Talk:List of television spin-offs

Is Doctor Who a spin-off of Doctor Who?
Isn't the 2005 revival of Doctor Who basically just a continuation of the show (which, officially, was only ever on hiatus, never cancelled)? It has the same protagonist and many of the same villains, and is openly part of the same continuity as the TV series and TV movie. Wouldn't it make more sense to condense the two separate entries into a single row? 202.22.242.242 (talk) 15:50, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Reboot, not spinoff Cal Fallon (talk) 19:42, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

It absolutely is not a reboot. I completely agree with the first comment here as it's very clearly a revival (it has complete continuity with the original series of the same name), which is explicitly defined by this Wiki page as falling outside the category of spin-off. End of discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.76.60.200 (talk) 11:30, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Remove tables?
I think that whoever added the tables did a wonderful job, but unfortunately it makes the article harder to read, not easier, and the tables don't really work when there are spin-offs of spin-offs, which is frequently. Should we change it back? --Mister Six (talk) 04:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Free quiz
Hi - I've created a free quiz based on the content of this page at http://www.factacular.com/subjects/Television_Spin-offs ... would it be appropriate to add a link to this on the main page? Thanks, Tom

No--TimothyJacobson (talk) 12:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

List
This is more a list than a proper article - can someone flesh out the ideas behind a spin-off - a whole episode of a show (e.g. "Kellys Kids" in The Brady Bunch is devoted to introducing characters never before shown and going into detail about them in the hope of spawning a new series.

PMelvilleAustin 19:13 Mar 24, 2003 (UTC)


 * There is more information on this in the article spin-off, which this list has a link to now. John Anderson 10:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Star Trek
I have a proposal for a small change to the listing for Star Trek spin-offs. I think that Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and Star Trek: Voyager should be considered spin-offs of Star Trek: The Next Generation rather than the original series, since they take place concurrent to TNG in the 24th century setting that it first established. DS9 even begins with a visit by the Enterprise-D. (Voyager starts out at DS9, so it could be argued that it's a spin-off of DS9 as well.) What do people think? --Arteitle 08:41, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)


 * I changed this so that DS9 appears as a spinoff of TNG, and that Voyager appears as a spinoff of DS9. However, it might be more appropriate to just call Voyager a TNG spinoff, as it was already "in planning" by the time TNG ended.  But there's still the episodic progression...    &mdash;User:Mulad (talk) 16:07, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

Ally?
Does anyone have a reference for this Ally show that supposedly spun off of Ally McBeal? I think Ally was just shorthand...? &mdash;User:Mulad (talk) 16:00, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * It was a short-lived half-hour "remix" of the hour shows that contained some new footage. tregoweth 21:33, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * See http://members.shaw.ca/almost99/allymcbealefiles208.html - it is also mentioned in one of the epuisode guide books--TimothyJacobson (talk) 12:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Andy Griffith Show/Make Room for Daddy?
Wasn't the Andy Griffith Show a spinoff of Make Room for Daddy? The family was on its way south to Florida, I believe, and broke down in Mayberry. -- Lu

By country
I find it a little confussing that the list merges series from different countries. Would it be an overkill to separate the list by country (in the same article, not to start a new article)? -- Andromeda 01:24, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Norm?
According to imdb.com, there is no show by the name of "Norm". The closest thing I can think of is "The Norm MacDonald Show", which is sometimes known as "Norm", but which is definitely NOT a spin-off of "Cheers". Is anybody else familiar with a spin-off from "Cheers" featuring the character of Norm Peterson?
 * I removed it --Caldorwards4 04:26, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Raw Toonage
How is Raw Toonage a spin off of The Little Mermaid? --Caldorwards4 23:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The Little Mermaid isn't listed...--The_stuart 01:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

JCOLE131 (talk) 06:21, 13 December 2009 (UTC)== Remakes are not spin-offs ==

A show can't be both a remake and a spin-off from an earlier show. It is either one or the other. John Anderson 10:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC) i am wondering what it is called when show A is cancelled and the charactors of that show joins show b


 * If it is a new show created around that character (Joey or Boston Legal) it's a spin-off. If it's a character joining a pre-existing show, it's just a related show (Spike moving to Angel (Although Angel is a spin-off because of Angel.) Duggy 1138 (talk) 14:13, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree remakes are not spinoffs...JCOLE131 (talk) 06:21, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Kablam is not a spinoff of All That
It has nothing to do with All That, except for maybe the theme. 67.188.172.165 00:12, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy Days
Didn't Happy Days lead to Laverne and Shirly and Mork and Mendy? 69.1.59.67ID and jonnie loves chachieJCOLE131 (talk) 06:13, 13 December 2009 (UTC) Yes--TimothyJacobson (talk) 12:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

