bridges in the world. I've reverted the edit which added it here.ShakyIsles (talk) 18:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Mike O'Callaghan – Pat Tillman Memorial Bridge
The Mike O'Callaghan – Pat Tillman Memorial Bridge has a clearance of 270m. but it most certainty does not have a structural height of 270m, the base of the arch / piers are half way up the gorge. I recommend this is moved down the list from number 6. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.202.180 (talk) 18:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Tallest Bridge? Baluarte bridge (Mexico)
Isn't the newly inaugurated Baluarte bridge in Mexico the tallest bridge now with 403m?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-16434200 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mastergalen (talk • contribs) 20:06, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * No, read carefully first paragraph. Baluarte Bridge is already in this list (see 36th place), also included in List of highest bridges in the world on 2nd place. Stating Baluarte Bridge as highest or tallest is simply wrong. --Jklamo (talk) 07:14, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

There are two bridges over Bosphorus
Bosphorus Bridge is listed, however Fatih Sultan Mehmet Bridge (which is of the same height) is missing.Nkt777 (talk) 16:18, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
 * On the Fatih Sultan Mehmet Bridge page the height is only listed as 106 m. The current cutoff on this page is 150 m so it isn't included.ShakyIsles (talk) 18:50, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Other bridges
Here are some more bridges with towers higher than 175 meters in China, South Korea and Japan :

Baling River Bridge : 204.5 m The Balinghe Bridge in China – World’s Highest Bridge ✅ ShakyIsles (talk) 02:04, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Jiujiang Highway Yangtze River Bridge : 242.31 (not sure) 福银高速九江长江公路大桥项目简介✅HighestBridges (talk) 13:09, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Zhangzhou Xiamen Bridge : 227 m ✅HighestBridges (talk) 13:09, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Xupu Bridge : 217 m 徐浦大桥 on Baidu ✅ ShakyIsles (talk) 02:04, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Huangyi Yangtze River Bridge : 210 m 泸州黄舣长江大桥 ✅HighestBridges (talk) 13:09, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Zhongxian Huyu Expressway Bridge : 247.5 m 《人民日报》公告：桥梁公司两桥获国家优质工程银质奖 on china railway first group coltd ✅ ShakyIsles (talk) 06:00, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Hanjiatuo Bridge : 179 and 184 m respectively 韩家沱长江大桥：力争鲁班奖 on cnbridges ✅HighestBridges (talk) 13:09, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Bukhang Bridge : 190 m (south korea)

Tsurumi Tsubasa Bridge : 183 m ✅HighestBridges (talk) 13:09, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Anqing Yangtze River Railway Bridge : 210 m ah.anhuinews.com (biggest highspeed railway cable-stayed bridge) ✅


 * Third Jinan Yellow River Bridge : 195 m (济南黄河三桥 cnbridge.cn) ✅HighestBridges (talk) 13:07, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Meixi River Expressway Bridge : 193 m (梅溪河大桥)rbsce.com ✅ ShakyIsles (talk) 06:13, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Tieluoping Bridge : 192 m (铁罗特大桥) Enshi.cn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glabb (talk • contribs) 13:44, 1 April 2013 (UTC)  ✅HighestBridges (talk) 13:09, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

