Talk:List of top international men's association football goal scorers by country/Archive 1

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The information on this page is not accurate. Many of the top scorers are missing. http://footballsites.viptop.ru/honour/intrec2.html Someone should get accurate data and update.


 * 'This list is not an all-time top international goal scorers list...'

No, it isn't, but maybe it's an idea for another page? Ben davison 23:30, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

10 Iranian players
There are 10 pkayers from iran that are in the all time top scorers list by nation. can someone fix this as this is only the top goal SCORER not SCORERS from each nation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.159.2.32 (talk) 04:04, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

The top 10 scorers are wrong
Not only were individual details wrong (which I fixed) but the top 10 goal scorers, whose names have been tabulated are not really the top 10 goalscorers. Before the number 10 person, there was:

Hussain Saeed Mohammed [Iraq]             61 (126)  (1977-1990) Gabriel Batistuta    [Argentina]          56*( 78)  (1991-2002) Kazuyoshi Miura      [Japan]              56*( 91)  (1990-2000) Bum-Kun Cha          [South Korea]        55 (121)  (1972-1986)


 * Thank you. That's right. I fixed number ten based on RSSSF. I think the rest as well need to be updated. As it is not an all-time top international goal scorers list, we need to consider each country's top scorer only. For the other list, see List of football (soccer) players with 30 or more international goals. Siba 14:22, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Also, the Israeli player Mordechai Spiegler has only 25 official goals as ruled by FIFA, shouldn't FIFA records be seen superior to the perhaps biased information coming from the Israeli federation? Unofficial records should certainly not count in the case of a supposedly "official" list. The IFA have on the record that he's scored 32.

Hernan Crespo Argentina 32 (62) (1995- )

Mistake
Gary Lineker (48 goals in 80 games) is missing.
 * Bobby Charlton has a goal more than Linekar, hence he should not be included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.170.90.42 (talk) 17:17, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Jon Dahl Tomasson is also missing (51 goals in 101 games) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.93.63.14 (talk) 20:18, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * He is in the list now. Pelmeen10 (talk) 21:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Where is Antonin Puc, Czechoslovakia, scored 34? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.102.52.205 (talk) 22:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Now he is in the list. Pelmeen10 (talk) 21:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Is this a joke?
Where are Ronaldo and Michael Owen???--Ukdan999 00:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Read the intro. Brandon97 12:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

¿Ivan Zamorano?
69 appereances and 34 goals for Chile...

And I don't saw him there...

Take a look HERE


 * Read the intro first, then look at Marcelo Salas who is the top scorer for Chile with 35 goals. Siba 02:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

UAE flag doesn't display
There appears to be a problem Wikipedia-wide with the display of the UAE flag - I played with it in the sandbox and never got it to display correctly. Firefox displays text and exploder displays a blank white square. Does anyone know what the problem is or how to implement a fix? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moretz (talk • contribs) 18:51, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Blokhin?
What about Oleg Blokhin and Soviet national football team?-Sidik iz PTU (talk) 14:19, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * He is in the list now. Pelmeen10 (talk) 21:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Litmanen
Is there a reason for omitting Jari Litmanen from this list? He has scored 30 goals for Finland national football team. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.29.85.156 (talk) 14:26, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No, he should be still there. Pelmeen10 (talk) 21:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Nistelrooij
Tried to remove Van Nistelrooij because Kluivert is also there but I'm afraid to mess up the table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BennyMuller (talk • contribs) 01:10, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Pelmeen10 (talk) 21:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Poland
Where is Włodzimierz Lubański from Poland ? He scored 48 goals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.141.82.22 (talk) 12:14, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Corrected. Pelmeen10 (talk) 21:07, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Germany
Miroslav Klose and Gerd Müller both are wrong. Please correct that. Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.46.200 (talk) 16:42, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Corrected. Only 1 scorer for each country, so Klose is out. Pelmeen10 (talk) 21:06, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Numbering
The numbering is wrong. Somebody should fix it. Pelmeen10 (talk) 18:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Missing Eusebio
41 goals in 60 odd games for portugal. Someone should put him in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.82.219 (talk) 20:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No. Each country has 1 player on the list. Pauleta has 47 goals. Pelmeen10 (talk) 21:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Mistake
Why is Gerd Müller on Nr.3, ahead of Pele and Hassan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.199.221.158 (talk) 00:30, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Pelmeen10 (talk) 01:04, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Numbering
It goes wrong from 42. Pelmeen10 (talk) 16:19, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed. anhdroid (talk) 06:08, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Ronaldo Missing
Ronaldo scored 62 goals for Brasil in 97 games. He should be in the list, but seems to be missing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.63.248.7 (talk) 00:46, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

edit: please disregard this comment since I realise the purpose of the list now. thank you.