PTI
How is Around the Horn a spin-off of PTI? I was under the impression that the show was created to have a block of shows related to sports debating. And, Tony Reali joined the show long after it had already started. --myselfalso 06:41, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Tonight Show / David Letterman
Why is Late Night with David Letterman listed as a spinoff of The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson? --Metropolitan90 22:32, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Fiction to non-fiction spin-offs
The new series of Doctor Who has non-fiction spin-offs Totally Doctor Who (a chlidren's magazine format show) and Doctor Who Confidential (a making-of documentary series shown after each episode). Likewise, Torchwood has the Torchwood Declassified documentary series. Should they be included? --Mister Six 18:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Pop Idol remakes aren't spinoffs
Like the introduction says, remakes aren't spinoffs, so I'd argue that there's no justification for listing the million national Pop Idol versions as spinoffs. Thoughts? --Arteitle 02:24, 6 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree. They are just different versions of the same show. Entertainment shows like that hardly ever have true spin-offs. John Andersson 16:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Splitting up a long list
This list is getting huge. What do you say about splitting it up under different headlines (still the same article). I was considering something like this:


 * Fiction
 * Comedy shows
 * Drama shows
 * Scinece fiction shows
 * Children's shows


 * Facts
 * Entertainment
 * Game shows
 * News shows

What more genres should be listed as headlines? John Andersson 16:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Won't work. Doctor Who (SF) has making of (factual) spin-offs and has a Children's show spin-off.  MTM was a comedy and spun-off a drama.  How do you decide if a show is a children's show or a comedy/drama/SF show.  How about comedic SF?  SF or comedy?  Editors would be making choices, and thus breaching OR. Duggy 1138 (talk) 03:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

CSI: Windy City
Where have Jerry Bruckheimer, or any of the cast confirmed this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.181.18.138 (talk) 04:41, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Could find no reference to this. I have removed it; please add again if a refernce can be found or it is actually showing somewhere.  See criteria in the beginning of the article Bigar (talk) 19:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Criteria section.
The criteria section has to go... or rather be reworked into something else. It's talking to editors and not the readers of the encyclopedia. Duggy 1138 (talk) 03:59, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Current Format.
I have a problem with the current format. There are two main problems, as I see it. Duggy 1138 (talk) 06:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The tree from the original series idea is OK, but it means that if the reader/editor is looking for a spin-off series they'll need to know what it spun-off from. This also means that doubles of some entries were made.
 * Also I think a differentiation needs to be made between follow-on series (same series renamed, revamped, etc), character spin-offs (where elements are taken and moved to a new show -> usually a character).

American Dad!?
Is this really a spin off of Family Guy? None of the characters from American Dad! ever appeared on Family Guy before it's creation. It's like saying Futurama is a spin off of Simpsons because it was made by Matt Groening. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.17.161.143 (talk) 16:13, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree. It is not a spin off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.107.184 (talk) 16:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Whoever thinks that American Dad! is a spinoff is a moron. the AD! cast didn't start in Family Guy... Like saying The Goode family is a King Of The Hill spinoff because Mike Judge was a creator, actor and executive producer for both.

Happy Tree Friends
Ka-Pow is a spin off of Happy Tree Friends, so should be added to this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.107.184 (talk) 16:47, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Green Acres/Petticoat junction
One was a spin off of the other although I am not sure which one came first. I would add it to the list but do not know how to.JCOLE131 (talk) 01:14, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Beverly Hillbillies came first. "Cousin Pearl" Bodine, Jethro's mom, was the connection. Danchall (talk) 00:24, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Petticoat Junction preceded Green Acres. Cousin Pearl from BH was not a character on Petticoat Junction. Same actress, different character. Bea played Kate Bradley in PJ. Cal Fallon (talk) 19:48, 4 October 2020 (UTC)


 * When the Hillbillies eventually visited Petticoat Junction, I think it was briefly explained that Kate Bradley was a distant relative of Cousin Pearl's (which I think the audience is supposed to assume is the reason why they look so much alike), but after that the shows never spend any time reminding us that they're all related. Nomwiki1 (talk) 00:43, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

NCIS
Where is NCIS: Los Angeles; what about the yet-to-be-aired Law & Order: Los Angeles? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.158.104 (talk) 04:49, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Archie character shows
Shows like "Sabrina the Teenage Witch" are not spin-offs of the "Archie Show." They are shows based on characters from the same comic books. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.102.170.118 (talk) 18:51, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Oprah Winfrey spinoffs
I don't feel that the Rachael Ray show should be listed as a spin-off of the Oprah Winfrey show. Dr. Phil, of course, received his own show as a result of appearances on the Oprah Winfrey show. Rachael Ray had already established her notoriety on the Food Network and was then hired by Harpo productions for a new show.