--Glabb (talk) 00:04, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * and I forgot one of the most beautiful of all cable stayed bridges :
 * Rio–Antirrio bridge : 220 m Design and Construction gefyra.gr (official website)
 * I think that all new big cable-stayed bridges over the Yangtze have towers >= 175 m (Second Fengdu, Wangdong, Second Tongling and Yongchuan Yangtze River Bridges) as some big suspension bridges (Ma'anshan, Yingwuzhou)
 * --Glabb (talk) 16:39, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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– As per other pages starting "List of the tallest ...". As per grammar example "Everest is the highest mountain in the world."  As per Ngrams for "height of the tallest,height of tallest". As perhaps is appropriate to the topic area, the list is tall. GregKaye 13:09, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
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 * List of tallest structures in Spain → List of the tallest structures in Spain
 * List of tallest structures in Sri Lanka → List of the tallest structures in Sri Lanka
 * List of tallest structures in Sweden → List of the tallest structures in Sweden
 * List of tallest structures in Switzerland → List of the tallest structures in Switzerland
 * List of tallest structures in the Commonwealth of Nations → List of the tallest structures in the Commonwealth of Nations
 * List of tallest structures in the Czech Republic → List of the tallest structures in the Czech Republic
 * List of tallest structures in the former Soviet Union → List of the tallest structures in the former Soviet Union
 * List of tallest structures in the Middle East → List of the tallest structures in the Middle East
 * List of tallest structures in the Netherlands → List of the tallest structures in the Netherlands
 * List of tallest structures in the United Kingdom → List of the tallest structures in the United Kingdom
 * List of tallest structures in the United States → List of the tallest structures in the United States
 * List of tallest structures in the United States by height → List of the tallest structures in the United States by height
 * List of tallest structures in the world → List of the tallest structures in the world
 * List of tallest structures in the world by country → List of the tallest structures in the world by country
 * List of tallest structures in Tokyo → List of the tallest structures in Tokyo
 * List of tallest structures in Tunisia → List of the tallest structures in Tunisia
 * List of tallest structures in Turkey → List of the tallest structures in Turkey
 * List of tallest structures in Turkmenistan → List of the tallest structures in Turkmenistan
 * List of tallest structures in Yugoslavia → List of the tallest structures in Yugoslavia
 * List of tallest towers in Southwest Asia → List of the tallest towers in Southwest Asia
 * List of tallest twin buildings and structures in the world → List of the tallest twin buildings and structures in the world
 * List of tallest twin buildings in the Philippines → List of the tallest twin buildings in the Philippines


 * Oppose. As can be seen from the above list compared to the three articles that start "list of the tallest" the current way of writing it is far more common and natural. The examples you use are mostly of singular things, not plural, so irrelevant. "list of xxx" is natural and grammatically correct.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 14:48, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * As far as I can see it is only more common, for whatever reason, within Wikipedia. The Ngrams indicate that it is not common elsewhere.  GregKaye 10:59, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose because an argument could be made that WP:THE & WP:DEFINITE should apply here, since all list articles typically begin with the type of list it is (List of, Index of, etc.), followed by the article's subject; and since a definite article is not integral to the subject of "tallest buildings or structures" (or similar), it should therefore be left out. Also, consistency is an important WP:NAMINGCRITERIA, and if you look at the list of superlatives it actually seems like most titles lack a definite article, including the overwhelming majority of articles dealing with "tallest buildings." Are you going to suggest that we should also rename all categories? / Gavleson (talk) 16:23, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Gavleson How does the argument of WP:THE apply to the middle of a section of writing. In a world where people point the finger at Wikipedia for inaccuracy, we then present titles that even fail on some basic issues of English grammar.  There is consistency and we retain the wording List and tallest.  However we also make use of correct grammar.
 * The other way we could do things would be to present a consistent "List of X by height" presentation. Failing that can we please have titles that get their grammar right.  GregKaye 22:40, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * But we're not discussing a "section of writing" here -- we're discussing titles (e.g. Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is a fine title). You claim these titles are grammatically incorrect, but I believe it's perfectly fine to omit the article altogether for indefinite plural nouns (example 1, 2, 3, 4, 5). The example you gave was a singular, identifiable entity. As for why WP:THE & WP:DEFINITE may apply: Again, list articles typically start with the words "list of" -- i.e. it could be argued those words are part of the beginning or at the start of list articles -- and a definite article "not integral to the subject" (the subject being a superlative+plural noun, like "tallest buildings") should therefore be left out.