India
Where is Baichung Bhutia in the list.He has scored 43 goals in 107 appr. Preetam040 (talk) 09:43, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * India's top scorer isn't clear. Even Bhutia's supposed 43 in 107 doesn't seem to be accurate. Banana Fingers (talk) 10:29, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

India's Sunil Chhetri has scored 45 international goals surpassing bhatia...refer to his wikipedia page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.238.162.223 (talk) 14:40, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Olivier Karekezi
I've noticed that a few of Karekezi's goals came against Zanzibar who are not FIFA members so would these goals count towards the official total? Phatmann (talk) 12:30, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Why not? Those are from the CECAFA Cup, surely matches against them would still be official for the Rwandan FA.  It would also be like the case of Northern Marian Islands.  Guam's top scorer Zachery Pangelinan, has scored goals against them in the East Asian Championship.  The Northern Mariana Islands aren't FIFA or even AFC members but matches against them are official for the Guam FA. Banana Fingers (talk) 12:44, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Fandi Ahmad
Is there any reason not to add Fandi Ahmad (Singapore)? He has 55 goals in 101 caps according to this. Aron1024 (talk) 01:00, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Page Title
This page should be retitled List of international mens association football top goal scorer by country.

This would address the fact that it is only the top male scorer per country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.50.223.188 (talk) 14:05, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Ditto the second comment. I was mis-directed to this page looking for women's association football, because the title did not specify. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.58.161.129 (talk) 01:04, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Thirding - this title is misleading. If it's only top scorers in men's football, it should be titled as such. 140.247.231.233 (talk) 21:06, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Mexico
Why is Mexico represented twice in the current list - by Borgetti (46 goals) and Hernandez (40)? I think Hernandez should be removed from the list. --PeteH (talk) 23:22, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Ditto Brazil
And Brazil have a duplicate with Neymar at position 40 while Pele is near the top. Neymar has to go. 94.195.107.236 (talk) 06:50, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Edit war regarding list of top international association football goal scorers
Hi everyone! Recently, I've been engaged in an edit war with User:GoalsGalore regarding the counting of official caps and goals of the soccer players. The user states that, the caps & goals that aren't officially acknowledged or counted by FIFA but by the football association or federation of the respective players' country, should also be included in the list. Should those be counted as fully official statistics, though not counted as official ones by FIFA? &mdash; Swastik Chakraborty (User talk)  05:06, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * This is where you're a noob (though I won't fully fault you on it to be a little fair, it's your stubbornness to actually try and consider what your being told is your problem, in fact your logic about full internationals is doesn't even make sense) when it comes to international stats! For starters read the the following link here.  Now, if you really read that international caps are not awarded by FIFA!!  Caps are awarded on the basis on which matches are considered official by the FA's.  But yes, full FIFA matches are a good start for what to consider as official but that in itself has problems, again read the link provided!!  Now, with regards to Ashfaq, the Maldives FA considers the match against Laos in 2014 as a full international match as stated by RSSSF.  Therefore, all players that appeared for the Maldives in that match earn a cap and same thing for the scorers such as Ashfaq, the goals are counted towards their international stats.  If you still can't comprehend this then you need to lay off the stats.  In fact, to further explain this matter, you even edited the stats in the Spain national football team article and added new sources.  Those sources include a friendly against Equatorial Guinea in 2013 which isn't a full FIFA match but is official for the Spanish FA.  Hence why the players who appeared in that match have earned a cap as listed in the European Football Database source you provided! GoalsGalore (talk) 16:10, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You are making things totally complicated. RSSSF is not the one, who's gonna decide a player's tally of international caps & goals (though their sources are considered authentic), football's world body FIFA decides that. And I do think that the stats considered official by FIFA, are being taken for granted by everybody. Whatever you think as correct, others may not. So, please don't try to convince everyone about the stats that you consider to be the real one & let senior editors decide about it. And you don't have to measure my stubbornness. BTW please check your grammar. &mdash; Swastik Chakraborty (User talk)  09:32, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No I am not!!!!!!!!  It is you and your lack of knowledge that's complicating things here!!!  FIFA DOES NOT AWARD CAPS!!!!  It's the FA's!!!  RSSSF merely collates this information (and other football stats) so the public such can have access to this kind of info! It's that simple!  The fact that you are trying to disregard what an FA considers an official match and therefore which matches their players earn caps from is the problem!  As I've said and as that RSSSF source I provided you with says, FIFA recognized matches are a basis of which matches are official and therefore which matches players earn caps from.  IT IS NOT THE SOLE SOURCE OF WHICH MATCHES PLAYERS EARN CAPS FROM!!!  Just look at the what I told you about your edit on the Spain national football team page!  Oh and I didn't realize the you are part of the grammar police!  And this is coming from an Indian. lol! GoalsGalore (talk) 16:22, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, you are not worthy to be an editor! I indeed have lack of knowledge about complicating simple things. But you have! Keep it up... And as you said that FIFA DOES NOT AWARD CAPS, see this link before you further talk rubbish. &mdash; Swastik Chakraborty  (User talk)  08:07, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * OMG! You're way in over your head!!!  That century club link is NOT about FIFA AWARDING CAPS!!!!  That's just a list of players who have reached at least 100 caps as per matches recognized by FIFA!!!!  Caps are awarded by the country's FA!  That's should be basic knowledge or at least it should be for wannabe statistician!  Having said that, it's you who isn't worthy to be an editor!!  I've seen your recent edits!  You nominate a page about a list of goals for one player and then create one for Sunil Chhetri! LOL!!!!!!!!!  Talk about contradiction and arrogance!!  But back to the actual discussion..... again, read the RSSSF link I provided and also read what I said about your edit on the Spain national football team page!!  To further prove your stubbornness and lack of knowledge, you keep on italicizing Ashfaq's name to say that he's the Maldives most capped player!  You don't even know his accurate caps total yet you say he's the most capped Maldivian!  IRONY!!! GoalsGalore (talk) 13:56, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Frankly speaking, talking with you is simply wastage of valuable time! Keep up the quarrel. &mdash; Swastik Chakraborty (User talk)  17:51, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It's you that's the a complete waste of time, space and energy! The fact you can't at least try and understand what you're being told says it all!  You can't even acknowledge the fact that you have kept Ashfaq's name italicized as if he's the Maldive's most capped player yet you don't even know his accurate caps total!  That alone shows your lack of simple logic! I'm gonna reference the entire page, player by player.  You mess it or try to change it because of your wants, lack of logic, or whatever else, you're gonna be reported and potentially blocked.  End of!  GoalsGalore (talk) 12:38, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Stats for Sunil Chettri
The recent edit war is from what I can see about the stats for Indian footballer Sunil Chettri. One editor wants 50 goals in 88 caps, and the other editor 51 goals in 89 caps. But to me the source on that row indicates 48 goals and 84 caps? What is correct? Please discuss instead of edit warring. Qed237&#160;(talk) 13:39, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Continued to look at other places and could not find much but National-football-teams has 50 goals in 88 apps in FIFA matches and 51 goals in 89 matches overall, while RSSSF list has him on 51 goals in 88 matches and his individual RSSSF has 48 goals in 84 caps. Qed237&#160;(talk) 13:53, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd go with 50 goals and 88 caps, in the article List of international goals scored by Sunil Chhetri that's what the majority of the sources say. Chhetri did score one goal in an unofficial match which could be the cause of the confusion, and the subject also recently part in a u-23 tournament. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 16:48, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Looking more at it and discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football it seems like FIFA matches should be followed as the have a clear definition of what is an offical match. This could be combined with a note. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 16:49, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Aubameyang
Aubameyang has 23 goals for Gabon. Why he is not the list?95.76.18.65 (talk) 22:01, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