Just because a real-life person appears on a show, surely that doesn't mean that if they get their own show, because of their particular real world job/expertise, it is a spin-off? It would have to have the same title and design as a segment of the original show to qualify as a spin-off, whereas fictional characters are clearly a tansplant to a new show and by definition have spun off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.76.60.200 (talk) 11:26, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Animaniacs move under Tiny Toons
There was two episode of Tiny Toons which explored a family of Black and White characters that had been shelved as well as an episode that featured a family of 'over the top characters'. They are believed to be the inspiration/back door spin off tests for the Animaniacs.

Would this qualify moving them appropriately in the list? References include information on the TT Episode, "Elmyra's Family" as well as the TT Episode, "Two-Tone Town" Looking for comments because while the characters aren't delivered from one show to the next it is obviously a (some) developed character(s) being started on one show and then gaining its(their) own. Lordandrei (talk) 14:05, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

What a mess!
Where do I start?
 * 1) This list is almost completely devoid of references. Is there anything in here that isn't original research?
 * 2) At best, this appears to be a list of very-loosely-related TV shows. Seriously, Futurama as a spin-off of The Simpsons? Why are there two revivals of The Twilight Zone listed? Are we seriously supposed to believe that all of the international X Factor shows are "spin-offs"?
 * 3) What's with the asterisks scattered all over the place? There's no explanation of what they're supposed to represent, and I can't see an obvious pattern.

At this point, it would probably be easiest to just wipe the slate clean and start a new list with the necessary references to support each entry. That would help prevent all the nonsense that has crept in over time. --Lest69 (talk) 06:28, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

The scope of this list needs to be narrowed
Picking up from the topic above this one, this list is a mess (and definitely looks like a lot of WP:OR to me...).

Issue #1 is that the article's lede goes out of its way to note that a "revivals" and a "spinoff" are not the same thing, and then the list goes on to include revivals! (e.g. "92010", "Burke Law" (1994), etc.). Basically, any show that is listed at Revival (television) should not be listed here!

At some point this summer, I'll likely be going through this list to try to narrow the scope of the listing, and will probably attempt to source at least some of the entries... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:26, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

What are the bullets?
Some of the spinoffs in the table are marked with a bullet, but I can't find anything in the article indicating what this is supposed to signify. Unless I get an explanation, I will remove them. Andylatto (talk) 18:58, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Quite a lot of entries are not spinoffs, but either reboots, or just shows with the same actors.
Doctor Who 2009- is not a spinoff of Doctor Who 1964-1989, and not a reboot either, really, but a revival.

iCarly is in no way a spinoff of Drake And Josh. Yes, there's an actress in common, but no, she isn't playing the same character.

Nor is Zoey 101 a spinoff of All That!. Yes, again, there's an actress in common, and probably some others. But the character never appeared on All That!. That's like saying Ghostbusters is a spin off of Saturday Night Live, which it's not. (Blues Brothers is.)

Freakazoid is another case. It's not a spinoff of Animaniacs, because none of its characters appeared on that show. Yes, it has the same producer and same studio and maybe a few of the same actors, but it has no 'contextual' connection to Animaniacs. (Meanwhile, Pinky and the Brain is, because they did).

That's just a few that stand out from the sections A-C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.187.160.52 (talk) 00:38, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Other spinoffs.
Lassie" spun off from "Jeff's Collie" 1958 and "The Adventures of Champion" from "The Gene Autry Show" in 55 Cal Fallon (talk) 19:37, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * "Lassie" was not a spinoff of "Jeff's Collie" (nor vice versa). Rather, "Lassie" was the show's original title, and "Jeff's Collie" was an alternate title used for syndicated broadcasts of episodes from the first three seasons. (Until the 1980s, some shows used different titles for their syndicated broadcasts compared to their original run, especially when the show was still broadcasting new episodes but also airing old episodes in syndication. See Broadcast syndication.) --Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:00, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

The Real McCoys / The Tycoon
Is The Tycoon actually a spinoff of the show The Real McCoys? Nomwiki1 (talk) 00:32, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

[Star Fleet Academy (TV Series)|Star Fleet Academy]]
I just added the latest star trek show to the list, and it was removed. Can the editor who removed it please explain why? Thanks Deathlibrarian (talk) 10:57, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Teen Titans Go!
Isn't Teen Titans Go! a reboot of Teen Titans, not a spin-off? It contains the same cast and setting as well as not following the continuity of the original. AniKitt (talk) 09:03, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Longest Spin-Off
It seems 'The Simpsons' would be the longest spin-off - not the Law & Order one? 2601:805:8000:3550:993A:B0C9:CF5C:FE0C (talk) 07:57, 4 July 2024 (UTC)