 * Furthermore, these titles have been stable for a long time. For example, the list of tallest buildings in the United States have been titled as such since 2006, and renaming them would lead to the renaming of hundreds of other stable articles and categories. Titles should not be changed unless there's a good reason for it, per WP:TITLECHANGES. / Gavleson (talk) 12:37, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The same category as contains Adventures of Huckleberry Finn also contains Music on the Bamboo Radio not Music on Bamboo Radio, Heart of the World (novel) not Heart of World (novel) and Journey to the End of the Whale not Journey to End of Whale. These would not be fine titles.  We have no reason to present grammatically incorrect content.  I think that an avoidance of a basic grammatical mistake is a good reason to move the articles.
 * Please, most of the news examples that you give are not in the "List of x in y" format. In any case, we are not writing news headlines but titles for an encyclopedia.  Please see results in books for:
 * (most OR least OR lightest OR heaviest OR tallest OR longest OR shortest) AND "in the".
 * As far as I can see, titles with a "..st x in the y" content are all presented in a "The ..st x in the y" format. GregKaye 11:17, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I mentioned Adventures of Huckleberry Finn as an example of a famous literary work and title, where the author decided to omit the article in front of a plural noun. The examples you cite are other works, where the author have included the definite article, because it makes sense to do so (for whatever reason, it may be a stylistic choice, or because the zero article doesn't make sense, like in front of an identifiable entity). Of course we should NOT change the title of a work or publication, per WP:THE. I have never claimed that we should do that! It was used as an example, contradicting your claim that the zero article is grammatically incorrect. (For the record, I have also never claimed that it's incorrect to include a definite article.)
 * And why are the examples that I gave not valid? The all contain the phrase "list of", followed by the zero article (missing "the"), plus a superlative (e.g. "tallest") and a noun or plural noun (e.g. "buildings") -- like all of the titles you want to change:
 * • Trump inches up list of tallest buildings - Chicago Tribune

• List of worst shops for chicken bug is kept private - The Times

• Census: Florida City Tops List of Fastest-Growing Areas - The New York Times

• European jury announces list of best consumer electronic products for 2010-2011 - The Independent

• National Journal: McCain Tops List of Most Conservative Senators - The New York Times
 * Titles in an encyclopaedia are subject to stylistic choices, just as much as titles in a newspaper. That's why both The New York Times and Wikipedia have style guides, and why we have guidelines such as WP:THE, after all. / Gavleson (talk) 16:28, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Gavleson The articles that I have proposed to be moved are all in the "List of x in y" format while "most of the news examples that you give are not in the (most OR least OR lightest OR heaviest OR tallest OR longest OR shortest) AND "in the". format." The closest of your examples to this is "European jury announces list of best consumer electronic products for 2010-2011"
 * I proposed the use of a books search :(most OR least OR lightest OR heaviest OR tallest OR longest OR shortest) AND "in the" which gives the results (as they contain a "fooest" followed by something like an "in bar" type content).  These results in sequence are:
 * • The Most Beautiful Girl in the World

• The Most Misused Verses in the Bible

• The Most Important Fish in the Sea

• The Most Dangerous Area in the World

• The 100 Most Significant Events in American Business

• The Most Wonderful Doll in the World

• The Most Dangerous Man In The World

• The Most Important Little Boy in the World

• Vesuvius: The most famous volcano in the world

• The tallest, shortest, longest, greenest, brownest animal in the jungle!

• The Most Successful Small Business in The World

• Burj Khalifa: The Tallest Tower in the World

• The Least Examined Branch: The Role of Legislatures in the Constitutional State

• A short synopsis of the most essential points in Hawaiian grammar

• A brief summary, in plain language, of the most important laws of England concerning women

• Catalonia: An Emerging Economy : the Most Cost-effective Ports in the Mediterranean Sea

• The Politics of the Governed: Reflections on Popular Politics in Most of the World

• The Most Powerful Idea in the World: A Story of Steam,..

• Notices of the Most Remarkable Fires in Edinburgh

• Most Beautiful House in the World
 * I went through 18 examples (not including the "in Most of the World" example) that consistently used "the fooest" before finding one example, which happened to be at the beginning of the phrasing, which omitted the article. GregKaye 10:31, 25 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Support, seems a logical series of moves for readability and word flow. Randy Kryn 22:56, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose it seems to me more correct and natural the way it is now. --Ita140188 (talk) 01:48, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you cite any guideline on grammar that shows this to be more correct?
 * I personally think that a use of good grammar is one of the more neglected issues of Wikipedia editing.  GregKaye 10:59, 24 April 2015 (UTC)