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Where are Ronaldinho and Maradona?
The players are not on the list when it's obvious that that Ronaldinho has scored 33 goals for Brazil and Maradona has scored 34. HUGE MISTAKE. Slug like you (talk) 10:07, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Danish Players Missing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_men%27s_footballers_with_50_or_more_international_goals lists two players tied for the Danish record with 52 goals who aren't listed. EvanJ35 (talk) 11:51, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Hossam Hassan's International Statstics
What is the actual number of official international appearances that Hossam Hassan made and the offical number of goals that he scored for Egypt between 1985 and 2006? The List of footballers with 100 or more caps page currently says 178 appearances, but his actual wiki page says 169 appearances and 69 goals, and the list of all-time goal scorers page also says he made 169 appearances (and scored 69 goals). The two FIFA sources on his page (169 appearances; 69 goals) and the RSSSF (178 appearances; 68 goals) source cited on his page appear to be giving conflicting information, and the stats table further down shows a different number altogether (176 appearances; 68 goals). Any help would be appreciated, thanks! Best, Messirulez (talk) 05:26, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism
This article should be protected from being edited by unregistered users ! Mark Mercer (talk) 22:20, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi. I'm not an admin so I can't help you directly, but could you put it at WP:RPP? Then someone can look at protecting it. Thanks for keeping an eye on this page and reverting the vandalism. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 20:38, 27 November 2017 (UTC)