 * An alternate and still grammatically correct way of presenting the topic might be to use a "List of buildings and structures in X by height"
 * This would follow the example of Lists of organisms by population and many other "List of x by y" type articles in Wikipedia. I think that there would be great value in getting our grammar right.  GregKaye 10:59, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The problem with 'List of buildings and structures in X by height' is it implies it lists all buildings. While 'List of tallest buildings and structures in X' explicitly states it is a list of tallest buildings, so the top 100 (or whatever). The 'by height' is implicit as a list of the 100 tallest should rank them by height. Again, there is nothing wrong with the way the titles are now. It is grammatical, unambiguous, and given the preponderance of such titles over ones starting "list of the tallest" it is clear the majority of editors working on such articles find it so.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 11:44, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * JohnBlackburne I certainly agree that an implication may be taken that way but perhaps to a lesser extent the same thing applies to articles such as List of islands by area.
 * Another option for generating grammatical sense would involve a removal of "List of" so as to leave titles such as Tallest bridges in the world. While I am not recommending this option, it would be consistent with a format presented by Largest cities in Asia.  GregKaye 16:42, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I still don't see where the problem is. There is nothing wrong with the titles above grammatically. If there were do you think so many would have been created and existed for so long. Again, your examples seem largely concerned with singular instances and carry little weight. The evidence of existing usage here is far more persuasive.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 17:00, 24 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose - The proposed changes are based on semantics which, if applied conversely, would demand that all articles sans definite/indefinite article should be changed to conform to inclusion or non-inclusion of English language grammatical principles across the entirety of Wikipedia. The proposal is trivial and disruptive at best. Would this, then, demand an editor energy sinkhole into proposals to remove the definite/indefinite articles in all lists as being redundant in the future? Regulars have more important issues to stay on top of. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:42, 25 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose. This is a solution looking for a problem.  There is nothing ungrammatical about the ellipses of title-style syntax being used for article titles (and it's more of a style than a grammar issue), and as User:Iryna Harpy notes above, such a mass proposal is borderline disruptive.  —  AjaxSmack  03:09, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * In all honesty, how ludicrous would it be if the RM were rejected here, but accepted for List of most common surnames in Asia. As I've noted at the RM on that talk page, grammatical issues impacting on numerous lists and articles right across Wikipedia should be addressed via an RfC. Either we apply consistent nomenclature across the board and decide that it's really worth the effort of asking numerous regulars to comb through all articles, wikilinks, etc. (this is a taskforce effort!), or we acknowledge that it's okay for as a wishlist addition, but too trivial to pursue. This isn't an issue for local preferences, but one for the entire community. Is it really so important that hundreds of volunteer hours be dedicated to applying 'definite article' article changes? --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:03, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Iryna Harpy No one is asking anyone to comb. Currently both presentations, with or without grammatical use of the definite article, are used.  We do not currently have consistency.  Why should Wikipedia not follow the same grammatical conventions followed by, for instance, books.  GregKaye 09:48, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

I've already addressed the crux of my argument as regards why I perceive this to be potentially disruptive. I'm not concerned about the correctness of two instances of the use of the definite article for lists. What does concern me is that, within the context of the entire scope of the Wikipedia project, it is encouraging potentially disruptive editing as others decide to match up the formatting on literally thousands of articles pointing to this RM as justification.

Let's take an cursory peek at how many articles do not conform via a quick search of Wikipedia: I haven't bothered to pull up anything that could possibly be understood to be representative of being the tip of the iceberg, nor does it even begin to represent the extent of "List of" convolutions which should be applied if we were to be serious about addressing the inconsistencies, and am merely trying to demonstrate the sheer scale of changes to be made. Again, in theory it's fine to apply grammatically correct practices; in reality such lipservice is futile and disruptive. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:43, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * List of most-produced rotorcraft;
 * List of most massive known stars;
 * List of most valuable crops and livestock products;
 * List of most commonly challenged books in the United States;
 * List of Most Wanted Nazi War Criminals according to the Simon Wiesenthal Center;
 * List of most expensive Indian artists;
 * List of smallest cities in the United Kingdom;
 * List of smallest fish in the world;
 * List of least voluminous stars;
 * List of largest Indian reservations in the United States;
 * List of shortest players in National Basketball Association history;
 * List of shortest-reigning monarchs;
 * List of longest-ruling non-royal national leaders since 1900;
 * List of longest rivers of Romania;
 * List of longest-reigning emperors in China.
 * Iryna Harpy I would consider that arguably the following articles should be moved.


 * List of most commonly challenged books in the United States;
 * List of smallest cities in the United Kingdom;
 * List of smallest fish in the world;
 * List of largest Indian reservations in the United States;
 * List of shortest players in National Basketball Association history;
 * List of longest-reigning emperors in China.
 * I think that you are interpreting a difference in views and priorities as disruption and would ask you to AGF. I am not sure of the mechanics of categories but I from what I have seen the system still manages to keep things in order when changes like those proposed are made.  I would also like to ask you to please argue the argument and not the person.  GregKaye 00:59, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Could you please point out exactly where I have commented on you, the contributor, rather than the content and the broader ramifications of content issues? --Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:36, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Iryna Harpy Despite significant checking before and during the current RMs I have seen no evidence of the type of title formatting "x of xest x in x" being used anywhere. As far as the specific format mentioned I have not even seen this in news.  Regardless of 's presentation of "title-style syntax" WP:Wikipedia is not a newspaper.  We are an encyclopedia.  While I can see a potential validity, at a stretch, with titles such as List of most-produced rotorcraft I personally see no linguistic justification for having a title presentation other than List of the smallest cities in the United Kingdom.  Your "Oppose The proposed changes are based on semantics ..." in, another context, could have read "Support The proposed changes are based on semantics ...".  As mentioned elsewhere students would be downgraded for presentation of the mentioned contents that we it seems habitually present.  Why would this "demand that all articles sans definite/indefinite article should be changed to conform"?  From my perspective, why can't we at least get some content right?  Disruptive on what grounds?  As far as I can tell there would be a net benefit for readers.  Who exactly are we building this encyclopedia for?  From my point of view I do not see the point of covering up a form of error by the ensuring of its consistent application.  At least part of our content would be presented as presenting, as I see it, without this very basic grammatical mistake.
 * You say that you "see this as being an RfC matter" yet I see less openness to debate and more dismissal for interpreted triviality.
 * When AjaxSmack asserts that "There is nothing ungrammatical about the ellipses of title-style syntax being used for article titles" when sources such as Britannica do not do this I say yes there is. Of course it is ungrammatical.  We work with the English language and in this context the only question relates to whether or not it is justifiably ungrammatical.  Within this, as I see it, context of dismissal and piped misrepresentation of argument I feel justified in presenting counter arguments.  I do not see any reason why the implication should be left that I have acted in any way disruptively.  I honestly thought this was a no brainer and that this was an appropriate route to open up constructive debate.  Instead of taking the issue to some policy based page I saw this as a route that would draw in contribution from the relevant people who work with the articles.
 * I have tried to be constructive. In reply to  I presented "Another option for generating grammatical sense would involve a removal of "List of" so as to leave titles such as Tallest bridges in the world."  For my troubles I have had a fairly damning entry placed at AN/I.  Rightly or wrongly I have opened consensus discussion via RM.  Please, if editors have legitimate points to present then present them.  GregKaye 06:04, 26 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Unnecessary (and due to number of "affected" articles disruptive as well). --Jklamo (talk) 15:10, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose These are headlines, not running prose. The expectations are different, and the entire discussion of proper grammar in text is therefore irrelevant. They read better the way they are, and even a slight saving in the length of long titles is helpful.  DGG ( talk ) 00:33, 28 April 2015 (UTC)


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Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:03, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Expressway/motorway distinction? And what about "road"?
The terms "expressway" and "motorway" are both used to describe road bridges, despite the lack of a clear distinction. Now, there is a difference between a controlled-access highway and a general road on the surface, but bridges, pretty much by definition, don't have access along their length. So even that distinction seems pretty irrelevant for the bridge proper. Do any of these distinctions make sense, or should the article normalize on one term? 71.41.210.146 (talk) 20:41, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

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If we're including longest span why not also deck height? Aside from making the difference in deck and structure heights more clear, it would allow a quick comparison of the lists by sorting the relevant column. List of highest bridges also lacks the data of the counterpart list. I think this is a needless omission - there is plenty of space for the list to have another (quite useful) column. —DIY Editor (talk) 07:14, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
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